[Meek and Humble]

A scientist in 1899 claimed the diameter is only 32 miles, some of his points made are very interesting.

''The sun is always somewhere between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, a distance admitted to be less than 3,000 miles; how then can the sun if it be so many thousand miles in diameter, squeece itself into a space of about 3,000 miles only...can a camel ride on a mouse, or a whale rush down the throat of a herring?

What is the diameter of the sun?

32 miles. If the navigator neglects to apply the sun's semi-diameter to his observation at sea, he is 16 nautical miles (nearly) in calculating the position his ship is in. A minute of arc on the sextant represents a nautical mile, and if the semi-diameter be 16 miles, the diameter is of course 32 miles. And as measured by the sextant, the sun's diameter is 32 minutes of arc, that is 32 nautical miles in diameter. If ever dispoof is attempted, it will be a literary curiosity, well worth framing.''

[James Hutchins]

Wow, I had no idea, I always thought it was much smaller, like 5 miles. Thanks for the Biblical facts, Heathen Basher, I know I can always count on your for God's Honest Truth®.

[cazoofool]

You forget the fact that the sun is millions of miles away, it may "look" like these constellations are close to each other, when they are in fact millions of miles apart, suns couldn't survive that close to each other, they would red dwarf instantly to the excessive amounts of energy.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by cazoofoo

You forget the fact that ......millions of miles.....insane mumbo jumbo........red dwarf .....

The sun is barely 500 miles frm sea level, and exists in the oceans about the sky. There are no indian midgets in the sky.

[The Sorcerer]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

The sun is barely 500 miles frm sea level, and exists in the oceans about the sky. There are no indian midgets in the sky.

The waters in the heavens in the bible comes from the fact that Genesis was heavily based on the Egyptian creation story, with the Jews working in Egypt in the lean years back home (they were never slaves) so they knew their stories and their myths.

The Egyptians said that a mountain rose out of the river Nile. The mountain was called a firmament. It not only means heavens, etc. So there were waters above and below the firmament. From this mountain came the first god, Atun, who was both male and female. This explains some of the strange stuff from Genesis 1 and 2.

The ancients thought there was a river in the sky. Get out in the country away from city lights and on a dark night, you can just see the Milky Way, which is a side on view of our Galaxy of hundreds of billions of stars. It looks like a silvery stream.

Do you believe that the Sun orbits our planet? You could try and explain the planet Mercury's retrograde orbit where it appears to move in the opposite direction to the other planets for a time, where actually we see it on the other side of the Sun.

Since we know the Moon makes waves in our seas on Earth, why does the nearby Sun not do the same?

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by The Sorcerer

...Since we know the Moon makes waves in our seas on Earth...

The moon makes tides, not waves. Different thing.

...why does the nearby Sun not do the same?

It does affect the tides, just to a lesser degree than the moon. re

Please go learn what you're trying (and failing) to teach others about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by The Sorcerer

The waters in the heavens in the bible comes from the fact that Genesis was heavily based on the Egyptian creation story, with the Jews working in Egypt in the lean years back home (they were never slaves) so they knew their stories and their myths.

The Egyptians said that a mountain rose out of the river Nile. The mountain was called a firmament. It not only means heavens, etc. So there were waters above and below the firmament. From this mountain came the first god, Atun, who was both male and female. This explains some of the strange stuff from Genesis 1 and 2.

The ancients thought there was a river in the sky. Get out in the country away from city lights and on a dark night, you can just see the Milky Way, which is a side on view of our Galaxy of hundreds of billions of stars. It looks like a silvery stream.

Do you believe that the Sun orbits our planet? You could try and explain the planet Mercury's retrograde orbit where it appears to move in the opposite direction to the other planets for a time, where actually we see it on the other side of the Sun.

Since we know the Moon makes waves in our seas on Earth, why does the nearby Sun not do the same?

Friend, you spout a lot of nonsense and not speck backed up by God in Creation.
Tell me, do you ever venture out of your cave during the day to the oceans edge? There are waves during the day, massive ones.

[Meek and Humble]

Originally Posted by cazoofoo

Daww did Mummy let you out the cupboard again? Silly woman, letting retards like you running around with daddies "God books".

I asked how you know the distance to the sun. You are claiming it's not an estimate but that you know the precise figure. So have you traveled to the sun and back? My point was to clarify the distinction between fact and estimates (guesses).
I'm open minded and read different theories. Unless you go up into space yourself there is no way of proving the exact size of the sun or location of celestial objects. It appears you base all your faith in what NASA etc tell you without ever questioning anything. I thought atheists were meant to be 'skeptics'?

[The Sorcerer]

Originally Posted by Meek and Humble

I asked how you know the distance to the sun. You are claiming it's not an estimate but that you know the precise figure. So have you traveled to the sun and back? My point was to clarify the distinction between fact and estimates (guesses).
I'm open minded and read different theories. Unless you go up into space yourself there is no way of proving the exact size of the sun or location of celestial objects. It appears you base all your faith in what NASA etc tell you without ever questioning anything. I thought atheists were meant to be 'skeptics'?

Hold you fist at arm's length and stick up your thumb. First look at it and behind it with your left eye then your right eye. It appears to have moved, just by the view from the distance between each eye. This is called parallax.

Planets and the Sun were observed from different places on the Earth at the same time and using those known distances between the observers, we could see how much the planets and Sun appeared to have moved.

Cassini did this back in 1672 and found Mars did not come within 35 million miles of us and that Saturn was 900 million miles away, though it is big enough to see with the naked eye.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by cazoofoo

Daww did Mummy let you out the cupboard again? Silly woman, letting retards like you running around with daddies "God books".

