[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

The longest war in US history seems to be wrapping up in Afghanistan. After a promising start with George W Bush declaring mission accomplished, followed by Trump killing Osama bin Laden and delivering the MOAB (mother of all bombs), it seems that inexplicably Joe Biden has managed to seize defeat out of the jaws of victory.

State capitals have been overrun by armed militias. Religious extremists have taken over State functions. Voting rights have been curtailed. It's only a matter of time before a theocracy is installed, and the prophesies of the Bible are fulfilled Hallelujah!

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Originally Posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole

It's only a matter of time before a theocracy is installed, and the prophesies of the Bible are fulfilled Hallelujah!

I know, Brother Dr. Toole, Sir - and just when we thought Biden couldn't get anything right! Okay, it was unintentional and perhaps may not lead to the sort of theocracy that God would have chosen, in which case he He will surely be displeased. But one thing leads to another and if the year 2021 has taught us nothing else, it has taught us that with optimism we may possibly prevail, eventually.

[Johny Joe Hold]

What disappoints me about Biden losing Afghanistan is the religious aspect. There we were, guns, bombs and drones, ready to stamp out Islam and require Christianity, and Biden leaves. How will we convert all those Muslims if we have no guns in the country?

Can the Republicans in the Senate and House reverse this thing and get the religious conversion back on track? It seems imperative we stay there and fight for Jesus.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Call me a hopeless optimist, Brothers, but perhaps we should remember what the Italians used to say: Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat (when God wants to destroy you, first he drives you crazy).

It looks to me as though He has done this to both Biden and the Mooslims and I await developments.

[Basilissa]

Isn't this what the liberals wanted all along, though? Let the natives be natives, and let's celebrate their native traditions when they shoot girls for being outside without a male chaperone present (or because her burka was too tight). That's the liberals' dream!

[Dennis Lukes]

Originally Posted by Basilissa

Isn't this what the liberals wanted all along, though? Let the natives be natives, and let's celebrate their native traditions when they shoot girls for being outside without a male chaperone present (or because her burka was too tight). That's the liberals' dream!

Of course. Women's rights is a Western imperialist ideology. Imposing it on blacks and brownies is racist and colonialist. Conversely, foreigners adopting feminist ideas are engaging in cultural appropriation and are basically just being Uncle Toms. But if a white Christian man does what an Afghan man does, he's an evil Nazi who should be gassed to death in a cancellation camp.


Or so the Democrats believe. Life is so much simpler when you just defer to Jesus on everything. Thank God for the Holy Bible!

[WWJDnow]

Originally Posted by Joanna Lytton-Vasey

Call me a hopeless optimist, Brothers, but perhaps we should remember what the Italians used to say: Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat (when God wants to destroy you, first he drives you crazy).

It looks to me as though He has done this to both Biden and the Mooslims and I await developments.

You make an excellent point, Sister, but would you please refrain from using that demonic talk in the future? Every time someone repeats a Catholic saying in Latin, an angel gets its wings ripped off.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Originally Posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole

The longest war in US history seems to be wrapping up in Afghanistan. After a promising start with George W Bush declaring mission accomplished, followed by Trump killing Osama bin Laden and delivering the MOAB (mother of all bombs), it seems that inexplicably Joe Biden has managed to seize defeat out of the jaws of victory.

State capitals have been overrun by armed militias. Religious extremists have taken over State functions. Voting rights have been curtailed. It's only a matter of time before a theocracy is installed, and the prophesies of the Bible are fulfilled Hallelujah!

A couple of minor points here Dr. Toole, from your otherwise acute observations.

1. Trump did not kill Osama bin Laden, Obama did - at least it happened on his watch so he gets the credit (and it indeed pains me to say that).

Osama bin Laden allegedly had a large porn collection, but we never were made aware of what happened to it.

2. Trump did use the MOAB in Afghanistan to wipe out ISIS, but they were small and just getting started there after causing much more trouble in the Middle East (Syria). Afghanistan was much more Taliban territory as far as our enemies were concerned.

3. Obama wasn't much concerned about the rise of ISIS - once calling them the "JV" team. Trump was mainly concerned with wiping out ISIS in Syria before our withdrawl there - which he did. However, when dealing with mooselimbs there is more than one flavor and the goal is to make them fight with each other first and then wipe out the victor.

4. I don't know why George W. Bush didn't put Ann Coulter in charge of converting the mooselimbs, but then again you have to remember that we did have 8 years of Obama and still nothing was done. One does have to consider that many thought that Obama was mooselimb.

