[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by sharksforever

i'm new here
just wondering where seventh day adventists and jehovas witness' fit in as far as false religions go

They aren't Christians, if that's what you're asking.

You might try looking them up in THIS thread.

[Father Thomas Martin]

Originally Posted by Brother Temperance

Mark 10:12And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

There you have it. The Bible quite clearly states that your whore of a mother is a whore. Or do you have a problem with God as well as us now?

Why do you endorse exceptions though, hypocrite?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by Father Thomas Martin

Why do you endorse exceptions though, hypocrite?

Mr Martin,
I'm shocked! What a question for you, of all people, to ask. I assume it's about divorce...

http://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-annulment.html ...According to the New American Bible (NAB ), a Catholic Bible translation, Matthew 5:32 and 19:9 read thus: "whoever divorces his wife (UNLESS THE MARRIAGE IS UNLAWFUL) causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery [emphasis added]." The concept of an "unlawful marriage" in the NAB is translated as either "(marital) unfaithfulness," "adultery," or "fornication" in the every other major Bible translation. There does not seem to be any textual basis for the NAB's choice of words, except to support the Catholic Church's own doctrine.

Although Jesus taught that divorce was only written into the Law because of human stubbornness (Matthew 19:8), and that the original intent of God was for the spouses to never separate (Genesis 2:24), He makes the exception in cases of adultery. The Catholic Church's teaching of marriage doesn't ignore this fact; it mistranslates Scripture to support its own unbiblical teaching of marriage as unending, and then creates the annulment process to allow a Catholic-sanctioned way to end said marriage by declaring it as never having been valid. The annulment process is unbiblical in the sense that Jesus only allowed for adultery as the basis for ending a marriage, and the annulment process allows for many, many reasons, but not for the one reason Jesus mentioned. The Catholic Church does not accept the only biblical reason for divorce as valid, and in fact creates a new list of unbiblical reasons for a marriage to end.

The Roman Catholic Church’s practice of annulment is not Biblical. It is founded on an unbiblical concept, that of the sacraments conferring grace. It is essentially an “escape” from what the Bible defines as a marriage. It ignores what the Bible does say about marriage, divorce, and adultery. Essentially, the Catholic practice of marriage annulment is an unbiblical way to escape from a doctrine that is itself unbiblical.

[sharksforever]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

They aren't Christians, if that's what you're asking.

You might try looking them up in THIS thread.

you need to update your list pastor

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by sharksforever

you need to update your list pastor

Trust me we do, by false religions pop up constantly.

Tell me; did you chose "Sharkforever" because you are a fan of the San Jose Sharks hockey team? While it is my earnest hope you are not a homer from California I am obligated to ask.

[sharksforever]

Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe

Tell me; did you chose "Sharkforever" because you are a fan of the San Jose Sharks hockey team? While it is my earnest hope you are not a homer from California I am obligated to ask.

not from california

[Blazy Blaze]

I would say Christians.

[VictoryOS]

Originally Posted by Blazy Blaze

I would say Christians.

Nobody cares what a lesbian thinks.

[bathwater]

YOURE ALL OF BUNCH OF NAZI BASTARDS. IF YOU ARE SO CONFIDENT THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY 'SAVED' ONES THEN WHY DO YOU SPEND ALL THIS TIME ON MESSAGE BOARDS HATING ON EVERY OTHER RELIGION WITH ONLY THE SLIGHTEST DIFFERENCES FROM YOURS. YOURE TOO IGNORANT TO REALIZE THAT EVERY RELIGION IS VIRTUALLY THE SAME AND YOUR HEADS ARE TOO FAR UP YOUR A$$ES FOR YOU TO REALIZE THAT YOU ARE ALL JUST HUMANS!!! YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE, AND GUESS WHAT. NONE OF YOU ARE GOING TO HEAVEN, AND YOU KNOW IT. YOU ONLY SPEND TIME DEALING WITH THE CHURCH OUT OF FEAR!!!! FEAR OF DEATH. YOU ALL KNOW THAT ONE DAY YOU ARE GOING TO DIE AND YOU ARENT MAN ENOUGH TO FACE THE FACT THAT DEATH IS DEATH. NO HEAVEN NO HELL JUST DEATH.

