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Default Re: How Do I get Saved? A Guide for the Lost! - 06-07-2015, 03:13 AM

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Yeah, whip 'em out.

This thread is nothing without fruits.
I don't like your tone.



Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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Default Re: How Do I get Saved? A Guide for the Lost! - 06-07-2015, 05:18 AM

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Thank you! I accept God and Jesus and I follow their commandments! But what am I supposed to do while I am under investigation?
Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: How Do I get Saved? A Guide for the Lost! - 10-04-2015, 04:17 PM

There had been quite a lot of news about "migrants" arriving in northern Europe especially around seaports and I felt led to witness at some of the truck stop locations which around here are called lorry parks. The ones we see on televised newscasts don't look too impoverished or feeble and some of them are armed with machetes? Well if I could avoid the machetes, here was an opportunity for me while I'm away from home so I claimed II TIMOTHY 1:7 and set off.

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3. Can my family and friends be saved?

Maybe!

Because of the way the system is set up, it is a requirement of salvation that each person believe in JESUS and confess Him as their LORD.

And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. - Acts 8:37

GOD has given us freewill to either choose the free gift of eternal life by doing everything He says, or eternal damnation in a lake of fire by disobedience.

(This may sound like an ultimatum, but really it's a choice.)

This means that any person who will not or cannot believe or understand is going to Hell.

One of the best ways to get your friends and family to be saved is to tell them the Good News of salvation through JESUS CHRIST, and that failure to comply with this offer will result in damnation and eternal torment.
My first question arose almost immediately. Well not my question but something presented to me which I wasn't sure how to deal with. The person concerned hadn't read The New Testament but was relying on some very implausible material from the dark ages which didn't surprise me but of course I have read it and this urger was talking about his family and it was very difficult to get him off the subject. He actually looked a bit like I'd imagine a Macedonian jailor to be:
ACTS 16
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12a, 13, 16 [In] the chief city of that part of Macedonia, on the sabbath, we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither. And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
18b But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.
22-23 And the multitude rose up together against them: and the magistrates rent off their clothes, and commanded to beat them. And…cast them into prison, charging the jailor to keep them safely:
THE MAIN EVENT 26-30 And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed. And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled. But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here. Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
THE CONVERSION EXPERIENCE 31-34 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved and thy house. And they spake unto him the word of the Lord and to all that were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their stripes and was baptized he and all his straightway. And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house. KJV
It would seem that the jailor's household had some opportunity to hear The Good News prior to baptism but there was an earlier example of a businesswoman whose family might not have heard or her household which would probably include slaves as indeed would the jailor's I suppose who would have to do whatever he told them. From the same chapter:
LYDIA 14-15 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul. And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying, If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained us. KJV
God doesn't explain the exact sequence of events. Was Lydia selling her purple by the riverside accompanied by her entire household? This was just before the demon possessed damsel came along and it must have been quite a busy spot really but my question relates to these households. Did they just have a baptism because they were told to? If the family obsessed migrant I was speaking to last night accepted Jesus what would be the status of his family?

When Lydia and the jailor accepted The Word all their households were included. If one of these migrants did likewise, should they dump their families &/or servants and look for something more local? Or would their families be covered on an interim basis subject to accepting Jesus once they heard The Gospel for themselves?
Of course once they did they could just laugh it off and stick with pagan idolatry or fire worship. Then they would go to Hell. I'm meeting him again tonight so would appreciate any advice on this.
I CORINTHIANS 7 context
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For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: KJV
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Default Re: How Do I get Saved? A Guide for the Lost! - 10-18-2016, 04:41 PM

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Default Re: How Do I get Saved? A Guide for the Lost! - 10-18-2016, 05:54 PM

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Dear Tigereddie;


What you have written above hardly constitutes an introduction. You just posted a non-sequitur onto the end of an instructional thread in the introduction sub-forum.


That doesn't count and you need to do better.


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Eddie, you should know that we are quite aware of the fact that almost every person who comes here and tries to sow confusion with a sparse introduction has malice in his heart. Few turn out to be Christian, but we haven't given up on you just yet. If you plan to continue, if you seek salvation or if you are already saved, please make a proper introduction in our introduction forum. Tell us everything, no matter how sordid. You cannot shock us.


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Default Re: How Do I get Saved? A Guide for the Lost! - 12-06-2016, 04:43 PM

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Jesus Re: How Do I get Saved? A Guide for the Lost! - 12-18-2016, 08:13 PM

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So often is the question asked by wanderers and the destitute, "How Do I get Saved?"

