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Lightbulb Prove creation with Universe Sandbox - 05-17-2011, 02:40 PM

There's a software that make you able to simulate movements of celestial bodies, called Universe Sandbox. I tried it out, made some simulation about what happen if a large cluster of moon-sized bodies are left to undergo a gravitational collapse on their own. Would they eventually form a massive object in the center and have planets orbit in beautiful near-perfect circles in a plane?

The result was not close the perfection of the solar system. While a massive object in the center formed, the remaining bodies either move in highly eccentric orbits, or have too high velocity to stay in the system. In addition, they have no tendency to align in a plane. Life in such solar system would be impossible. And contrary to popular belief, eccentric orbits do not magically become circular over time.

The only reasonable explanation is that God created the sun, earth, moon and all planets, and placed them in proper orbits, at proper velocity.
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Default Re: Prove creation with Universe Sandbox - 05-17-2011, 05:23 PM

A wonderfull posting Mr Luke!

I think is logic this because a random cuantitty of material floating in the espace is pretty dangeros if you think about it (and beleiebe me I have thunk about it a lot and come to same conclusions whitouth the sandboss softwear) and of course is only pssible was GOD what made these alinements happen they way they is today!

Take the example of throw some nice spanish olives in the air or in a bath or even in the espace...they won't to congregate in ´orbits for accidentally of course they will be just random olives floating in bath, espace or all dirty on the ground and THAT is a waste of nice spanish olives what would be delcious with a 'cervecita' for the aperitivo so yes I agree whit all of this and I'm feel hungry now cos aperitivo make me think in food so I think I'm gonna estart thinking of make dinner now, perhaps some 'fideuà' - delicious dish of Valenica & Alicante. Ñam Ñam.

Excelente post Mr Luke.

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Default Re: Prove creation with Universe Sandbox - 05-20-2011, 04:52 AM

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There's a software that make you able to simulate movements of celestial bodies, called Universe Sandbox. I tried it out, made some simulation about what happen if a large cluster of moon-sized bodies are left to undergo a gravitational collapse on their own. Would they eventually form a massive object in the center and have planets orbit in beautiful near-perfect circles in a plane?

The result was not close the perfection of the solar system. While a massive object in the center formed, the remaining bodies either move in highly eccentric orbits, or have too high velocity to stay in the system. In addition, they have no tendency to align in a plane. Life in such solar system would be impossible. And contrary to popular belief, eccentric orbits do not magically become circular over time.

The only reasonable explanation is that God created the sun, earth, moon and all planets, and placed them in proper orbits, at proper velocity.
So the atheists are now creating virtual universes in order to prove there's no creator?

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.


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Default Re: Prove creation with Universe Sandbox - 05-20-2011, 04:57 AM

That program wasn't created to disprove God, it was made to model different types of planetary formation.

The fact of the matter is most atheists don't care about God, after all the definition of an atheist is someone who doesn't believe there IS a God. So disproving God wouldn't really appeal to them.
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Default Re: Prove creation with Universe Sandbox - 05-20-2011, 04:59 AM

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That program wasn't created to disprove God, it was made to model different types of planetary formation.

The fact of the matter is most atheists don't care about God, after all the definition of an atheist is someone who doesn't believe there IS a God. So disproving God wouldn't really appeal to them.
Yep, that's why they log into Christian forums to call us names. That's why they spend so much time openly mocking Christians. That's why the Pope of science declared that Heaven doesn't exist.

Quit spreading your lies.


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Default Re: Prove creation with Universe Sandbox - 05-20-2011, 05:04 AM

Everything I have said is the truth. Just because one scientist has an opinion about something doesn't mean that everyone else will have the same one as well.

Also, not all atheists are rude people who mock other people. That is a small group of people that give other atheists a bad reputation.
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Default Re: Prove creation with Universe Sandbox - 05-20-2011, 05:21 AM

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Also, not all atheists are rude people who mock other people. That is a small group of people that give other atheists a bad reputation.
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Default Re: Prove creation with Universe Sandbox - 05-20-2011, 05:23 AM

I'm an atheist and I'm not being rude. I'm trying to have a conversation with some nice (and some rude) Christians to learn more about their religion.
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Default Re: Prove creation with Universe Sandbox - 05-20-2011, 05:27 AM

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I'm an atheist and I'm not being rude. I'm trying to have a conversation with some nice (and some rude) Christians to learn more about their religion.
Personally I've found you very rude and arrogant. You're here because you think you're smarter than us and think you can poke fun at us.

Typical atheist scum.


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Default Re: Prove creation with Universe Sandbox - 05-20-2011, 03:42 PM

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Personally I've found you very rude and arrogant. You're here because you think you're smarter than us and think you can poke fun at us.

Typical atheist scum.
How is he being rude? I don't understand, in his post he has shown NO arrogance, he even said he is trying to simply have a conversation.

You moan at people judging you for being Ture Christian yet you have just judged him for saying he is an atheist and even called him scum! He is allowed to have his own beliefs. If God has given us the power to think for ourselves and is all knowing and powerful he knew this would happen.
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Being an atheist is very rude!


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Default Re: Prove creation with Universe Sandbox - 05-20-2011, 03:54 PM

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Default Re: Prove creation with Universe Sandbox - 05-20-2011, 05:17 PM

Being somebody who judges someone for their beliefs is very rude. Being an atheist does not make him rude it just makes him have different beliefs to you. He is allowed to believe what he wants.
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Default Re: Prove creation with Universe Sandbox - 05-21-2011, 01:16 AM

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Being somebody who judges someone for their beliefs is very rude. Being an atheist does not make him rude it just makes him have different beliefs to you. He is allowed to believe what he wants.
Why don't you and your boyfriend go bother the people over at Dawkins site for a while and leave us Christians alone? Would it be rude if I busted into your house and started blasting scripture with a bullhorn? If it is, why is what you're doing any different.


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