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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 04-28-2019, 09:20 PM

THE PHONIC METHOD

Now that we've learned how to tell one sound for another, here's a new word with 2 sounds.

fos - sil

We join them together to make a new word

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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 04-28-2019, 09:20 PM

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But... I though fossils were made to test your faith? Hm. I guess since NOW we're counting fossils as actual proof (Thank God) Dinosaurs were on Earth
Dear, science can be used as evidence only when it confirms what the Bible says. When fossils can be attributed to Great Flood (such as, the Great Permian Extinction), that's great news. When fossils are dated with potassium-argon or other ways of dating and come up with outrageously early dates, that's fake news.

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and long ago humans showed closer resemblance with monkeys based on bone structure.
You mean, like having tails? Kid, you are screwed up even more than the scientists, they talk only about ape-like, not monkey-like, early hominid ancestors of Homo sapiens sapiens!
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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 04-28-2019, 11:40 PM

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Dear, science can be used as evidence only when it confirms what the Bible says. When fossils can be attributed to Great Flood (such as, the Great Permian Extinction), that's great news. When fossils are dated with potassium-argon or other ways of dating and come up with outrageously early dates, that's fake news.

You mean, like having tails? Kid, you are screwed up even more than the scientists, they talk only about ape-like, not monkey-like, early hominid ancestors of Homo sapiens sapiens!
So, You're telling me. It's only true when it fits YOUR agenda? And yes. Tails. That's why we have a tailbone. Through possible evolution, we lost the tail due to it no longer being needed. Human biology.
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So, You're telling me. It's only true when it fits YOUR agenda? And yes. Tails. That's why we have a tailbone. Through possible evolution, we lost the tail due to it no longer being needed. Human biology.
You are still missing the point, which is, that scientists claim that early hominins were closely related to apes (these are primates without tails), not monkeys. That's why both apes and hominins are both classified as hominids.

So if you want to talk about "possible evolution" related to loosing the tail "because no longer needed" (which, by the way, shows your utter lack of understanding of the evolutionary theory you are pretending to defend), you have to talk about it in relation to the early ancestor of hominins and apes. Not as something that separates hominins from other hominids.

Geesh, why am I even trying to explain this to you?! Just abandon these stupid scientific theories - that's what they all are, just theories, not fact! (Yes, even the theory of gravity).
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You are still missing the point, which is, that scientists claim that early hominins were closely related to apes (these are primates without tails), not monkeys. That's why both apes and hominins are both classified as hominids.

So if you want to talk about "possible evolution" related to loosing the tail "because no longer needed" (which, by the way, shows your utter lack of understanding of the evolutionary theory you are pretending to defend), you have to talk about it in relation to the early ancestor of hominins and apes. Not as something that separates hominins from other hominids.

Geesh, why am I even trying to explain this to you?! Just abandon these stupid scientific theories - that's what they all are, just theories, not fact! (Yes, even the theory of gravity).
Apes and monkeys are both primates. Humans are primates. Humans and chimps are the closest when it comes to genes. Now, I did and go look into it because this stuff is interesting to learn and read about. Our tailbone, in fact, is from when we had a tail in the womb, although it disappears before we are born. https://www.seeker.com/how-humans-lo...129791485.html. I admit, I was wrong and now I know more about the topic. Turns out, chimps are the last common ancestor with apes and humans. Interesting, no? But wait, there's more! Scientists may have found another common ancestor with a fossil. https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-looked-liked/ read if you would like. Gravity is a real thing by the way. The Earth is round. Physics, math, and photos were taken. Hell, go on a hot air balloon ride. You go far up enough you can start to seen the curve! I've been on one and saw it for myself. I suggest you do the same. (I KNOW these links are going to be taken down, but ok.)
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Apes and monkeys are both primates.
So what? I was talking specifically about hominins, hominids, and apes, not about primates in general. Speaking about primates, though, tarsiers (not monkeys, not apes - primates include many more species of animals than you imagine) are my favorites:



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Turns out, chimps are the last common ancestor with apes and humans.
You are even dumber than I suspected. Find me an actual scientific source that presents such a ridiculous claim and I'll give you positive reputation points.

Hint: don't waste your time, you will not find an actual scientific source claiming that chimps are ancestors of humans and apes.

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You go far up enough you can start to seen the curve! I've been on one and saw it for myself. I suggest you do the same.
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Hell, go on a hot air balloon ride. You go far up enough you can start to seen the curve! I've been on one and saw it for myself. I suggest you do the same. (I KNOW these links are going to be taken down, but ok.)
If you saw the curvature of the earth on a hot air balloon ride you were either hallucinating or in need of supplemental oxygen. Most hot air balloon rides rarely go over 3,000 feet, and most round earth hoaxers admit you can't see the "curvature" much below 50,000 to 60,000 feet in altitude.