Finally,

1. This Afgan mire was started by Jimmy Carter financing Osama bin Laden and Al Queda against the Russians - and to the casual observer why would anyone not let the Russians have it.

2. The Taliban comes out of Pakistan (a British idea) - give the mooselimbs (the "religion of peace") their own country to keep them from causing trouble in India (Gandhi, the "nonviolence" guy, believed in religious pluralism).

3. We did train and provided arms to the Afghan military, but they don't seem to see much difference with Taliban mooselimbism and their own version to care much.

4. Jimmy Carter no longer has to worry about being the worst US president, Obama has taken the title.

5. Obama recently celebrated his 70th birthday with a bash, and no doubt also celebrated that he no longer is the worst US president - passing the honor along to Joe Biden.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Originally Posted by WilliamJenningsBryan

1. Trump did not kill Osama bin Laden, Obama did - at least it happened on his watch so he gets the credit (and it indeed pains me to say that).

Respectfully, we'll have to agree to disagree about that.

2. Trump did use the MOAB in Afghanistan to wipe out ISIS, but they were small and just getting started there after causing much more trouble in the Middle East (Syria). Afghanistan was much more Taliban territory as far as our enemies were concerned.

I'll concede there may be a difference between one type of terrorist and another but they all look the same to me.

3. [W]hen dealing with mooselimbs there is more than one flavor and the goal is to make them fight with each other first and then wipe out the victor.

That sounds like a plan. But it's the Russians' turn, or China, or Britain now they are global again. We did out part and it only took 4 years after Bush and Obama bungled it so badly.

4. [Y]ou have to remember that we did have 8 years of Obama and still nothing was done. One does have to consider that many thought that Obama was mooselimb.

Yes - and Bush.

It's great to have some serious geopolitical debate. After 4 years of Sleepy Corrupt Joe (or just a couple days if Mr. Pillowhead can deliver), Mr. Trump will sweep to power with a mandate to secure a permanent solution to the Middle East instead of hand-wringing from Jared

[Johny Joe Hold]

Originally Posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole

Respectfully, we'll have to agree to disagree about that.

I'll concede there may be a difference between one type of terrorist and another but they all look the same to me.

That sounds like a plan. But it's the Russians' turn, or China, or Britain now they are global again. We did out part and it only took 4 years after Bush and Obama bungled it so badly.

Yes - and Bush.

It's great to have some serious geopolitical debate. After 4 years of Sleepy Corrupt Joe (or just a couple days if Mr. Pillowhead can deliver), Mr. Trump will sweep to power with a mandate to secure a permanent solution to the Middle East instead of hand-wringing from Jared

I'm with Dr. Tooley on who killed Bennolawden. I recall it was Trump.

[MitzaLizalor]

How long did Pakistan last before declaring war on itself?

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold

I'm with Dr. Tooley on who killed Bennolawden. I recall it was Trump.

Ok then, you would think it would be a simple matter to settle a question of "history" - Google "who killed Osama bin Laden".

The first thing that shows up is the Godly Navy Seals (Ooh-Rah!) - the year is 2011 when Obama was still POTUS.

The next notable thing that shows up is a Tweet by Donald Trump (wasn't even running for POTUS at the time) claiming that it was Osama bin Laden's "double" that was killed by Obama's Navy SEAL team. While not exactly on this timeline, slow Joe Biden (Obama's Vice President in 2011) was quoted by a source as having been on record as against the killing of Osama bin Laden.

Of course the MSM treated Trump's "Tweet" as deranged, but a real "journalist" would have asked for evidence from a DNA test to settle the matter - which never happened.

The next thing we learn is that Noor bin Laden, Osama bin Laden's niece, had managed to escape from Saudi Arabia to Switzerland and has become an avid Trump supporter. Noor bin Laden was noted as protesting at the recent Biden-Putin summit in Geneva by displaying a large "Trump Won" banner.

While things appear to still be a bit murky in this matter, at thing point given the preponderance of evidence, I'm willing to concede that Trump indeed needs to be credited with killing the "real" Osama bin Laden.


Come to think of it, I don't recall hearing of any sightings of Osama bin Laden since Trump took office in 2017. I can't say the same for Elvis.