CYNICAL BASTARDS LIKE YOU ERODE THE VALUE OF LIFE BY BELIEVING THAT THERE IS SOMETHING BETTER AFTERWARDS. YOURE JUST SCARED!! IT DOESNT GET ANY BETTER THAN LIFE. Face the facts.

Do you have to be so selfish to believe that you are the better than everyone and you are saved because you chose the right religion. You are all scum.

[bathwater]

you know why all animals are atheists??


because none of them fear death.

[Wide-Open]

Originally Posted by baphater

CYNICAL BASTARDS LIKE YOU ERODE THE VALUE OF LIFE BY BELIEVING THAT THERE IS SOMETHING BETTER AFTERWARDS. YOURE JUST SCARED!! IT DOESNT GET ANY BETTER THAN LIFE. Face the facts.

See what happened there? Jesus made you find the capslock key.

Judges 3:25
And they tarried till they were ashamed: and, behold, he opened not the doors of the parlour; therefore they took a key, and opened them: and, behold, their lord was fallen down dead on the earth.

[One-eyed Jack]

Bap-hatter: "YOURE TOO IGNORANT TO REALIZE THAT EVERY RELIGION IS VIRTUALLY THE SAME."

Wrong. Religions are fundamentally different.

Christians believe in a single God with three manifestations (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). Christ was divine. Souls survive death and are judged by God.

Jews and Muslims believe in a single God with no subdivisions. Muslims count Christ as a prophet but not the son of God. Souls survive death.

Hindus believe there are many gods, the universe is cyclical, and after death souls are reincarnated as animals or humans.

Buddhists believe there is no god, only the void, and souls are reincarnated.

Shintos believe in nature spirits. People survive death as ghosts.

Confucians believe in ancestor worship, and may adhere to a sort of combined heaven / God concept called Tian.

Obviously religions have very different beliefs about the most fundamental ideas of deities, souls, and afterlife.

Let's say you have a group of physicists -- a Japanese Shinto, a Czechoslovakian Catholic, an Indian Hindu, an Egyptian Muslim, an American Baptist, a Chinese Buddhist, and an Argentinian Jew. They hold very different religious beliefs, speak different languages, and can't even read each other's writing. But if you give them the proper equipment they can each measure the force of gravity...AND, using mathematics, they will all come to very good agreement about the strength of the gravitational field at the Earth's surface.

This indicates that there is a "real" something that they are all measuring. They are investigating objective reality.

Contrast that with religion: independent investigators come to wildly different conclusions about just about every aspect of the supernatural.

Does that indicate that there is nothing "real" that is being measured by those who investigate the supernatural?

You are cordially invited to use this argument against Jehovah's Witlesses, Mormons, Hare Krishnas, and other missionary types who fubble about preying on people's polite instincts. You are invited to beat the piss out of them, logically speaking. Go to town. Leave them traumatized and weeping.

However, the real meaning of this question is that there is only ONE true religion, and all the others are wrong! Wrong, wrong, wrong! As wrong as serving Black Ice fortified beer with roast pheasant and truffles.

And of course the One True Religion is the Baptist True Christian one!

~~ OEJ

[Nobar King]

Originally Posted by One-eyed Jack

However, the real meaning of this question is that there is only ONE true religion, and all the others are wrong! Wrong, wrong, wrong! As wrong as serving Black Ice fortified beer with roast pheasant and truffles.

~~ OEJ

Excellent post brother Jack. I would never serve Black Ice fortified beer with anything other than turkey sandwiches or boiled hot dogs. Besides, I don't want any vitamins in my beer.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by baphater

YOURE ALL OF B... Gibberish...JUST DEATH.

CYNICAL BASTARDS ... vitriol ...LIFE. Face the facts.