This is perhaps the most important question you will ever ask.

Fortunately, you are in the presence of True Christians who are more enlightened than you!

All your questions are answered here!


1. How do I get saved?

Allow us to introduce you to somebody: His name is JESUS CHRIST, and He gave up His temporary life on Earth to allow you a chance to escape the damnation He has in store for you!

The Bible tells us that we must believe in JESUS in order to be redeemed:

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. - John 3:18

JESUS is the only way to get to Heaven:

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
- John 14:6

One of the fundamental, reoccurring themes of the Bible is that humans are insufficient and useless on their own:

But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. - Isaiah 64:6

Finally, you must confess your sins to GOD:

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. - 1 John 1:9

If you accept that you are worthless on your own, and you recognize that JESUS is the Son of GOD and is the only way to Heaven, and you confess your sins, you can be saved! You are really on your way to happiness!


2. Is it enough just to believe in JESUS?

No!

JESUS, being the ultimate manifestation of love and justice, says that if we really care about Him at all, we will do everything He says:

If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15

You can learn more about what GOD's rules are for His people by reading the entire Bible all the way through.


3. Can my family and friends be saved?

Maybe!

Because of the way the system is set up, it is a requirement of salvation that each person believe in JESUS and confess Him as their LORD.

And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. - Acts 8:37

GOD has given us freewill to either choose the free gift of eternal life by doing everything He says, or eternal damnation in a lake of fire by disobedience.

(This may sound like an ultimatum, but really it's a choice.)

This means that any person who will not or cannot believe or understand is going to Hell.

One of the best ways to get your friends and family to be saved is to tell them the Good News of salvation through JESUS CHRIST, and that failure to comply with this offer will result in damnation and eternal torment.


4. What if my friends and family won't accept CHRIST?

They may be your friends and family, but GOD's sentiments towards these people are made very clear:

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. - Ephesians 5:11

There is no such thing as a good unbeliever:

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
- Psalm 14:1

In Old Testament times, family and friends who didn't worship GOD were sentenced to death:

6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;


8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:


9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. - Deuteronomy 13:6-9


If your friends and family don't worship the One True GOD of the Bible, it's time to break off contact until they reconsider!


5. Which parts of the Bible should I follow?

All of it!

GOD wouldn't have wrote it down otherwise!

What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. - Deuteronomy 12:32

If you break just one point of the law, it's just like you've broken them all:

For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
- James 2:10

This includes the Old Testament:

For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
- Romans 15:4


6. Is there an unpardonable sin?

If you turn away from GOD's Spirit, how can you receive salvation?

28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation. - Mark 3:28-29


7. Where can I learn more?

Christian Advice and Messages of Hope! GOD's Greatest Hits!

The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5)

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Welcome, unnamed person. Take heart in knowing that even a public school man, like yourself, may be saved through Jesus. We are friendly and welcoming here. All who seek to fellowship with other Christians are invited to participate and we have found isolated Christians from all over the world in this manner, even in God forsaken atheist countries in Europe and Mexico.

Why don't you tell us a little about yourself? We'd like to know when and how you found Jesus, the name of your Pastor, where you worship and with which congregation and such other information as may be useful in our coming to understand you better. You will find that we have a special place reserved for introductions which we call the "Introduction Forum".

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Default Hello and thank you for your information - 12-20-2016, 11:15 PM

Hello, Bob4God...
I do like the in-depth information you have given, in regards to whatever new person comes into here, wanting to be saved.
My name is James, I am a 46 yr old man has been without religion, or guidance, since I was about 8 yrs old. I was baptized a Catholic, but never really practiced. I have no church I presently worship at, and am working on getting my own copy of the King James Bible from the nearest area to me. I guess you would say I have been "out in the cold," wandering and lost. I am getting to understand the reason and purpose for giving one's self unto God, to serve him well. I came across your website, and started getting into the forums to read some of the topics, and the feedback from many people. I have found them to be very informative and enlightening, from the subjects relating to husbands and wives, to the selling of one's daughter, to bringing back slavery, to the Donald Trump Appreciation....to False Religions and Cults... I am feeling I could really appreciate, and agree, with the way of life, as told through the King James Bible.
I have had many sins in my life, and I do not know if I can overpower them to cleanse myself...but I can try.


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I have had many sins in my life, and I do not know if I can overpower them to cleanse myself...but I can try.
God can cleanse you, dear friend:

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 KJV: 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

There is, however, one exception:

Matthew 12:31-32 KJV: 31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come.