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by WilliamJenningsBryan

2. The Taliban comes out of Pakistan (a British idea) - give the mooselimbs (the "religion of peace") their own country to keep them from causing trouble in India

Unfortunately "their own country" came in eastern and western configurations. Although universal suffrage is not Biblically endorsed, it had emerged in India and became the standard in Pakistan too. I almost said "the accepted norm" but it wasn't accepted, was not the norm and went straight out the window at an early opportunity. In the scheme of things, that is a very minor detail. In its first twenty years the embryonic nation managed to

1. junk the constitution

2. set up an islamic republic

3. stage a military coup

4. the obligatory crackdown

5. yet another constitution, essentially
5a. pronouncing the crackdown lawful
5b. somewhere in here the franchise was neutered

6. a surprise uprising

7. presidency hijacked

8. martial law (bit past the 20 year mark here)

9. emergence of a "People's Party"

10. junta

11. "election" results rejected (i.e. ignored)

12. civil disobedience

13. war of liberation

14. genocide

so off to a good start and for maniacs the des res of south Asia. East Pakistan applied to join the 3rd world and were fast-tracked for acceptance. That should read "The Former" East Pakistan but all The Formers are virtually identical except a few in Central Europe better referred to as the former The Former [whatever they were before the commies took over] so really they've just become what they were in the first place.

Such a zingy ideology is very appealing to idealogues of one's own ilk, especially those of a more militant stripe and that's what was exported to Afghanistan. N.B. "More militant" in this context means with even greater assiduity than the fourteen point plan outlined above.

It's no surprise that merciless exterminators of the benefactors who made them rich would opt for headquarters in these regimes and easy to enough to find. One of their lies is that military excursions (by the benefactors) were to "get the oil" but if the benefactors were not buying it already, the merciless exterminators wouldn't have any resources to mercilessly exterminate. Benefactor nations still have to buy the oil, occasionally bartering other commodities which is even more inconvenient than cash, as well as paying for the "war" to the tune of trillions (extra) but the commie influence runs deep and once red, how difficult it is to dislodge the Marxist agenda.

There is only one solution: Christ Jesus. Our prayer today for Afghanistan is the same as Paul's for the Corinthians, knowing that even where MOABs can't bring reconciliation, prayer will always get through.

II Corinthians 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

The UK defence secretary, Ben Wallace, has just said "US withdrawal from Afghanistan a mistake". Well, duh, Joe Biden. However when asked if he would be sending his own children to save Afghanistan in place of American ones, the UK defence secretary said "the UK had no choice but to pull troops out". Gee thanks Ben.

[MitzaLizalor]

If they make it as hard to get out as is claimed by their version of missionaries, spreading peace in the usual way, there won't be much need of a military presence. They do such a good job themselves. Could similar conditions be encouraged in other areas? Syria and Yemen have both rejected Christ and Turkey never paid attention to begin with. What with the sufis and the other two it's Bermuda triangles all 'round!

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

There is only one solution: Christ Jesus. Our prayer today for Afghanistan is the same as Paul's for the Corinthians, knowing that even where MOABs can't bring reconciliation, prayer will always get through.

That's very kind of you, Sister. Our thoughts and prayers will go a long way to ease the Afghan people's suffering.

[handmaiden]

Yet another excuse bandied about by feckless Democrats. Will they ever take responsibility for anything? I can't believe that Obama wasn't impeached for his mismanagement of the Katrina response.

@GeorgeTakei


Blaming Biden for Afghanistan is like blaming him for Covid-19. It’s a disaster he inherited, and to get us out of it was always going to be difficult and heartbreaking. Critics will point fingers over mistakes made in that process, but we should remember how it all started.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Originally Posted by handmaiden

I can't believe that Obama wasn't impeached for his mismanagement of the Katrina response.

Not to mention his Death Panels. If you read the lamestream media you wouldn't even know they exist!

[Johny Joe Hold]

On the current mismanaged evacuation of Kabul, think of how well it would have been managed if Trump were President. It would have been a beautiful evacuation.

He likes the word "beautiful" and that's what we would see today.

[Isabella White]

Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold

On the current mismanaged evacuation of Kabul, think of how well it would have been managed if Trump were President. It would have been a beautiful evacuation.

He likes the word "beautiful" and that's what we would see today.

Oh, absolutely so, dear Brother Mayor Hold! If our beloved President Trump were still in the White House, then this travesty would not have happened. Not-my-President Joe Burden has made the the laughing stock of the entire world — as noted by none other than Franklin Graham:

"The blood of this nation will be on the hands of the Biden/Harris administration. And on top of these tragedies—how can any country in the world trust America now? Our enemies are laughing at us. May God have mercy on the United States of America."
"Do you miss President Trump yet? I do."

https://www.wnd.com/2021/08/franklin...s-laughing-us/

Why, the Afghanistan people are so desperate to get away from Joe Burden's botch-up (and abysmal failure at leadership), that they will use any means to escape their country! I am sure that it comes as no surprise to anybody that this would never have happened during President Trump's day!