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Default Re: Health - 10-12-2011, 09:28 AM

I would caution you, though, that you should not gravitate toward me simply because you like my answers or I don't make you uncomfortable. Redeemed Papist is a True Christian™ you see, while I am merely an Honorary True Christian™.

What this means is that Redeemed Papist has, through the grace of God and through much faith and diligence on his part, achieved a level of wisdom and Biblical understanding far greater than I possess.

Do not shrink away when a True Christian™ makes statements that you find challenging, or that take you way outside your comfort zone!

After all, pressure makes diamonds, and you've got to break a few eggs if you want to make an omelete!


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What Mitza said was very unnecessary, and I interpreted it as racism
oops, I wasn't very clear was I. They're not heathen because they're Australian. They're heathen because they don't believe in God.

The concept of heathens comes from Him:

link JEREMIAH 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

and in the rest of the chapter (click link) He describes some of their failings in more detail.
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If you say all it means all does it not? Can you just stop trolling me with your bestiality issue for one second, it makes me think you are obsessed with them in an unhealthy way.
Took you long enough to convince us you oppose those acts, but your understanding of God's favorite language is obviously off.

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Depends on one's own interpretation of the messages in the bible.
Friend, Jesus has JUST ONE interpretation of the Bible, not even two. Those who disagree with it will be in Hell.

"Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment." (I Cor. 1:10)

"As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." (2 Peter 3:16)


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I just think that some of the actions in the old testament are taken too literally.
My good man, you are starting to sound like an infidel who doubts the literal truth of the Bible. At LANDOVER BAPTIST, we believe the Bible to the letter.


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The Tower of Babel, the Garden of Eden... Not enough is filled in to be factual evidence.
Well looky here, another infidel remark of some doubter who believes we should categorize the Bible into "literal" vs. "figurative" passages. I'm not surprised.

Friend, all of those things are literal as the alphabet.

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I can't take creationism seriously because I was brought up in a scientific household.
So your infidel parents hate God and the Bible and spit on it and teach you to do the same and YOU just can't find it in yourself to part ways with them? Shame, shame.

"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called." (1 Timothy 6:20)

"9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds." (2 John 9-11)

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It's like the idea that the earth is flat, I can't accept it as it is impossible for me to grasp. It's suggesting that the earth has no core, no electromagnetic field. What if you drilled a hole through the bottom and you fell through, you would be in space would you not? Why does the horizon disappear when you are on a mountain? Would you not be able to see all the kingdoms of earth? And can someone find a flat earth bible reference, I've been looking and the only one I found was in Matthew 4:8, and that wasn't even suggesting it was flat, more that the area they were in was rather small.
Look harder. The earth is flat. See 1 Samuel 2:8: "He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them."

See also Job 9:6


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I don't want any tosser remarks like that bestiality stuff.
Well, it took you long enough to make clear your position, didn't it? Be clear and things will go better. We don't tolerate blasphemy.



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Default Re: Health - 10-12-2011, 10:17 PM

You talk of pillars, do pillars not also hold up spherical objects or even perhaps a globe? Or are you too narrow-minded to realize that pillars can be used for multiple things?

And Jesus contradicts 'an eye for an eye', so you are telling me you would hit but not hit a person who does you wrong? The whole of Matthew 5 Jesus makes amendments to his father's work. There is even one on how divorce and remarriage is an act of adultery in Jesus' eyes.

The bible NEVER tells us when the earth was truly created, aside from a genealogy that is questionable as it brings up the question of 'did they have children through incest?' A person 300 years ago just up and decided that 4004 BC was when the earth was created. That is NOT in the bible, but you all seem to take it so literally that it could make you commit suicide.
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And Jesus contradicts 'an eye for an eye', so you are telling me you would hit but not hit a person who does you wrong?
If somebody does me wrong, I am commanded to forgive them. If somebody does wrong by God, however, I will happily hit them, because that is what God says I should do.

For example, if I caught you touching Mount Sinai, I would stone you:

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12And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death:
If you took an accursed thing, I would not only stone you, but also set you on fire (see Joshua 7:1-26).

If you committed adultery, or if you failed to scream loudly enough when you were being raped, because you were secretly enjoying it, I would stone you (see Deuteronomy 22:23-24).