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Thank you, Pastor, for your input of kind thoughts and words,
I appreciate it very much


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I have had many sins in my life, and I do not know if I can overpower them to cleanse myself...but I can try.
You can never overpower sin or cleanse yourself. That is lesson number one of Jesus.


Jesus died on the cross so that His Perfect Blood would wipe out your sins before the Perfect, Sinless, Holy God.


Just confess your utter worthlessness before God. Accept that Jesus and Jesus alone could atone for your sins and spare you from Hell. Ask God to cover you with Jesus' Blood and Done!


You are washed clean as white wool by virtue of Jesus' red corpuscles. In fact, it's the only time in the history of the universe where red makes white!


After that, you just pray with complete faith, read the Bible and obey its every command. It also helps to fellowship with others who read and obey its every command. And that is why we are here.


So, welcome, God Bless and have fun following the real Jesus , not the sandal-wearing hippie that the rest of the world thinks it knows.




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So often is the question asked by wanderers and the destitute, "How Do I get Saved?"

This is perhaps the most important question you will ever ask.

Fortunately, you are in the presence of True Christians who are more enlightened than you!

All your questions are answered here!


1. How do I get saved?

Allow us to introduce you to somebody: His name is JESUS CHRIST, and He gave up His temporary life on Earth to allow you a chance to escape the damnation He has in store for you!

The Bible tells us that we must believe in JESUS in order to be redeemed:

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. - John 3:18

JESUS is the only way to get to Heaven:

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
- John 14:6

One of the fundamental, reoccurring themes of the Bible is that humans are insufficient and useless on their own:

But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. - Isaiah 64:6

Finally, you must confess your sins to GOD:

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. - 1 John 1:9

If you accept that you are worthless on your own, and you recognize that JESUS is the Son of GOD and is the only way to Heaven, and you confess your sins, you can be saved! You are really on your way to happiness!


2. Is it enough just to believe in JESUS?

No!

JESUS, being the ultimate manifestation of love and justice, says that if we really care about Him at all, we will do everything He says:

If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15

You can learn more about what GOD's rules are for His people by reading the entire Bible all the way through.


3. Can my family and friends be saved?

Maybe!

Because of the way the system is set up, it is a requirement of salvation that each person believe in JESUS and confess Him as their LORD.

And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. - Acts 8:37

GOD has given us freewill to either choose the free gift of eternal life by doing everything He says, or eternal damnation in a lake of fire by disobedience.

(This may sound like an ultimatum, but really it's a choice.)

This means that any person who will not or cannot believe or understand is going to Hell.

One of the best ways to get your friends and family to be saved is to tell them the Good News of salvation through JESUS CHRIST, and that failure to comply with this offer will result in damnation and eternal torment.


4. What if my friends and family won't accept CHRIST?

They may be your friends and family, but GOD's sentiments towards these people are made very clear:

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. - Ephesians 5:11

There is no such thing as a good unbeliever:

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
- Psalm 14:1

In Old Testament times, family and friends who didn't worship GOD were sentenced to death:

6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;


8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:


9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. - Deuteronomy 13:6-9


If your friends and family don't worship the One True GOD of the Bible, it's time to break off contact until they reconsider!


5. Which parts of the Bible should I follow?

All of it!

GOD wouldn't have wrote it down otherwise!

What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. - Deuteronomy 12:32

If you break just one point of the law, it's just like you've broken them all:

For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
- James 2:10

This includes the Old Testament:

For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
- Romans 15:4


6. Is there an unpardonable sin?

If you turn away from GOD's Spirit, how can you receive salvation?

28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation. - Mark 3:28-29


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Sounds good, I am hoping to become saved and make up for my mistakes ( infractions on this site ).
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Sounds good, I am hoping to become saved and make up for my mistakes ( infractions on this site ).
Hello Fred,

Interventions exist to help you. They are meant to help you to find the solution for your problems if you want to be a Christian and get to spend eternity with Jesus. You need to repent for all your sins, the most repulsive and the most mundane ones, if there is a difference anyway (James 2:10).

The best thing you can do if you want to become a Christian is tell the pastors everything about your lewd ways, leave no detail unmentioned, and accept the HUGE Love of Christ.

Kind regards,

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I agree.
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Now it's your turn to assert nothing, AGAIN, with no evidence.

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Jesus Re: How Do I get Saved? A Guide for the Lost! - 03-17-2018, 10:04 PM

WHAT YOU TEACH IS HERESY!

