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Default Re: Advice needed: What is the fastest way to get Covid-19? - 02-16-2021, 12:23 AM

There is a big blah blah blah in the press about this: In some places wealthy people are getting vaccinations while those with less have to wait. Hospital Board members, for example, are slipped in when hospital staff are getting vaccinated.
How could these complainers not understand money has privileges? If the rich get sick our country will be in serious trouble. If the poor get sick we can just move along until they recover. I have turned off my hearing of low income complainers.


Some hospitals are giving wealthy donors early COVID-19 vaccinations — and that could damage trust in health care at a critical time - MarketWatch


Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Default Re: Advice needed: What is the fastest way to get Covid-19? - 02-16-2021, 03:14 AM

Jesus promised:


John 14:14
If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.


I've heard suggestions that Jesus was simply talking about miracles He performed at the time, healing someone because they'd asked Him to. But that is not so; however great Christ's Healing Ministry was then, now an even greater ministry exists. When Jesus told us, obviously 2021 was in the future – and it's the future He's talking about. But first something had to happen.


John 14:12c Jesus speaking
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.


Who shall do these works?


John 14:12b
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.


Will healing capabilities be as extensive, less extensive or more extensive than Jesus’?


John 14:12d
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.


Was there any explanation why Christians would receive a greater healing capacity?


John 14:12e
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.


Will future miracles, i.e. the ministry through Christians today, be limited?


John 14:13a
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.


There can be no doubt that Jesus promised a healing ministry greater than His own. Nevertheless, although greater, it could still be limited. For example a helicopter is faster than a bicycle but its speed is not infinite. Jesus addressed this point very thoroughly, even reiterating His remarks in verse 14 just to make sure we understood. Now I'm aware that today among those who never read The Bible or who do read it but don't believe what they read, there's a reluctance to accept this promise. There are others who'll claim that Jesus was not talking about physical healing at all.

How can that be? Did blind Bartimaeus not receive his actual eyesight? What about leprosy? Were those wretches only delivered from leprosy-of-the-heart (I've never heard of such a disease) or did they recover from actual leprosy? Leprosy of the entire body? Stressing the word body? Of course they were. Otherwise why would they have to present themselves for bodily, I'll just repeat that: bodily, examination?

In summary then, if people calling themselves "Christians" do not believe what Jesus said, in this case very unambiguously, why do they impose their dogma on others as if it were actually true? And that MUST be what they're doing because if they really believed His teaching they would claim this promise and manifest its veracity for the world to see. They do not do that. True Christians acknowledge the status of Christ's words and act accordingly. The Bible explains what that means. Those who do not believe God have no business lying to others about it, when what they actually believe is something quite different.





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Default Re: Advice needed: What is the fastest way to get Covid-19? - 02-16-2021, 08:11 PM

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There is a big blah blah blah in the press about this: In some places wealthy people are getting vaccinations while those with less have to wait. Hospital Board members, for example, are slipped in when hospital staff are getting vaccinated.
How could these complainers not understand money has privileges? If the rich get sick our country will be in serious trouble. If the poor get sick we can just move along until they recover. I have turned off my hearing of low income complainers.


Some hospitals are giving wealthy donors early COVID-19 vaccinations — and that could damage trust in health care at a critical time - MarketWatch
Rich people donating to hospitals enables those hospitals to hire more doctors and obtain more supplies. In return all those people ask for is special treatment like priority access to limited supplies. This is a win-win.

Who benefits society more. Rich people who generously donate to our society, or old people who live off socialist security and will most likely be dead in a few years anyway? This, to me, is not a difficult decision.
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Default Re: Advice needed: What is the fastest way to get Covid-19? - 02-16-2021, 10:38 PM

I just learned that because I already got the Covid-19 from Trump, that I am immune. So when Biden's vaccination gestapo arrives, I will be ready for them!

Matthew 9:12 "But when he heard it, he said, “Those who are well have no need of a physician"


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Default Re: Advice needed: What is the fastest way to get Covid-19? - 02-17-2021, 01:32 AM

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Matthew 9:12 "But when he heard it, he said, “Those who are well have no need of a physician"
A very encouraging Scripture. There's a direct link between physical wellbeing and spiritual wellbeing. Prosperity. The Bible presents that association like this:


III John 1:2
Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.


Christians accept, humbly, the best possible prosperity of souls. The future is assured and it's not one of diminishing returns, bliss to start with but eventually that wears off and there seems less to give praise for that hasn't been glorified a million times already, ennui sets in, then it's all downhill in a sort of C-minus division. Not at all!