In the case of adultery, you see, the aggrieved party is not your spouse; it is the Lord.


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Default Re: Health - 10-12-2011, 10:39 PM

I don't agree with the rape thing... What if you are kidnapped and taken into the forest or something, you could scream as loud as you want and the general population could not hear you. If the person hated it, would you stone them? I can't imagine so, you would stone the rapist would you not?
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I don't agree with the rape thing... What if you are kidnapped and taken into the forest or something, you could scream as loud as you want and the general population could not hear you. If the person hated it, would you stone them? I can't imagine so, you would stone the rapist would you not?
No, I would demand that the rapist marry his "victim" and pay her father fifty shekels, in accordance with God's law.

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28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.


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Default Re: Health - 10-13-2011, 01:10 AM

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You talk of pillars, do pillars not also hold up spherical objects or even perhaps a globe? Or are you too narrow-minded to realize that pillars can be used for multiple things?

The bible NEVER tells us when the earth was truly created, aside from a genealogy that is questionable as it brings up the question of 'did they have children through incest?' A person 300 years ago just up and decided that 4004 BC was when the earth was created. That is NOT in the bible, but you all seem to take it so literally that it could make you commit suicide.
Can I get an opinion on this.
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Default Re: Health - 10-13-2011, 02:41 AM

Scientific studies (often of dubious value when attempting to prove biblical facts) have come to a conclusion on Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

It is identical to Stereopodigism. That is when the iron in your blood turns to lead and you do not want to get off your ass. I kindly suggest you seek out a doctor who knows about Stereopodisim, they are hard to find but they are out there.

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Can I get an opinion on this.
It's utter nonsense.

But it's ok, boy. Go the way of science. After all, you've seen those pretty photos "of earth" from NASA and believe them over the Bible when you've already answered your own argument from Matthew 4. If Jesus were taken up on a high mountain and shown "all the kingdoms" of the earth, the earth had to be flat.

So which is it going to be? Satan and a round earth or God and a flat earth?



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Coeliac disease, allergies, migraines, unable to absorb certain B vitamins from food and postural hypotension. And chronic fatigue is a diagnosis of un-diagnosis, meaning they don't know why your the way you are, but you are that way. That's how it was explained to me at least.
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Default Re: Health - 10-13-2011, 05:38 AM

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It's utter nonsense.

But it's ok, boy. Go the way of science. After all, you've seen those pretty photos "of earth" from NASA and believe them over the Bible when you've already answered your own argument from Matthew 4. If Jesus were taken up on a high mountain and shown "all the kingdoms" of the earth, the earth had to be flat.

So which is it going to be? Satan and a round earth or God and a flat earth?
What kingdoms would have made up the earth at that period of time? Tell me how far the kingdoms were apart, and did it include America? Look up a history book and TELL ME what kingdoms would Jesus have seen, and then I will leave. Use the bible, I mean it has all of the promised land in it. Maybe that is what Jesus was shown. It isn't hard, History backs up everything in the middle-east during that time.
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What part of "all the kingdoms" don't you understand? If a kingdom existed, Jesus saw it.


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Default Re: Health - 10-13-2011, 06:03 AM

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What part of "all the kingdoms" don't you understand? If a kingdom existed, Jesus saw it.
But despite professing to follow scientific method in actual fact he's doing what all secularists do. He's approaching the evidence with a preconceived idea then discarding anything he sees that contradicts what he already believes to be true. Either that or creatively re-interpreting what's there if someone won't let him bury it because they've seen it too.

We know God exists. The Bible backs that up and explains everything so even a child can understand. If silly measurements made by scientists contradict that then it just shows how imperfect we are at fathoming God's works. Why must they twist reality and follow a conspiracy of lies? It's so hateful.



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What kingdoms would have made up the earth at that period of time? Tell me how far the kingdoms were apart, and did it include America?
The Bible clearly says all the kingdoms of the earth, so yes.

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Look up a history book and TELL ME what kingdoms would Jesus have seen, and then I will leave.
Matthew 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

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Use the bible, I mean it has all of the promised land in it. Maybe that is what Jesus was shown. It isn't hard, History backs up everything in the middle-east during that time.
All the promised land is

Genesis 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:


That is all the territory from Iran to the Nile in Egypt.