Romans 4:5, “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”
My question to you is, Are there two Gospels? That is, are there two plans of salvation from God for man? The answer is a resounding, “NO!” Yet, there are two very different Gospels being taught today in the churches across America...
1. LORDSHIP SALVATION — The false gospel of John MacArthur, Ray Comfort, Kirk Cameron, Paul Washer, Jack Chick, Aiden Tozer, Rick Warren, James Dobson, David Cloud, John Piper, Charles Lawson and others, which requires a person to forsake (or be willing to forsake) their sinful behavior, make amends, and change their ways, as a prerequisite to saving faith. This false gospel confuses the FRUIT of the indwelling Holy Spirit with the ROOT of saving-faith. The sinner is required to change their own life. Believing is not enough, the sinner must commit to forsaking sinful behavior to be saved. This is a false gospel of manmade repentance. In Lordship Salvation, the sinner changes their own life, which is wrongly understood to be repentance.

2. THE GOSPEL — The Biblical Gospel teaches that sinners are saved solely by Christ's righteousness, and that no self-righteousness of any kind is required, nor permitted, because we have none to offer (Isaiah 64:6); neither does a person have to quit any sin to be saved. A changed life is the FRUIT of the indwelling Holy Spirit (Romans 8:9; Galatians 2:20; 5:22-23), and not a part of the ROOT of saving-faith. We don't give up our sins to BE saved; but rather, we give up our sins because we ARE saved. Believing is enough to be saved! God makes the changes. Our part is simply to believe, God does the rest. Romans 4:5 teaches that a person's faith is COUNTED for righteousness! The “Gospel” defined in 1st Corinthians 15:1-4 is that Christ DIED on the cross for our sins. He was BURIED. And then miraculously, after three days, Jesus physically RESURRECTED from the dead. This is “the Gospel” (i.e., Good News) by which sinners are born-again if we “BELIEVE.”
One's salvation is solely based in Christ's righteousness and God's PROMISES (Titus 1:2), having absolutely nothing to do with a sinner's desire to cease from committing sins. Lordship Salvationists place the cart before the horse. Romans 4:5-6 plainly teaches that salvation is without works of self-righteousness, and that the ungodly are saved by the imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ (2nd Corinthians 5:21). Salvation is of the Lord.

A changed life is the FRUIT of the indwelling Holy Spirit (Galatians 2:20; 5:22-23); and not a part of the ROOT of saving faith (Romans 4:5-6). Abraham was saved in Genesis 15:6 when he believed upon the Lord; but Abraham's faith was demonstrated in Genesis 22:10 when he offered up his son Isaac in obedience to God. A person gives up their sins because they ARE a Christian, and not to BECOME a Christian. The changed life comes AFTER a person is saved, as a person grows in the milk of the Word (1st Peter 2:2).
A lot of Christians have brushed the issue aside as a matter of semantics, but the difference between the two Gospels is day and night. One includes a certain degree of self-righteousness (human effort), which is a false gospel; but the other is solely based upon Christ's righteousness and God's PROMISE, which is by the precious literal, physical, blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ in Heaven (Hebrews 9:12, 24; 12:24; Revelation 1:5).
Satan's greatest weapon is to con people into living the Christian life without ever being born-again. We're hearing a lot of talk these days from religious radio, religious books, and in the churches about: “inviting Christ into your life” and “starting a personal relationship with Jesus” and “becoming a Christ follower” and “receving Jesus as one's 'Lord'” and “surrendering all to Christ” and “turning away from your sins,” but NONE OF THESE are the Gospel!!! You can do every one of these things and yet never have been born-again at all, and still go straight to burn in the fires of Hell when you die.
My friend, Jesus warned, “YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN” (John 3:3-7; 1st Peter 1:23). We don't hear that term much these days from the neo-evangelical camp. And sadly, America's independent Baptist churches are not as “independent” as they claim. Even amongst independent Baptist, thousands are following reprobates like Dr. John MacArthur, Paul Washer and others whop have erred from the faith concerning the simplicity that is in Christ (2nd Corinthians 11:3-4). To teach that a person must turn away from sinful activities to be saved is “ANOTHER GOSPEL.” That is not what “repentance” means in the Greek in the Bible. Repentance is simply a change of mind unto the Gospel itself. Please read, The Great Meaning of the Word “Metanoia”!
Salvation is not something that we do to get, it is a gift that we receive to have. Jesus doesn't forgive sin! That is correct. Jesus has already paid for everyone's sins with His blood. Thus, forgiveness of sins and eternal life are free gifts which we simply need to receive, by faith in Jesus Christ! Nor do you have to “ask” Jesus to save you, because God has already promised “TO SAVE THEM THAT BELIEVE” (1st Corinthians 1:21). Beware of the Devil creeping heresy into the churches. There is only one Gospel, as defined in 1st Corinthians 15:1-4. Beware of Dr. James Dobson's nine extra steps to be saved! Beware of Evangelist Billy Graham's false Gospel. I am being your friend to tell you the truth. We are saved by “BELIEVING” the Gospel of Jesus Christ, nothing more!