I Corinthians 15:16-22
For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

^ ^ ^ The C-minus division ^ ^ ^



But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

^ ^ ^ True Christians ^ ^ ^



The degree of prosperity in health derives from Christian prosperity of the soul, so easy to determine when you see the things actually consuming time and effort here in this life. The latest fluorescent footwear as worn by sports idols? Ridiculously oversized yet strangely somehow lewd clothing? Broided hair? Tinkling gold ornaments? Absurd gemstones? The latest device or console? Where these things are god, when that's where the money is spent, health as well as spiritual prosperity have been rejected.

No wonder they haven't got anything left to pay the pittance for a vaccine!
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flag Re: Advice needed: What is the fastest way to get Covid-19? - 02-18-2021, 12:28 AM

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I just learned that because I already got the Covid-19 from Trump, that I am immune. So when Biden's vaccination gestapo arrives, I will be ready for them!

Matthew 9:12 "But when he heard it, he said, “Those who are well have no need of a physician"
Amen, dear Brother Cranky -- amen! The would have us warn the people of these vexatious vaccinations -- for the good of all that is holy and decent! Who knows what those "scientists" are putting into those serums, as they plot to jab people with substances that are akin to force-feeding poison to people? Those needles could well contain chemicals that will force people to take the Mark of the Beast, and to become loyal, devoted slaves to not-my-President Joe Burden -- as part of a communist takeover of our nation! We must be on guard constantly, and we must do whatever we can to protect from this contemptible corruption by the Demonrats!

Ephesians 6:16 "Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked."
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Default Re: Advice needed: What is the fastest way to get Covid-19? - 05-15-2021, 01:25 AM

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This is just some kind of madness! Messengers receive "tips" on how to treat coronavirus. Some idiots are spreading nonsense about throwing soda into boiling water and breathing this steam. It doesn't take a genius to realize that steam can burn mucous membranes and cause severe inflammation. But some people, unique in their ignorance, are sending out this nonsense. I honestly try to treat people kindly, but to endure this heresy is no longer any faith and decency.
This is only dangerous if you use coca-cola. The correct tincture of essential oils protects the mucus membrane and prayer protects the spirit. One need only a rudimentary amount of knowledge to understand how the human body works. It's not rocket science you know.


In any case, this post doesn't answer Brother Cranky's question, nor does it help others who wish to hasten their immune system the natural way. For this a trip to India would be advised.


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Is there more I can do?
Christians are inured to suffering, not necessarily due to torture at the hands of disbelievers but because of Christ's Infinite Torture dished out by pagans on the whim of a mob stirred up by maniacs, infinite because He was perfect and because no whip ever is.


Isaiah 53:4-5
Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.


Interesting as poetry no doubt (I'm not actually a fan of poetry) but what has this got to do with Christianity? In 711BC?? Even by the most ludicrous estimates dating one Hellenistic scheme as deriving from a convenient monotheistic tradition (having worked out Mount Olympus was uninhabited due to atoms and rudimentary quantum field theory) that developed beyond any mystery cult into modern Christianity from approx. the time of Euclid give-or-take a century [chart excerpt uses 75-year blocks] WHERE IS ISAIAH IN THIS??? What has he to do with Jesus, it's suggested, but the answer is right there in The Bible.


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I Peter 2:21b
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.


Does that mean Christ was judged worthy of pain, immense pain, tearing and ripping of flesh, but with no righteous cause?


I Peter 2:23c
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.


God knew what He was doing, as He always does. From time to time, plagues are blasted down, many are smitten. Of course the Christian is dead to sin; God knows the conditions under which infection must ensue. I have no wish to emulate that mode of existence (it isn't life really, is it) yet The Whip is a cruel and nasty thing which Christ endured for us.


I Peter 2:24e
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.


Slicing across flesh leaving zebra-like stripes but crimson-hued rather than black and white. Imagine your family members under The Whip wriggling and squirming and trying to get away: what would you do? What are you doing in this plague – knowing that mercy can never be manifest without a cause for mercy, nor healing as promised without disease; Redemption without sin? (to reset our spiritual compass) Salvation with nothing to be saved from? (as those early Greek absurdities implied) – to demonstrate Christ's Healing Power the quickest way to be infected now or at any other time must be to repudiate Christ. His gateway mercy, His powerful word: to become infected and blessed with the mercy of healing, as The Bible sets out, as Jesus knew and as Isaiah foresaw, all those years ago.
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