BTW, you're going to need supplemental oxygen above about 14,000 feet.


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So what? I was talking specifically about hominins, hominids, and apes, not about primates in general. Speaking about primates, though, tarsiers (not monkeys, not apes - primates include many more species of animals than you imagine) are my favorites:



You are even dumber than I suspected. Find me an actual scientific source that presents such a ridiculous claim and I'll give you positive reputation points.

Hint: don't waste your time, you will not find an actual scientific source claiming that chimps are ancestors of humans and apes.

You were on the curve of the Earth? What drugs were you on, sweetie?
1. I think that's a sugar glider (?), cool creatures.
2. so NOW you care about scientific sources? Well, congrats! I looked more into it, and figured out i'm wrong once again. Thanks for correcting me by the way! So, I looked more into it, They HAVE found a common ancestor: Australopithecus sediba. http://www.sci-news.com/otherscience...tor-03220.html
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/...ithecus-sediba
3. No I wasn't on the curve, It was notable from the height I was at. Same thing for planes.
Thank you for giving me the chance to educate myself!
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BTW, you're going to need supplemental oxygen above about 14,000 feet.
Well, with appropriate acclimatization (a couple of days for most people) at around 12,000 ft, and with some coca leaves to chew on, he should do OK at 14,000 ft (provided that he doesn't try to run uphill/upstairs - that truly is a physical impossibility at this altitude) without supplemental oxygen, nor even sorojchi pills. In my case, it's the 15,500 ft mark that really starts to get me with headaches and other symptoms of hypoxia, even after prolonged (a few months) stay at 12,600-13,000 ft.

Anyway, been there, done that, have a picture with a picturesque glacier (15,750 ft a.s.l.) to prove it. No Earth's curvature to be seen at that altitude, but with all the mountains around it doesn't look too flat, either!
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1. I think that's a sugar glider (?), cool creatures.
I said it was a tarsier. Because we were talking about primates, remember? Sugar gliders are marsupials, not primates. An easy way to recognize primates is by looking at the position of the eyes - primates "look" forward, while other animals have more peripheral vision. And, of course, primates have opposable thumbs.

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2. so NOW you care about scientific sources? Well, congrats! I looked more into it, and figured out i'm wrong once again. Thanks for correcting me by the way!
Yeah, so next time you don't have to embarrass yourself when you try to defend science.

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You're very welcome. The thing is, that normal people usually educate themselves prior to engaging in a discussion. Because you know, it's really worth knowing what position you defend before you start defending it. And knowing appropriate arguments rather than making stuff up as you go.
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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 04-30-2019, 04:04 PM

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I said it was a tarsier. Because we were talking about primates, remember? Sugar gliders are marsupials, not primates. An easy way to recognize primates is by looking at the position of the eyes - primates "look" forward, while other animals have more peripheral vision. And, of course, primates have opposable thumbs.

Yeah, so next time you don't have to embarrass yourself when you try to defend science.

You're very welcome. The thing is, that normal people usually educate themselves prior to engaging in a discussion. Because you know, it's really worth knowing what position you defend before you start defending it. And knowing appropriate arguments rather than making stuff up as you go.
Hmmmm, science has no fulcrum without acknowledging the Creator of All things. The fear of God is the beginning of All wisdom.


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Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding, Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it? "On what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone,read more.
When the morning stars sang together And all the sons of God shouted for joy? "Or who enclosed the sea with doors When, bursting forth, it went out from the womb; When I made a cloud its garment And thick darkness its swaddling band, And I placed boundaries on it And set a bolt and doors, And I said, 'Thus far you shall come, but no farther; And here shall your proud waves stop'? "Have you ever in your life commanded the morning, And caused the dawn to know its place, That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, And the wicked be shaken out of it? "It is changed like clay under the seal; And they stand forth like a garment. "From the wicked their light is withheld, And the uplifted arm is broken. "Have you entered into the springs of the sea Or walked in the recesses of the deep? "Have the gates of death been revealed to you, Or have you seen the gates of deep darkness? "Have you understood the expanse of the earth? Tell Me, if you know all this. "Where is the way to the dwelling of light? And darkness, where is its place, That you may take it to its territory And that you may discern the paths to its home? "You know, for you were born then, And the number of your days is great! "Have you entered the storehouses of the snow, Or have you seen the storehouses of the hail, Which I have reserved for the time of distress, For the day of war and battle? "Where is the way that the light is divided, Or the east wind scattered on the earth? "Who has cleft a channel for the flood, Or a way for the thunderbolt, To bring rain on a land without people, On a desert without a man in it, To satisfy the waste and desolate land And to make the seeds of grass to sprout? "Has the rain a father? Or who has begotten the drops of dew? "From whose womb has come the ice? And the frost of heaven, who has given it birth? "Water becomes hard like stone, And the surface of the deep is imprisoned.


