[Prayer Warrior]

I constantly hear feminists complaining about women's rights, and how women should have equal rights and responsibilities to men. The last straw was women joining the military. Since these women seem so determined to go against God's wishes and greedily grab power they don't deserve, and responsibility they can't handle, I say give it to them! Any woman who wants to be treated equally to a man would only have to abide by the following simple rules:

• The violence against women act wouldn’t apply to them. Since there is no violence against men act, this act is inherently unequal.
  
  
• They should not get any taxpayer funded healthcare, food stamps, welfare, etc. Doesn't taking these benefits mean they're relying on men? Doesn't that destroy their independence and equality?
  
  
• Women’s shelters would be abolished and replaced with wonderful corporations. Since there are so few men’s shelters, the existence of women’s shelters is unequal. It also infringes on a women’s independence.
  
  
• Women should not get any form of pregnancies leaves or vacations if they get pregnant while employed. Men can’t get pregnant, so this is unequal.
  
  
• The decision to get an abortion would need to be shared with the father. Isn’t it unequal that you have two parents, and only one decides whether or not the child lives? If the father decides the child should live, and the mother decides the child should die, then they need to go through a 9 month court proceeding process in order to determine who is correct.
  
  
• Women would be legally required to pay for their own dinner, rent, car, etc. payments. Doesn’t it infringe on their equality and independence to allow a man to pay these bills for them?
  
  
• Those women in the military? Put them on the front lines. Better yet, separate them off into their own brigades so they don't have to rely on a man to give them instructions. Furthermore, women would be eligible for drafts. Additionally, isn’t it unequal that men have already been drafted for years, yet women have not been drafted yet? This wrong should be righted by having women drafted immediately, especially ones who are voting. I mean, if they want to have a say in our country, shouldn’t they have to fight for it like men have for all these years?
  
  
• Women would be protected by women only police. Doesn’t it infringe on their independence to rely on a man to get them out of tough spots? She is still welcome to pay out of her own pocket for male security guards though.
  
  
• They should not be able to compete in professional sports specially designed for women eg. women's soccer. They can still compete in professional sporting events provided they have enough talent to compete with men. I would like to see women boxers fight against men boxers sometime!
  
  
• Women shouldn’t be able to go to public education. Since men pay more into taxes, it would essentially mean that they’re relying on men in order to become educated, destroying their independence.

After a month of going through True Equality™, the women who are still alive can decide whether they want to continue getting True Equality™, or whether they want to admit that they’re inferior to men. All they have to do is voluntarily give up their vote (or have their vote tied to their husband's votes. So the husband's vote would essentially count twice.), employment, and promise to obey their husbands at all times. If they don't have a husband, they should promise to obey their father at all times. Feminists get the equality that they claim they so desperately want, and good Christian women get to fulfill their role at home, a win-win.

[Ex-soccer player]

Excellent point.

Feminazis shouldn't at all be allowed to use computers, cars, power supply etc. because these things were invented and mostly built by men. The feminazis should migrate to the jungle and build all these things from scratch.

(What the feminazis fail to understand is that women already have exactly the same rights to follow the Bible as men! Knowing your place doesn't make you unworthy)

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. - Ephesians 5:22-24

[lukasekman]

Excellent points there brother!
Boxing, wrestling and martial arts are sports that would gain popularity if women fought against men, raising sponsor revenues and boosting the economy.

I do also consider abolishing the weight classes, since they are discriminating too. The superior revenues from a boxing match when a 200lbs man knocks the wind out of a 110lbs woman would trickle down to anyone who chose wealth and Jesus before poverty and atheism.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Brother, it looks like you have exposed the feminist hypocrisy for what it is. No feminist I have ever heard would dare give up any of these things. It just goes to show you that deep in our hearts is written the Word of God (Romans 2:14-15).

Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children;
and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Genesis 3:16

[BelieverInGod]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

Brother, it looks like you have exposed the feminist hypocrisy for what it is. No feminist I have ever heard would dare give up any of these things. It just goes to show you that deep in our hearts is written the Word of God (Romans 2:14-15).

Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children;
and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Genesis 3:16

AMEN!

Also do away with the special entry tests for police, fire and ambulance. Could you imagine being in an accident and having 2 women paramedics show up? I can, because I've been there. Fortunately there was a MAN there to help the weaklings who did nothing but scream "DON'T TOUCH ME!" at me.

I guess touching a female paramedic is sexual harassment?

[Nobar King]

'Feminist' is just a liberal code-word for 'lesbian'.

[Tool of satan]

As I understand it, you are arguing against all feminists. However, this post seems to target extreme feminists who cannot stand around for a second without screaming that something is unequal. Some of these do have impaired logic. However, some points stated here are off as well. I will answer from the viewpoint of a fairly impartial human.

Originally Posted by Prayer Warrior

• They should not get any taxpayer funded healthcare, food stamps, welfare, etc. Doesn't taking these benefits mean they're relying on men? Doesn't that destroy their independence and equality?

No, it doesn't. You are generalizing way too much. Both genders pay taxes, why would men still be getting welfare and healthcare if women do not? This would only be "equal" if both men and women do not receive healthcare, which would ruin the point of healthcare.

• Women’s shelters would be abolished and replaced with wonderful corporations. Since there are so few men’s shelters, the existence of women’s shelters is unequal. It also infringes on a women’s independence.

Like orphanages infringe on the independence of children. I don't think you have a firm grasp on independence.

• Women should not get any form of pregnancies leaves or vacations if they get pregnant while employed. Men can’t get pregnant, so this is unequal.
• The decision to get an abortion would need to be shared with the father. Isn’t it unequal that you have two parents, and only one decides whether or not the child lives? If the father decides the child should live, and the mother decides the child should die, then they need to go through a 9 month court proceeding process in order to determine who is correct.

"Men can't get pregnant" is exactly the point. It is not unequal, because women are the ones pregnant, not men. These laws balance out nature's inequality. Also, just because they get pregnant and men don't doesn't mean they're inferior.

• Women would be legally required to pay for their own dinner, rent, car, etc. payments. Doesn’t it infringe on their equality and independence to allow a man to pay these bills for them?

If men want to pay for these things, they have the right to. If they do not want to, they have the right to not pay. Women have the right to pay, as well as the right to not let men pay. How does this infringe on the rights of anyone?

• Those women in the military? Put them on the front lines. Better yet, separate them off into their own brigades so they don't have to rely on a man to give them instructions. Furthermore, women would be eligible for drafts. Additionally, isn’t it unequal that men have already been drafted for years, yet women have not been drafted yet? This wrong should be righted by having women drafted immediately, especially ones who are voting. I mean, if they want to have a say in our country, shouldn’t they have to fight for it like men have for all these years?
• Women would be protected by women only police. Doesn’t it infringe on their independence to rely on a man to get them out of tough spots? She is still welcome to pay out of her own pocket for male security guards though.
• They should not be able to compete in professional sports specially designed for women eg. women's soccer. They can still compete in professional sporting events provided they have enough talent to compete with men. I would like to see women boxers fight against men boxers sometime!

The average man is physically stronger than the average woman. Anyone who denies this, male or female, is completely ignorant of the various studies conducted over centuries. This is why women need laws and rules to protect them.



Yes, women should admit that their gender is physically inferior. However, they as an individual might not be.

• Women shouldn’t be able to go to public education. Since men pay more into taxes, it would essentially mean that they’re relying on men in order to become educated, destroying their independence.

Where'd you get this information? And have you thought about why this might be so? And women still pay taxes, so they should still be able to get public education for the taxes they paid.


So where are men and women equals? In intelligence, morality, etc., and in the fact that they're both humans. Hence, laws for equality for all humans.

The trend has been going towards equality for all humans for quite a while now. Sorry to say, but you are fighting a losing battle.

[BelieverInGod]

So you're public brainwashing schooling taught you that "women are equal, except where they're more equal"?

Sad, very sad. Women need to get back to what they were created to do.

