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Default Re: Make no Mistake, Coronavirus is Pestilence. See Revelations. - 04-24-2020, 07:03 AM

The best book to read is The Bible. I know I have. And as you read very soon the relationship is explained.


Doubter: Why is it explained?

Correct answer: Because God loves us.

Doubter: But if He loves us why does He make plagues in the first place?

Correct answer: He doesn't. We did at the moment of disobedience when Eve was seduced by a wriggling smooth talking serpent. The Bible does not describe him as slimy but if that helps your envisioning the scene there is no reason not to have the wretch drooling slime by the bucketful.

Doubter: Are you saying humans had the ability to create things?

Correct answer: I'm not saying anything. I'm telling you what The Bible says.


Proverbs 3: 5-8 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones.

Romans 8: 28, 38-39 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose … For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.




Health to one's navel, secure from threats by death or from things to come, that's a very broad assurance. Sometimes I imagine a crocodile or a virus or a mastodon sitting there as I walk along. Were these there before Eve sinned? Yes. God didn't resume creating objects on Day 8 after a brief interlude and although The Bible could have just left that out (because it was irrelevant to the message God was sending) such a detail would directly contradict what God told us in Genesis 2:1 where The Bible explains that the earth was finished. ALL the host of birds and worms and monkeys and therefore viruses and neutrinos and anything else that may be described were completely done by the end of Day 6. Even if you think a creation day is five hundred trillion years the point remains. Everything that exists now was created then.

So what about the mastodon? Without sin there would be no chance of it walking on me (or a crocodile biting me or a virus getting stuck on my tonsils) because our paths would never cross. That assurance was interrupted by Eve and cemented in by sin communicated to us all by Adam. Proverbs refers to "paths" quite specifically and Romans expands the concept by detailing what may be sitting there on such paths waiting to pounce.


Doubter: That seems rather far-fetched.

Correct answer: No it doesn't.

Correct answer: As we saw in the last answer this makes perfect sense. Sooner or later the historical record of God's words to Moses will spell things out in even more detail.


Doubter: Maybe if you ascribe "cause" and "effect" in some predetermined way to suit whatever nonsense your promoting.

Correct answer: That's a very good introduction to God's main point concerning pestilence. The Israelites decided to get stuck into idol worship, temple orgies, weird potions and all the other accoutrements and experienced precisely the outcomes promised by God.

Doubter: Not much point being "the chosen people" then?

Correct answer: As usual the Truth is the reverse of what you say. Jesus explained that with blessing comes responsibility and that, by eschewing the responsibility angle, chosen status was being transferred. You can read this in Matthew 21:42-45 but in the meantime here's a list from God concerning cause and effect which you can verify in Deuteronomy 28:15-47.


CURSE LOCATION 1CURSE LOCATION 2
in the city
thy basket
the fruit of thy body
increase of kine
when thou comest in
cursing, vexation, and rebuke
until thou be destroyed

pestilence cleave unto thee
consumption
inflammation
with the sword
with mildew

heaven shall be brass
rain shall be powder and dust
smitten before thine enemies
carcase shall be meat unto fowls
the botch of Egypt
the scab
madness
astonishment of heart
oppressed

betroth a wife
build an house
plant a vineyard
ox slain before thine eyes
ass violently taken away
sheep given to enemies
sons & daughters given away

the fruit of thy land
a nation thou knowest not
thou shalt be oppressed
mad for thine eyes
smitten in the knees
a sore botch
the sole of thy foot

gods of wood
thou shalt be an astonishment
and a byword
carry much seed out
shalt plant vineyards
gather the grapes
plant olive trees
beget sons and daughters
all trees and fruit

the stranger will get above thee
he shall lend to thee
he shall be the head
in the field
thy store
the fruit of thy land
the flocks of thy sheep
be when thou goest out
all that thou settest thine hand unto
until thou perish quickly

consumed from off the land
fever
extreme burning
with blasting
until thou perish

the earth shall be iron
from heaven shall it come
fleeing seven ways before them
and unto the beasts of the earth
the emerods
the itch
blindness
groping at noonday
spoiled evermore

another man shall lie with her
not dwell therein
not gather the grapes thereof
not eat thereof
not restored to thee
none to rescue them
no might in thine hand

all thy labours
shall eat them up
and crushed alway
at everything they see
and in the legs
that cannot be healed
the top of thy head

gods of stone
and a proverb
among all nations
the locust shall consume it
never drink the wine
the worms shall eat them
thine olive shall cast his fruit
they shall go into captivity
shall the locust consume

thou shalt come down very low
thou shalt not lend to him
thou shalt be the tail


None of this is likely to persuade a doubter but it does show how consistent God is throughout The Old and New Testaments and particularly with the function and causes of pestilence described in the original post.
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