I don't understand what you mean by Satan could have been showing Jesus the Promised Land. The Bible says the entire world.
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What kingdoms would have made up the earth at that period of time? Tell me how far the kingdoms were apart, and did it include America? Look up a history book and TELL ME what kingdoms would Jesus have seen, and then I will leave. Use the bible, I mean it has all of the promised land in it. Maybe that is what Jesus was shown.
Fag, all means all. The inspired writer wanted to convey that Jesus was tempted by seeing kingdoms he didn't have, but the PROMISED LAND was of GOD! He had that! That wouldn't have been much of a temptation, now, would it?

I think Zeke's right. You're a coffee mug-holding fag who comes into the office with a limp wrist who sniffles and hum-drums around the water cooler with liberal views on the Bible without ever accepting it for truth or being willing to throw off the tirade of nonsense resting in your conflicted, homer brain. Hell awaits fags.



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I'm posting here to ask what your thoughts are on ailments, and if you have a previous thread on it could you link it to me? Thank you.
Lemme tell you sumpthin bout what ailed ole Cleevon. He be havin the worst gas pains and stinks comin out of his behind end.
The good folks here at the Landover had to make a whole new outside prayer and praisin section way BEHIND the colored section and Lawd knows thats bout a half mile from the church to begin wif....the smell an noise was THAT bad.
What was you askin agin? It was bout flatuations weren't it?


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The bible NEVER tells us when the earth was truly created, aside from a genealogy that is questionable as it brings up the question of 'did they have children through incest?' A person 300 years ago just up and decided that 4004 BC was when the earth was created. That is NOT in the bible, but you all seem to take it so literally that it could make you commit suicide.
I am not a True Scientist™ and this question has never been of great value for me personaly, but if Earth is 6000 or 7000 or even 8000 years old.
What difference does it make?

The Evilutionists talks about billions of years.


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Default Re: Health - 10-13-2011, 10:58 PM

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Are you saying the genealogies are somehow corrupted? The Bible puts it like this:

Psalm 119:140 Thy word is very pure: therefore thy seruant loueth it.
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You seem to be saying something different.

As far as pillars are concerned of course they might hold up any shaped object, square, round, egg-shaped, okapi shaped, tetrahedron


I suppose you could list every shape earth's pillars are not holding up but it would be a long list so we usually just say they're holding up the earth. There are also pillars of heaven and in this example God advises us that beams are incorporated into the structure.

PSALM 104
1 Blesse the Lord, O my soule, O Lord my God, thou art very great: thou art clothed with honour and maiestie.
2 Who couerest thy selfe with light, as with a garment: who stretchest out the heauens like a curtaine.
3 Who layeth the beames of his chambers in the waters, who maketh the cloudes his charet: who walketh vpon the wings of the wind.
4 Who maketh his Angels spirits: his ministers a flaming fire.
5 Who laid the foundations of the earth: that it should not be remoued for euer.

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Getting back to your genealogies - they are a reliable dating system, provided the records are kept accurately which in this case they have been.

I CHRONICLES 5
17 All these were reckoned by genealogies in the dayes of Iotham king of Iudah, and in the dayes of Zeroboam king of Israel.
18 The sonnes of Reuben, and the Gadites, and halfe the tribe of Manasseh, of valiant men, men able to beare buckler and sword, and to shoote with bow, and skilfull in warre, were foure and fourtie thousand, seuen hundred and threescore, that went out to the warre.
19 And they made warre with the Hagarites, with Ietur, and Nephish, and Nodab.
20 And they were helped against them, and the Hagarites were deliuered into their hand, and all that were with them: for they cried to God in the battell, and he was intreated of them, because they put their trust in him.
21 And they tooke away their cattell: of their camels fiftie thousand, and of sheepe two hundred and fiftie thousand, and of asses two thousand, and of men an hundred thousand.

22a For there fell downe many slaine, because the warre was of God.
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But that is all they are. They are not "magic" or anything and God is clear that it's wrong to obsess over them:

TITUS 3:9 But auoyd foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and striuings about the lawe; for they are vnprofitable and vaine.
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You could work it out the other way, by adding up the days of their lives starting with Genesis 5:5 and working forward. The answer would be the same.
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