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WHAT YOU TEACH IS HERESY!

Romans 4:5, “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”
My question to you is, Are there two Gospels? That is, are there two plans of salvation from God for man? The answer is a resounding, “NO!” Yet, there are two very different Gospels being taught today in the churches across America...
1. LORDSHIP SALVATION — The false gospel of John MacArthur, Ray Comfort, Kirk Cameron, Paul Washer, Jack Chick, Aiden Tozer, Rick Warren, James Dobson, David Cloud, John Piper, Charles Lawson and others, which requires a person to forsake (or be willing to forsake) their sinful behavior, make amends, and change their ways, as a prerequisite to saving faith. This false gospel confuses the FRUIT of the indwelling Holy Spirit with the ROOT of saving-faith. The sinner is required to change their own life. Believing is not enough, the sinner must commit to forsaking sinful behavior to be saved. This is a false gospel of manmade repentance. In Lordship Salvation, the sinner changes their own life, which is wrongly understood to be repentance.
Your argument is garbled – I can’t make out your point here.

Jesus requires mankind to have Faith in Him – the only way to do that is to take Him as an example – a sort of “do as I do and as I say” approach.

Obviously, there is some test of faith, otherwise Jesus would not have gone on about “Those who cry Lord! Lord!”, would He?

We accept Jesus when we agree with everything He did and said and when our doing and saying becomes automatic and unthinking and His. At this point, if we have followed the instructions, then, we are Saved.

It is not the “willingness to be Saved” that Saves us, but the spiritual state that saves us.

Now although this may take some time to achieve, and although there is backsliding (I’m looking at you with your false gods and misunderstanding and believing the garbage that has been fed to you since birth) Jesus knows if your acceptance of Him is genuine from the start – He sees in the soul, He sees motive.

I genuinely believe that you think you have an answer, and it is a pity that you have been deluded by false prophets and the wiles of Satan because of you had made it to heaven, you could have had a word with that Patriarch, Job – he is renowned for his patience – I am not.

Please sum up your entire philosophy in 200 words – an “executive summary” if you will – it will help us both: you, as it will crystallize your thoughts and me, as it will save me reading something that may well be blasphemous.


PS - as far as you can, please keep to Jesus's Words, rather than Paul's - I feel they carry more weight, don't you?


Thank you.




Ec:7:16: Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself?

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Cool Re: How Do I get Saved? A Guide for the Lost! - 03-18-2018, 12:00 AM

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Your argument is garbled – I can’t make out your point here.

Jesus requires mankind to have Faith in Him – the only way to do that is to take Him as an example – a sort of “do as I do and as I say” approach.

Obviously, there is some test of faith, otherwise Jesus would not have gone on about “Those who cry Lord! Lord!”, would He?

We accept Jesus when we agree with everything He did and said and when our doing and saying becomes automatic and unthinking and His. At this point, if we have followed the instructions, then, we are Saved.

It is not the “willingness to be Saved” that Saves us, but the spiritual state that saves us.

Now although this may take some time to achieve, and although there is backsliding (I’m looking at you with your false gods and misunderstanding and believing the garbage that has been fed to you since birth) Jesus knows if your acceptance of Him is genuine from the start – He sees in the soul, He sees motive.

I genuinely believe that you think you have an answer, and it is a pity that you have been deluded by false prophets and the wiles of Satan because of you had made it to heaven, you could have had a word with that Patriarch, Job – he is renowned for his patience – I am not.

Please sum up your entire philosophy in 200 words – an “executive summary” if you will – it will help us both: you, as it will crystallize your thoughts and me, as it will save me reading something that may well be blasphemous.


PS - as far as you can, please keep to Jesus's Words, rather than Paul's - I feel they carry more weight, don't you?


Thank you.
Here is Jesus' word in John 3:16-18:


For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.



I am not saying we have a license to sin, God forbid, our mistakes will always have consequences. Salvation is automatically, sanctification a live long process.
You cannot get saved by believing faith wasn't enough. That downplays the power of Christ's blood atonement.

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (Matthew 7:21-23)


What is the father's will?


All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6:37-40)

A true Christian knows that Jesus does not make shallow promises like us.
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