[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

I don't believe in the boogieman because I've never seen him and there is no factual evidence of him.

Don't worry Satan still believes in you and fully supports your liberal Jew philosophy

[JohnGerkoff]

Originally Posted by Dec Abdiel Mordecai

Don't worry Satan still believes in you and fully supports your liberal Jew philosophy

Atheist most likely points to the fact that I'm not Jewish or believe in Satan for that matter.

[JohnGerkoff]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

So, none.



And no proof it doesn't. Just because you keep repeating the same thing does not make it true.





But until evidence is acquired, one is NOT knowledgeable. Cart, horse...

When are you going to learn that making claims without any evidence to back them up just makes you look stupid?



Says the guy who hasn't realized he's talking to an atheist.

Most people pick up on the "Arrogant Atheist Dick" label beside my name, or the "hellbound heathen", "evilution"[sic], "atheist", etc., awards the True Christians™ have been nice enough to give me. You, not so much, huh?

So how well has insulting people (while knowing nothing about them) worked in converting them to your point of view so far?

1.) Repeat means to tell again, and I never quoted something I said in order to provide a feeling of emphasis or for any other reason.
2.) You might want to read that definition again, bud. It doesn't say that you must have evidence it says that you must be intelligent and well informed.
3.) I noticed you were an atheist a while back, and made no claim saying that you were not.

Also, I should mention that no evidence was provided for anyones claim, whether it was idiotic or not.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

1.) Repeat means to tell again, and I never quoted something I said in order to provide a feeling of emphasis or for any other reason...

Um...

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

...hell doesn't exist...

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

...Neither hell or heaven exists...

Yeah.

...2.) You might want to read that definition again, bud. It doesn't say that you must have evidence it says that you must be intelligent and well informed...

No, it says, "possessing or exhibiting knowledge, insight, or understanding; intelligent; well-informed; discerning; perceptive."

If you feel justified ignoring the bolded bits, then I'm justified in ignoring the rest, and also justified in ignoring any definition of any word, and using them as I see fit, and if that causes problems when communicating with others, well, that's just proof of their stupidity.

Sucks when people throw your own shit back at you, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

...so the knowledgeable thing to do is to find evidence...

If you're already "well informed", why would you then go look for evidence? Cart and horse.

...3.) I noticed you were an atheist a while back, and made no claim saying that you were not...

Aside from lumping me in with "you people", when I'm quite obviously not one of them:

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

...Blimey, you people are thick aren't you?

...Also, I should mention that no evidence was provided for anyones claim...

Their evidence:

Your evidence (despite being repeatedly asked to provide it): 0.

So who's winning?

[JohnGerkoff]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

Um...





Yeah.



No, it says, "possessing or exhibiting knowledge, insight, or understanding; intelligent; well-informed; discerning; perceptive."

If you feel justified ignoring the bolded bits, then I'm justified in ignoring the rest, and also justified in ignoring any definition of any word, and using them as I see fit, and if that causes problems when communicating with others, well, that's just proof of their stupidity.

Sucks when people throw your own shit back at you, doesn't it?



If you're already "well informed", why would you then go look for evidence? Cart and horse.



Aside from lumping me in with "you people", when I'm quite obviously not one of them:





Their evidence:

Your evidence (despite being repeatedly asked to provide it): 0.

So who's winning?

1.)knowl·edge·a·ble
/ˈnälijəbəl/
Adjective
Intelligent and well informed.
Synonyms
well-informed - knowing

2.) There is no 100% percent God exists or doesn't exists, and I admit that, my argument that if there is not evidence that something exists, the rational thing to do is disbelieve it.

3.) Once again, I never specifically targeted you, you fashioned yourself into that lump of folks in your own mind.

4.) There evidence isn't evidence, it's pointing at a book made thousands of years ago. I could just as easily say read: "The God Delusion" but that's not evidence that he doesn't exist either.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

...4.) There evidence isn't evidence, it's pointing at a book made thousands of years ago...

ev·i·dence [ev-i-duhns] Show IPA noun, verb, ev·i·denced, ev·i·denc·ing.
noun
1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.
2. something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign: His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever.
3. Law. data presented to a court or jury in proof of the facts in issue and which may include the testimony of witnesses, records, documents, or objects.
from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evidence

*sigh* It's evidence, whether you accept it or not.

Definitions of words ARE NOT UP TO YOU. Even if you learn nothing else here, please absorb that.

[Pim Pendergast]

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

Nah, man. Neither hell or heaven exists. You seem to forget that when you die, your brain stops working; therefor you can no longer process information.