[Tool of satan]

Originally Posted by BelieverInGod

So you're public brainwashing schooling taught you that "women are equal, except where they're more equal"?

Sad, very sad. Women need to get back to what they were created to do.

There is no such thing as "more equal", I never said that, and not sure where you got it.

Also, what public schooling?

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by HandJob

Also, what public schooling?

So you got educated by a bum under a bridge? That explains a lot...

[Tool of satan]

Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man

So you got educated by a bum under a bridge? That explains a lot...

No, I wasn't.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by HandJob

There is no such thing as "more equal", I never said that, and not sure where you got it...

Read a book.



Seriously, it's awesome (and you'll understand more Futurama jokes, too).

[Tool of satan]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

Read a book.



Seriously, it's awesome (and you'll understand more Futurama jokes, too).

Read it. Good book.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Originally Posted by HandJob

The trend has been going towards equality for all humans for quite a while now. Sorry to say, but you are fighting a losing battle.

Why should we True Christians™ care about the trend? The trend has also been going towards more tolerance for sodomites; does that make it okay? We worship an unchanging God, not the latest political fad:

Malachi 3:6: For I [am] the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Hebrews 13:8: Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by HandJob

As I understand it, you are arguing against all feminists. However, this post seems to target extreme feminists who cannot stand around for a second without screaming that something is unequal. Some of these do have impaired logic. However, some points stated here are off as well. I will answer from the viewpoint of a fairly impartial human.

Dear, there is no such thing as an "extreme feminist." Feminists are, by definition, extreme in that they desire only to be accepted as men in society in public and in private. Further, your viewpoint is hardly "impartial" as you are the owner of an unregenerated soul, and therefore unable to be partial to anything but Satan's lies.

[Tool of satan]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

Dear, there is no such thing as an "extreme feminist." Feminists are, by definition, extreme in that they desire only to be accepted as men in society in public and in private. Further, your viewpoint is hardly "impartial" as you are the owner of an unregenerated soul, and therefore unable to be partial to anything but Satan's lies.

Well, that's your perspective, so it's perfectly fine if you see things that way.

There were some points in the first post that were incorrect, such as your ideas on a feminist's view of independence and equality.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by HandJob

Well, that's your perspective, so it's perfectly fine if you see things that way.

There were some points in the first post that were incorrect I don't understand, such as your ideas on a feminist's view of independence and equality.

I fixed that for you, dear.

[Tool of satan]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

I fixed that for you, dear.

And that's incorrect as well. I understand why you don't like feminists, and I think you should understand what feminists mean when they say they want "equality." Which, when looking at the first post, you do not understand.

[Prayer Warrior]

Originally Posted by HandJob

As I understand it, you are arguing against all feminists. However, this post seems to target extreme feminists who cannot stand around for a second without screaming that something is unequal. Some of these do have impaired logic. However, some points stated here are off as well. I will answer from the viewpoint of a fairly impartial human.

There'd be no point in calling themselves a feminist if they didn't think that women should get more rights, or that women "aren't equal enough". Most, if not all feminists fall under that category. Maybe there are exceptions just like maybe there are a few nice people who called themselves nazis, but the group's ideology as a whole is corrupt. Anyone who doesn't advocate "more equality" for women isn't really a feminist.

Originally Posted by HandJob

No, it doesn't. You are generalizing way too much. Both genders pay taxes, why would men still be getting welfare and healthcare if women do not? This would only be "equal" if both men and women do not receive healthcare, which would ruin the point of healthcare.

Because feminists are the one screeching about independence. I don't hear any groups screaming about male independence. Accepting government healthcare /food stamps etc. is dependence. Either they want independence or they don't.

Like orphanages infringe on the independence of children. I don't think you have a firm grasp on independence.

Children don't have independence. Children are dependent upon their parents, or an orphanage. Are you saying women are the basically like children? That's one part I can agree with you on. However, you don't see rights groups picketing about giving children equal pay, or giving children the right to vote etc.