John chapter 15 verses 13-14
Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends.

You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.
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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 04-30-2019, 04:39 PM

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Hmmmm, science has no fulcrum without acknowledging the Creator of All things. The fear of God is the beginning of All wisdom.
Of course, dear. The Bible tells us all about the dangers of science:

1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Knowledge of this world (a.k.a. empirical science) is a shortcut to Hell:

1 Corinthians 3:18-20
18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

So no, you don't have to tell me to stay away from science. However, occasionally, we get here posters who try to argue with us using science as evidence. In my post, I was merely pointing out some holes in the poster's argumentation, showing him that he was rather inept in his attempts.

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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 04-30-2019, 04:53 PM

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Of course, dear. The Bible tells us all about the dangers of science:

1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Knowledge of this world (a.k.a. empirical science) is a shortcut to Hell:

1 Corinthians 3:18-20
18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

So no, you don't have to tell me to stay away from science. However, occasionally, we get here posters who try to argue with us using science as evidence. In my post, I was merely pointing out some holes in the poster's argumentation, showing him that he was rather inept in his attempts.

I hope this was helpful.
Sister, I always thought that whether Timothy had Paul as his spiritual mentor. Can you see the amount of times that apostle Paul always warned Timothy to be careful and leave sin in his ministry as an Evangelist


John chapter 15 verses 13-14
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Sister, I always thought that whether Timothy had Paul as his spiritual mentor. Can you see the amount of times that apostle Paul always warned Timothy to be careful and leave sin in his ministry as an Evangelist
Are you seriously trying to mentor Sister Bas?




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Sister, I always thought that whether Timothy had Paul as his spiritual mentor. Can you see the amount of times that apostle Paul always warned Timothy to be careful and leave sin in his ministry as an Evangelist
Paul is a great spiritual mentor to all of us, dear, since his letters are a big part of the New Testament.
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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 04-30-2019, 05:38 PM

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Are you seriously trying to mentor Sister Bas?


sorry I was reffering to Paul's letters to Timothy. I hope you don't really get wrong what I posted


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Default Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden! - 04-30-2019, 05:41 PM

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Paul is a great spiritual mentor to all of us, dear, since his letters are a big part of the New Testament.
yes sister, I always liked to learn a few things from him.he was a real soldier of Christ. Do you know that when I was a teenager after I left high school, there was a time I went to church and started asking around that I wanted to be a missionary and wouldn't mind dying for Jesus.that was before I got admission into the university. I never minded dying for the gospel of Christ. I was so young ,tender and had no responsibilities


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yes sister, I always liked to learn a few things from him.he was a real soldier of Christ. Do you know that when I was a teenager after I left high school, there was a time I went to church and started asking around that I wanted to be a missionary and wouldn't mind dying for Jesus.that was before I got admission into the university. I never minded dying for the gospel of Christ. I was so young ,tender and had no responsibilities
I believe there might be some places on Earth where that could still be arranged. The Islamic State is finally defunct, but I as far as i know, preaching Christianity in places such as North Korea or Saudi Arabia can still get one to martyrdom. Or, one could do what this dude did and get killed by savages who want to be left alone.
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.(excerpt from post)..Job 38:4-30..
Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding, Who set its measurements?
Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it?
This short passage shows what happens when translators try to second guess God.
The whole point of God's interrogatory is that Job is without knowledge!
You omitted verses two and three; I will include them in the following:
Job 38:2-5
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
4a Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?
4b declare, if thou hast understanding.
5a Who hath laid the measures thereof,
5b if thou knowest?
5c or who hath stretched the line upon it?


COMPARE NASV verse 5
5a Who set its measurements?
5b Since you know.
5c Or who stretched the line on it?
Notice in particular the highlighted verse 5b. Why would "translators" choose virtually an opposite meaning here? Surely, because they're agenda driven. Nevertheless we see that God stretched a line on what Genesis explains was the surface of the waters thus establishing the compass for a firmament and a limit for the earth as viewed from above. Basilissa has already pointed out the irregular shape of the earth including how distant objects are obscured by mountains but The Bible explains how from God's altitude the whole surface is visible. I am not claiming any particular shape for The Firmament, although several possibilities have been suggested, but its base can be represented quite well from God's description and from the attached diagram.
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