Do you have ...illogical conclusion... you chose the right religion. You are all scum.

I regret to inform you that some madman has edited your post, I have taken the liberty of removing the offending words so that your original sentiments may be preserved for posterity

YOURE ALL OF BUNCH OF …CONFIDENT … 'SAVED' ONES. …YOU SPEND ALL THIS TIME ON MESSAGE BOARDS … YOU…REALIZE THAT .. YOUR RELIGION IS … BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSES, AND … YOU ARE GOING TO HEAVEN, AND YOU KNOW IT. YOU ONLY SPEND TIME DEALING WITH THE CHURCH … YOU ALL KNOW THAT ONE DAY YOU ARE GOING TO … HEAVEN NOT HELL.

BELIEVING THAT THERE IS SOMETHING BETTER AFTERWARDS. … IT DOESNT GET ANY BETTER THAN facts.

…you have to … to believe that you are the better than everyone and you are saved because you chose the right religion. …

– thank you for your support of the ideals of Landover, we appreciate it; we do our best

[JennyD]

Originally Posted by bathwater

you know why all animals are atheists??


because none of them fear death.

Really? Back a pit bull in a corner and poke it with a stick. Then come back and, using your remaining hand, let us know whether you think it wants to live or die.

As a precaution, you may wish to leave a note instructing a friend (if you have one) or relative (if you've not been disowned) to come here and post the results in the event of your untimely demise.

Now, no True Christian™ fears death, because we know that when we die, we will join Jesus in Heaven. Does that make us atheists, idiot?

[bathwater]

funny thing is.....I got more responses than any of your posts.

1. How do you know that ANY religion is right?

2. Animals do not fear death because they do not understand death. they fight to protect themselves out of instinct. your argument proves nothing.

3. All religions are virtually the same in the sense that they all believe in a higher force, and none of the differences are really substantial enough for you all to go around name calling because of some subtle difference. The only reason I can see is that deep down youre unsure what religion is really the right one, and thats why you constantly say yours is. to try to solidify that belief maybe because its too hard to maintain. the knowledge of the existence of another religion just dilutes your faith more and you resent them for it. Thats what i think.

4. Whoever edited my post just proves my point even more. You all arent even confident enough in yourselves to laugh at my comment. It got your panties all in a bunch because it hurts your christian ears....because deep down you all know its very possibly true.

5. All you who are spreading libel about other religions and political figures can rot. Thats why I had beef with this forum in the first place. NOT because of your need to believe in a false idol to cope with your fear of death and NOT because you need the security of thinking your are going life happily ever after in heaven. That I have no problem with. Even tho its BS.

[bathwater]

Jenny D you are full of it.

No I have not been disowned, and yes I have plenty of friends and a beautiful girlfriend and actually people come to my desk at work all the time and ask me if id like to go out to lunch.

Fact is this: You DO fear death. I dont care what you say. Every Human does. You cant tell me if i pushed your ass off a building you would just say oh....well time to go to heaven. you be scared as shit. Actually I think youre more scared than most and thats why youre religious. because you cant handle the thought of dying, and after that theres nothing. youre of the type that would rather believe that theres an afterlife even if its not true because it makes you more comfortable. See Im the type that wants to believe the TRUTH no matter what is comfortable.

And as i said. Just because a pitbull fights back doesnt mean it fears death. Its called instinct, just like an ant runs if you try to smush it. You think and ant can comprehend the idea of death? So how could it fear death without even understanding what death is?

[bathwater]

Oh and did I mention? Im a psychologist.

[bathwater]

[quote=Wide-Open;152868]See what happened there? Jesus made you find the capslock key.






Jesus never made anyone do anything. Thats me yelling in your face wise guy.

[bathwater]

anyway not to get off topic.....


I think Landover Baptists are the worst.

We'll maybe not as bad as those folks over east trying to start jihads. but for real look at the topic of this thread. Why are you all so negative all the time. Do you guys ever NOT bitch about the world?