"Men can't get pregnant" is exactly the point. It is not unequal, because women are the ones pregnant, not men. These laws balance out nature's inequality. Also, just because they get pregnant and men don't doesn't mean they're inferior.

The average man is physically stronger than the average woman. Anyone who denies this, male or female, is completely ignorant of the various studies conducted over centuries. This is why women need laws and rules to protect them.

Yes, women should admit that their gender is physically inferior. However, they as an individual might not be.

"Nature's inequality"? I believe it is God's inequality. God designed women to be inferior to men. However, whether or not you believe it was God who designed women this way, or it was "nature", we can both admit that women are naturally unequal. Thus, they shouldn't get equal pay. If they do, it is because they are dependent on a man to fill in the gaps for the times when they can't work.

I know a friend who wants to work for the NFL and be a professionalism football player, but he can't. He simply isn't tall enough. Should we get laws to compensate him for "nature's inequality"? Should you be able to get paid as a football player even if no one wants to pay to see you play? Should you be able to get paid as a writer even if no one wants to pay to read your books? Should you be able to get paid as an artist if no one wants to buy your paintings?

Either laws should be applied equally to humans, or you want laws to benefit inferior humans.

If men want to pay for these things, they have the right to. If they do not want to, they have the right to not pay. Women have the right to pay, as well as the right to not let men pay. How does this infringe on the rights of anyone?

So, feminists should be treated equally to men while simultaneously having a man pay for their dinner, rent, car payments, utilities, etc.? What you're talking about sounds like a child to me. Either feminists want independence or they don't. If they're going to claim to be independent from men, then let them back it up.

Where'd you get this information? And have you thought about why this might be so? And women still pay taxes, so they should still be able to get public education for the taxes they paid.

Where? Right out of the mouths of feminists themselves http://thefeministwire.com/2012/05/g...rer-by-age-65/ . They admit women are 1.5 million dollars poorer by age 65, and taxes are based on income. The less money they make, the less taxes they pay.

You would think with the news media blasting Mitt Romney's 47% comments over and over you would have heard him by now, but apparently not. Almost half of the people living in America pay no income tax. Most of these people are women.

Yes, I have considered why. Even liberal news organizations like NBC admit that women call in sick to work almost twice as often as men. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21547885/n.../#.UQyAEqXOoaM
Yet women still complain about unequal pay. In other words, they want a man to do the work for them on the days they call in sick, while getting the same pay as that man. If women were really doing equal work for less money, you would see men being fired en masse and being replaced with women. What do CEOs need these men for? They can hire a women for 20% less. Yet obviously that is not happening. It is become women are inferior. They do inferior work, and they should get inferior pay as a result.

So where are men and women equals? In intelligence, morality, etc., and in the fact that they're both humans. Hence, laws for equality for all humans.

The trend has been going towards equality for all humans for quite a while now. Sorry to say, but you are fighting a losing battle.

If women are so equal to men in terms of intelligence, morality, drive, etc. why are there so few women billionaires, millionaires, and CEOs? Why do they need their own brand of sporting events? I constantly hear about women getting so many college degrees, yet they can rarely seem to turn these degrees into something useful other than student debt which just creates an even greater burden for the government.

You say want to be impartial, then you do nothing but attempt to fight for feminists. You asked me to provide a source for my information, but provided none for your own. You say women should be treated equally under the law while explaining how there should be special exceptions in the law that only benefit women.

The only thing impartial about you is probably how you impartially deliver handjobs regardless of whether or not the recipient is ugly, fat, a man, woman, etc.

[Tool of satan]

Originally Posted by Prayer Warrior

There'd be no point in calling themselves a feminist if they didn't think that women should get more rights, or that women "aren't equal enough". Most, if not all feminists fall under that category. Maybe there are exceptions just like maybe there are a few nice people who called themselves nazis, but the group's ideology as a whole is corrupt. Anyone who doesn't advocate "more equality" for women isn't really a feminist.

Obviously, they do want equal rights.

Because feminists are the one screeching about independence. I don't hear any groups screaming about male independence. Accepting government healthcare /food stamps etc. is dependence. Either they want independence or they don't.