We know hell exists because Jesus tells us so.

Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

We know heaven exists because Jesus would have told us if it didn't.

Jn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

[JohnGerkoff]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

*sigh* It's evidence, whether you accept it or not.

Definitions of words ARE NOT UP TO YOU. Even if you learn nothing else here, please absorb that.

So you are saying that the bible is evidence that God exists? Because I'm saying it's not.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

So you are saying that the bible is evidence that God exists? Because I'm saying it's not.

Wow, what a compelling argument.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

So you are saying that the bible is evidence that God exists? Because I'm saying it's not.

Is English your first language?



By the dictionary definition, it IS evidence. Whether you accept it as proof, is another question entirely.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

So you are saying that the bible is evidence that God exists? Because I'm saying it's not.

Just where do you get off trying to redefine the Bible?

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Dr Laurence Niles

Just where do you get off trying to redefine the Bible?

JohnGerkoff soon he'll make it to arthropod

"O Oysters, come and walk with us!"
The Walrus did beseech.
"A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk,
Along the briny beach:
We cannot do with more than four,
To give a hand to each."

The eldest Oyster looked at him,
But never a word he said:
The eldest Oyster winked his eye,
And shook his heavy head--
Meaning to say he did not choose
To leave the oyster-bed.

But four young Oysters hurried up,
All eager for the treat:
Their coats were brushed, their faces washed,
Their shoes were clean and neat--
And this was odd, because, you know,
They hadn't any feet.

OK, OK, mollusc.

[JohnGerkoff]

Originally Posted by Pim Pendergast

We know hell exists because Jesus tells us so.

Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

We know heaven exists because Jesus would have told us if it didn't.

Jn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Someone saying something exists isn't evidence. Someone saying someone said something is not evidence either.

[JohnGerkoff]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

Is English your first language?



By the dictionary definition, it IS evidence. Whether you accept it as proof, is another question entirely.

By dictionary definition, fiction is not evidence. The bible is real.

[JohnGerkoff]

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

By dictionary definition, fiction is not evidence. The bible is real.

The idiots who run this forum exchange out the word fiction_al for real so they can attempt win arguments. But that statement is still correct, the bible is real, but most of it's contents have been proven false. (It also attempted to change moro_n to mormon.)

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

Someone saying something exists isn't evidence.

Yes it is.

Someone saying someone said something is not evidence either

That's not.

[Pim Pendergast]

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

Someone saying something exists isn't evidence. Someone saying someone said something is not evidence either.

According to the Bible, the word of two or three witnesses is enough to establish the truth of a matter.

Deut 19:5 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established. See also Deut 17:6; Mat 18:16; 2 Cor 13:1; 1Tim 5:19; Heb 10:28.

Jn 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

We have four witnesses to Jesus' ministry -- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. The resurrected Christ appeared to about 500 witnesses (1 Cor 15:6). Since none of the witnesses to Christ's ministry and resurrection are alive today, all we have is the word of the authors of the New Testament that Jesus said what He said and did what He did. Of course, Jesus Himself was killed on the testimony of false witnesses (Matt 26:59-61) -- as were Stephen (Acts 6:11-14) and Naboth (1 Ki 21:1-15) -- but this fulfilled a divine purpose. No wonder we have such a hard time getting through to you atheists. You set the bar too high! If two people saying stuff isn't enough proof, what is?

[JohnGerkoff]

Originally Posted by Pim Pendergast

According to the Bible, the word of two or three witnesses is enough to establish the truth of a matter.

Deut 19:5 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established. See also Deut 17:6; Mat 18:16; 2 Cor 13:1; 1Tim 5:19; Heb 10:28.

Jn 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

We have four witnesses to Jesus' ministry -- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. The resurrected Christ appeared to about 500 witnesses (1 Cor 15:6). Since none of the witnesses to Christ's ministry and resurrection are alive today, all we have is the word of the authors of the New Testament that Jesus said what He said and did what He did. Of course, Jesus Himself was killed on the testimony of false witnesses (Matt 26:59-61) -- as were Stephen (Acts 6:11-14) and Naboth (1 Ki 21:1-15) -- but this fulfilled a divine purpose. No wonder we have such a hard time getting through to you atheists. You set the bar too high! If two people saying stuff isn't enough proof, what is?

Good to know; I'm going to go get three people to say they saw God not exist.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

Good to know; I'm going to go get three people to say they saw God not exist.

I pray that they have better manners and analytical skills than you do.

YiC,

Zech

[Infinity]

Originally Posted by JohnGerkoff

...I'm going to go get three people to say they saw God not exist.