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Couple Fined for Holding Home Bible Study -
09-22-2011, 06:25 AM
It's hard to say when Jesus will get around to punishing the officials in San Juan Capistrano, California – or just what that punishment will ultimately be. We know from past experience that Jesus has been partial to earth quakes, torrential rains with accompanying mud slides, and massive forest fires as punishment for the egregious sins of Californians. While I prefer God's justice to be dispensed swiftly, my faith trusts the Iron Fist of Jesus to prioritize for maximum impact.
Probably with equal outrage in this case is my guess that San Juan Capistrano allows mooselimbs to wander around their city with their obnoxious hijabs without a permit. If anything, citizens should be fined for NOT holding Bible (KJV1611) studies in their home.
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California City Fines Couple for Holding Bible Study in Their Home
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 1:36am by Madeleine Morgenstern
A southern California couple has been fined $300 dollars for holding Christian Bible study sessions in their home, and could face another $500 for each additional gathering.
City officials in San Juan Capistrano, Calif. say Chuck and Stephanie Fromm are in violation of municipal code 9-3.301, which prohibits "religious, fraternal or non-profit" organizations in residential neighborhoods without a permit. Stephanie hosts a Wednesday Bible study that draws about 20 attendees, and Chuck holds a Sunday service that gets about 50.
The Fromms appealed their citations but were denied and warned future sessions would carry heftier penalties. A statement from the Pacific Justice Institute, which is defending the couple in a lawsuit against the city, said Chuck Fromm was also told regular gatherings of three or more people require a conditional use permit, which can be costly and difficult to obtain.
"How dare they tell us we can’t have whatever we want in our home," Stephanie Fromm told the Capistrano Dispatch. "We want to be able to use our home. We’ve paid a lot and invested a lot in our home and backyard … I should be able to be hospitable in my home."
According to the Dispatch, the Fromms live in a neighborhood with large homes and have a corral, barn, pool and huge back lawn on their property, so parking and noise aren’t a problem.
"There’s no singing or music," Stephanie said. "It’s meditative."
The Dispatch reported a code-enforcement officer gave the Fromms a verbal warning about the meetings in May, then returned to issue citations in June and July. According to the paper, the city’s code-enforcement department is reactive, meaning they only respond to complaints.
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"Imposing a heavy-handed permit requirement on a home Bible study is outrageous," said Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute. "An informal gathering in a home cannot be treated with suspicion by the government, or worse than any other gathering of friends, just because it is religious."
"We cannot allow this to happen in America, and we will fight as long and as hard as it takes to restore this group’s religious freedom."
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cali...in-their-home/
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Re: Coupe Fined for Holding Home Bible Study -
09-22-2011, 09:49 AM
What a sick place this California is! I am praying for the days Jesus dumps them all into the oceans!!
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Re: Coupe Fined for Holding Home Bible Study -
09-22-2011, 10:16 AM
Whatever next? The war against Christianity continues unabated as Obama laughs from the nest he usurped in the White House! Does "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." mean nothing?
We The People will establish religion where and when we want and Souls are to be saved whether they want it or not! The godless in society set bad examples for our children and are no better than whoremongers and drug dealers!
M't:10:28: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
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Re: Coupe Fined for Holding Home Bible Study -
09-22-2011, 10:31 AM
But... I want to pray!
I need to calm down.
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Re: Coupe Fined for Holding Home Bible Study -
09-22-2011, 01:39 PM
No doubt, if they'd wanted to hold a reading group on 1970s Italian Marxist theory, a weekly queer orgy, a hippy meditation circle or a one-legged lesbian terrorist training cell, they'd be receiving state funds from Big Government in the name of "diversity". Equal rights? What about my equal rights, eh?
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Re: Couple Fined for Holding Home Bible Study -
09-22-2011, 04:50 PM
"There’s no singing or music," Stephanie said. "It’s meditative."
What are they? Quakers?
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Re: Couple Fined for Holding Home Bible Study -
09-22-2011, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda
"There’s no singing or music," Stephanie said. "It’s meditative."
What are they? Quakers?
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How big is that house? Do they actually have enough closets for 20 - 50 people? I doubt even the Vanderbilt mansion has that many closets. Where are those people supposed to pray? Matthew 6:6 -- But thou when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy doore, pray to thy father which is in secret, and thy father which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
I think we are being too harsh on the civil authorities. Apparently they are godly men who knew of Matthew 6:6 and realized the house did not have enough closets for the people attending Bible Study and Sunday services.
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Re: Couple Fined for Holding Home Bible Study -
09-23-2011, 01:02 AM
In city-speak, this is a "planning and zoning" issue. The house is in a residential neighborhood zoned for housing only. It is not zoned for businesses or churches.
In Freehold we don't have those kind of zoning restricitions, and that place should not either. We have a phrase, "Open for Christian Church use," in both the code for residential and business areas.
Just in case anyone asks, I put that phrase in there myself.
JJH
Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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