Well, feminists in America already have the same essential rights as other males. They are arguing against cultural stereotypes and discrimination. Good point though, some radical feminists do go over the top with wanting females to be independent.

Children don't have independence. Children are dependent upon their parents, or an orphanage. Are you saying women are the basically like children? That's one part I can agree with you on. However, you don't see rights groups picketing about giving children equal pay, or giving children the right to vote etc.

No, that wasn't the point of the comment. Anyways, females in shelters are dependent on others, they aren't denying this.

"Nature's inequality"? I believe it is God's inequality. God designed women to be inferior to men. However, whether or not you believe it was God who designed women this way, or it was "nature", we can both admit that women are naturally unequal. Thus, they shouldn't get equal pay. If they do, it is because they are dependent on a man to fill in the gaps for the times when they can't work.

Naturally unequal physically, yes. No, they should not get equal pay if they do not do the same work. However, they should get equal pay if they do equal work.

I know a friend who wants to work for the NFL and be a professionalism football player, but he can't. He simply isn't tall enough.

Is he a good football player, as good as those on NFL, even though he's short? If so, the rule is wrong and should be corrected to look for ability, not height.

Should we get laws to compensate him for "nature's inequality"? Should you be able to get paid as a football player even if no one wants to pay to see you play? Should you be able to get paid as a writer even if no one wants to pay to read your books? Should you be able to get paid as an artist if no one wants to buy your paintings?

Either laws should be applied equally to humans, or you want laws to benefit inferior humans.

No, of course not. The laws and rules protect women from getting hurt physically by men or having to compete physically with them. Likewise, laws also prevent women from hurting men. This is what I meant, not that they should be compensated for lacking in physical ability.

So, feminists should be treated equally to men while simultaneously having a man pay for their dinner, rent, car payments, utilities, etc.?

No, the man has a choice. The woman has a choice. If they scream that they want to be independent while accepting other's payments for their things, then they are hypocrites. But most of them do not do this.

Where? Right out of the mouths of feminists themselves http://thefeministwire.com/2012/05/g...rer-by-age-65/ . They admit women are 1.5 million dollars poorer by age 65, and taxes are based on income. The less money they make, the less taxes they pay.

Yes, I have considered why. Even liberal news organizations like MSNBC admit that women call in sick to work almost twice as often as men. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21547885/n.../#.UQyAEqXOoaM
Yet women still complain about unequal pay. In other words, they want a man to do the work for them on the days they call in sick, while getting the same pay as that man.

Well, if they don't do work, they should not complain about unequal pay. If they do equal work to men, which many of them do, they should get equal pay as men.

If women were really doing equal work for less money, you would see men being fired en masse and being replaced with women. What do CEOs need these men for? They can hire a women for 20% less. Yet obviously that is not happening. It is become women are inferior. They do inferior work, and they should get inferior pay as a result.

If so, then yes. However, this is not the case, as they are already getting equal pay in many places. In other places, however, they are discriminated against and get inferior pay for the same work.

If women are so equal to men in terms of intelligence, morality, drive, etc. why are there so few women billionaires, millionaires, and CEOs? Why do they need their own brand of sporting events? I constantly hear about women getting so many college degrees, yet they can rarely seem to turn these degrees into something useful other than student debt which just creates an even greater burden for the government.

Discrimination. Less opportunities. Chance/luck. And they need their own sporting events because the most talented woman at a sport cannot compete equally with the most talented man at a sport, because women are physically weaker.

You say want to be impartial, then you do nothing but attempt to fight for feminists. You asked me to provide a source for my information, but provided none for your own. You say women should be treated equally under the law while explaining how there should be special exceptions in the law that only benefit women.

Pregnancy is an exception. They have to carry a baby for 9 months and may not be able to work effectively during this time, which means they probably will need more support than males do.

The only thing impartial about you is probably how you impartially deliver handjobs regardless of whether or not the recipient is ugly, fat, a man, woman, etc.

Foul words from a True Christian.