The classic response from a person who knows he has nary a leg to stand on, to insult the other person. Typical childish post.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by cazoofoo

Urgh, I apologise for my sisters handywork on this thread, she's hacked onto my account and has been spouting blasphemy to all of you, I dearly apoligise.

I see.
Well.
That makes all the difference in the world.

[Sister Kitty]

Originally Posted by cazoofoo

Urgh, I apologise for my sisters handywork on this thread, she's hacked onto my account and has been spouting blasphemy to all of you, I dearly apoligise.

Has your father properly disciplined her yet?

[whitegirl]

If that were true, it'd be smaller than New York City. And if THAT were true, it would in no way possible be heating us up and giving us life everyday. That whole cycle of nature thing you know, sun, plants, animals, people? Yeah. We wouldn't be alive without it.

I mean, it's common sense really.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by whitegirl

If that were true, it'd be smaller than New York City. And if THAT were true, it would in no way possible be heating us up and giving us life everyday. That whole cycle of nature thing you know, sun, plants, animals, people? Yeah. We wouldn't be alive without it.

I mean, it's common sense really.

How close can you get to a bonfire? Now imagine one 1,000 times larger.

Honestly, I do not know why they let females on the internet!

[PrinsesseLily]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

How close can you get to a bonfire? Now imagine one 1,000 times larger.

Honestly, I do not know why they let females on the internet!

that is not a nice thing to say^^

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by PrinsesseLily

that is not a nice thing to say^^

Why? I told her to imagine, not actually make an enormous bonfire the size of the Sun.

You women!

[PrinsesseLily]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

Why? I told her to imagine, not actually make an enormous bonfire the size of the Sun.

You women!

nop you said: Honestly, I do not know why they let females on the internet!

and that is not a nice thing to say

[The Sorcerer]

Originally Posted by Meek and Humble

A scientist in 1899 claimed the diameter is only 32 miles, some of his points made are very interesting.

''The sun is always somewhere between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, a distance admitted to be less than 3,000 miles; how then can the sun if it be so many thousand miles in diameter, squeece itself into a space of about 3,000 miles only...can a camel ride on a mouse, or a whale rush down the throat of a herring?

What is the diameter of the sun?

32 miles. If the navigator neglects to apply the sun's semi-diameter to his observation at sea, he is 16 nautical miles (nearly) in calculating the position his ship is in. A minute of arc on the sextant represents a nautical mile, and if the semi-diameter be 16 miles, the diameter is of course 32 miles. And as measured by the sextant, the sun's diameter is 32 minutes of arc, that is 32 nautical miles in diameter. If ever dispoof is attempted, it will be a literary curiosity, well worth framing.''

On a spherical world, we can only see the sun from certain parts of it, allowing that the planet tilts 23 degrees and rotates, so we have the two "Tropics" you mention. For the sun to be just 32 miles in diameter, it would have to be very close to the Earth.

From different parts of Earth's orbit ie: one side of the sun and then the other, we can see different stars with telescopic accuracy showing we have moved a great distance. That is how we get the measurement, a parsec, and how we worek out a distance of 186 million miles in diameter as our orbit.

Back around the same time, it was worked out that if the sun were made of coal, it would burn itself out in less than five years, so what do you think the sun is made of, remembering that by using a spectroscope attached to a telescope, we can know what it is made of and how it works.

We can see that like the Moon going through phases, so know Mercury and Venus which goes through the same phases are closer to the Sun than we are. Knowing the speed of light and radar waves, bouncing radar waves off of them in 1966 and 1967, we not only found the "Shapiro delay" to be true, but also their distances, which even on our side of the Sun and close to us can be over 30 million miles for Venus and over 65 million miles for Mercury, and the Sun is beyond them so well over 65 million miles away.

We have sent probes to near the Sun so we know it is 93 million miles away, on average, and 864,000 miles in diameter. The Sun rotates, so we can get a redshift and blueshift in it's spectra, which tells us how fast it is rotating, so it's size.

If the Sun were just 32 miles in diameter, it would be a tiny speck in the sky and we would all have frozen to death long ago.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by The Sorcerer

On a spherical world, we can only see the sun from certain parts of it, allowing that the planet tilts 23 degrees and rotates, so we have the two "Tropics" you mention. For the sun to be just 32 miles in diameter, it would have to be very close to the Earth.

From different parts of Earth's orbit ie: one side of the sun and then the other, we can see different stars with telescopic accuracy showing we have moved a great distance. That is how we get the measurement, a parsec, and how we worek out a distance of 186 million miles in diameter as our orbit.

Back around the same time, it was worked out that if the sun were made of coal, it would burn itself out in less than five years, so what do you think the sun is made of, remembering that by using a spectroscope attached to a telescope, we can know what it is made of and how it works.

We can see that like the Moon going through phases, so know Mercury and Venus which goes through the same phases are closer to the Sun than we are. Knowing the speed of light and radar waves, bouncing radar waves off of them in 1966 and 1967, we not only found the "Shapiro delay" to be true, but also their distances, which even on our side of the Sun and close to us can be over 30 million miles for Venus and over 65 million miles for Mercury, and the Sun is beyond them so well over 65 million miles away.

We have sent probes to near the Sun so we know it is 93 million miles away, on average, and 864,000 miles in diameter. The Sun rotates, so we can get a redshift and blueshift in it's spectra, which tells us how fast it is rotating, so it's size.

If the Sun were just 32 miles in diameter, it would be a tiny speck in the sky and we would all have frozen to death long ago.

tl;dr

Are you aware that being a sorcerer is a sure-fire way of getting your ticket punched for hell?

[GoldenShower]

the sun is not physically in the space between the TO Cancer and the TOCapricorn. The sun is thousands of miles away, and it's rays are the thing that shines between those two tropics. It shines there because of the 23.56 degree tilt of the Earth's axis. Seriously, read a science book