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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-24-2008, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gsdkain
How do "you" know god said it? Maybe the devil wrote the bible to trick you. Maybe god wrote those vile words as a test to see if you would follow through with the vile commands.
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It sounds plausible. God frequently gives people utterly insane commands as a test to see if they'll obey Him. He gets very offended if they don't. Did you know that rebellion is equal to the sin of witchcraft?
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-24-2008, 06:34 PM
I'm not sure but I think any Christian church that teaches from the Bible is really Christian.
Now if you look at roman-catholics, they have alot of things that they like to add to their religion, which has nothing to do with the Bible.
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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-24-2008, 06:41 PM
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OK thanks, that explains it. I have read a cartoon, therefore it is true.
You do realise the bible is a strawman right?
These are the same people who thought the earth was flat and lightening was thunderbolts from gods bum.
I suppose the devil put the dinosaur bones in the earth too, right?
Oh and I find it funny that I get an infraction for saying the obscene word for excrement, but people can be racist with no problems.
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LSD, the Bible is God's Word. How can God's Word be a straw man? Do you even know what the term "straw man" means? http://www.fallacyfiles.org/strawman.html
Dinosaurs drowned in the Flood, and were fossilized in the layers of silt left behind when the waters receded. Everybody knows that! Didn't you go to school?
Bible boring? Nonsense!
Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!
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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-26-2008, 11:11 AM
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It sounds plausible. God frequently gives people utterly insane commands as a test to see if they'll obey Him. He gets very offended if they don't. Did you know that rebellion is equal to the sin of witchcraft?
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No I didn't know that about rebellion. Sure that's not a way to control you? The ultimate test would be to risk eternal damnation from god by disobeying his order to, for instance, offer a son up for scarifice(what was that story, or is it a catholic thing?). If heaven is the paradise it's meant to be, that would be the ultimate test for entry, then god would know how true you were to yourself and your beliefs, to put "nothing" ahead of doing what is right.
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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-26-2008, 11:22 AM
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No I didn't know that about rebellion. Sure that's not a way to control you? The ultimate test would be to risk eternal damnation from god by disobeying his order to, for instance, offer a son up for scarifice(what was that story, or is it a catholic thing?). If heaven is the paradise it's meant to be, that would be the ultimate test for entry, then god would know how true you were to yourself and your beliefs, to put "nothing" ahead of doing what is right.
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God has already done this. These verses are from the Book of Judges.
(Basically, Jephthah vows to the Lord that if he is granted victory in battle, he will sacrifice to the Lord whatever comes out of his house first on his return. His young daughter comes out the house first and he sacrifices her. This shows that if you vow before The Lord, you MUST keep your vow.)
J'g:11:30: And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands,
J'g:11:31: Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.
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J'g:11:33: And he smote them from Aroer, even till thou come to Minnith, even twenty cities, and unto the plain of the vineyards, with a very great slaughter. Thus the children of Ammon were subdued before the children of Israel.
J'g:11:34: And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child; beside her he had neither son nor daughter.
J'g:11:35: And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back.
J'g:11:36: And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the LORD, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth; forasmuch as the LORD hath taken vengeance for thee of thine enemies, even of the children of Ammon.
J'g:11:37: And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows.
J'g:11:38: And he said, Go. And he sent her away for two months: and she went with her companions, and bewailed her virginity upon the mountains.
J'g:11:39: And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel,
J'g:11:40: That the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.
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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-26-2008, 11:23 AM
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LSD, the Bible is God's Word. How can God's Word be a straw man? Do you even know what the term "straw man" means? http://www.fallacyfiles.org/strawman.html
Dinosaurs drowned in the Flood, and were fossilized in the layers of silt left behind when the waters receded. Everybody knows that! Didn't you go to school?
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Yes I do know what a straw man is. Wasn't the right term to use, but I think you get my point.
I did go to school, but it was a "special" school, you know the one that teaches as best it can facts and things that are known to be true. The only time I was taught religion at school was when I was in and upto year 3 or 4, at about 8 or 9 years of age. It didn't make any more sense then either.
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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-26-2008, 11:27 AM
^^^
Maybe red herring is a better term.
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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-26-2008, 11:28 AM
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^^^
Maybe red herring is a better term.
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How old are you son? American isn't your first language, is it...
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-26-2008, 11:53 AM
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How old are you son? American isn't your first language, is it...
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No American isn't my first language. I'd say I'm older than you by the look of your avatar. Definitions of red herring below, it is commonly known to mean a trick or diversion, bird, or name of a prospectus.
any diversion intended to distract attention from the main issue
A FALSE clue which points the reader onto the wrong trail and puts off solving the mystery.
a dried and smoked herring having a reddish color
preliminary prospectus: a first draft of a prospectus; must be clearly marked to indicate that parts may be changed in the final prospectus; "because some portions of the cover page are printed in red ink a preliminary prospectus is sometimes called a red herring"
a dried and smoked herring having a reddish color
Definitions of straw man
front man: a person used as a cover for some questionable activity
a weak or sham argument set up to be easily refuted
scarecrow: an effigy in the shape of a man to frighten birds away from seeds
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw man argument" is to describe a position that superficially resembles an opponent's actual view but is easier to refute, then attribute that position to ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw man
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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-26-2008, 11:54 AM
I ask again; How old are you and what Godless country do you hail from?
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-26-2008, 11:56 AM
Those definitions are from typing "define: straw man" and "define: red herring" into google search engine
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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-26-2008, 12:03 PM
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I ask again; How old are you and what Godless country do you hail from?
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I hail from the lucky country. I'm old enough to get in trouble, but young enough to recover relatively quickly.
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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-26-2008, 12:22 PM
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I hail from the lucky country. I'm old enough to get in trouble, but young enough to recover relatively quickly.
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Well you clearly were'nt lucky enough to have been blessed by God and born in His favorite country (America). And you won't recover from the etrnal damnation that awaits you in hell if you don't repent and accept Christ as your Personal Savior.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-26-2008, 01:08 PM
Sorry I can get a bit intolerant with things I disagree with.
What do you think a child would define the word "born" as?
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Re: Are baptists the only true christians? -
09-27-2008, 12:41 PM
Any deity that would require me to kill someone I love in order to prove my love/loyalty to him/her it, can go piffle him/her/itself. It's worthy of contempt, not worship.
Now that Obama has won the election there will be big black cock for every white woman!!!
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09-27-2008, 12:44 PM
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Any deity that would require me to kill someone I love in order to prove my love/loyalty to him/her it, can go piffle him/her/itself. It's worthy of contempt, not worship.
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And yet you worship satan on a daily basis.
Lie much?
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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