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Default Re: Hello Christians - 01-02-2012, 05:09 AM

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The thing that bothers me in regards to the Genocide, is not that Moses had thousands of people put to death for God, or that even children were not spared, its that the female virgin Children, who you correctly pointed out, would have been forced into being concubines or wives, would have been very young, if we take Child to mean up to 18; which is probably anywhere between 2 and 4 years older then it WOULD be considered back then, that means there could be anything from 12-18 year old children, assuming that they became fertile at 12, I might be wrong. And these were used as concubines, sex-slaves in other words. Anyone else think that sounds alittle too close to Paedophilia to them?
Why do you worry about them? They are in Hell now. I'm sure those days of being 12 year old brides are "the good ole days" for them now.



Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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Default Re: Hello Christians - 01-02-2012, 05:18 AM

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The thing that bothers me in regards to the Genocide, is not that Moses had thousands of people put to death for God, or that even children were not spared, its that the female virgin Children, who you correctly pointed out, would have been forced into being concubines or wives, would have been very young, if we take Child to mean up to 18; which is probably anywhere between 2 and 4 years older then it WOULD be considered back then, that means there could be anything from 12-18 year old children, assuming that they became fertile at 12, I might be wrong. And these were used as concubines, sex-slaves in other words. Anyone else think that sounds alittle too close to Paedophilia to them?
Not at all. Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescents.

Meanwhile, in those days, marriage of girls as soon as they were able to bear children was common. Remember, many women died in childbirth, babies weren't counted in census until they were at least a month old because so many died, and people generally died young.

It was necessary to bear as many children as possible.

So no, "under 18" does not mean "child" except here in our little privileged First World where 25-year-olds are still "children".

Here I thought you atheists were all about "cultural relativism". But not when it applies to the ancient Jews, I guess?

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Yeah, that came out different then I meant it to lol, I mean that God is a loving entity, so he would love Humanity, if I am right, he loved Humanity even more then his Angels, asking them to bow before Humans, which caused Lucifer to split from the angels in the first place.


Dante is not Scripture. That's a made-up story.

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And I will concede, that if they were given the chance to worship Christianity and refused, I can understand in them days, a crusade against them being their own fault.
You really need to read the Bible if you think Jesus came before Moses.


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Default Re: Hello Christians - 01-02-2012, 05:20 AM

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You are now trying to get Mary to question her faith.

Won't work, Sparky.
Woah, My apologies, I didn't mean for it to sound like that was my intentions. I would never hope to try and persuade a Christian out of their beliefs, I respect your right to HAVE those beliefs too much to interfere. As I hope many here feel the same way to others.

I meant that I was confused by how he was involving himself in Moses's crusade, while having promised free will. But I guess your right, I should read up a bit more on the subject; If I am honest, I don't even own a bible, let alone read it cover to cover.

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No. The world, and the universe, were made by God, for God.

Humans are but one of the many species He created to populate His, not OUR, universe.

This is one of the shortfalls of atheism. Since you believe yourselves to be the highest intelligence in the universe, you cannot help but exalt yourselves above all Creation. You then project that onto Christians, assuming we also exalt ourselves above all Creation and believe that the universe was made for us.

WE were made for God's universe, not the other way around.
So we are not alone then, like the Angels, he would have created other species to keep him company?

I would'nt say that, as an Atheist, I hold myself higher then all of Creation, I know we have limits, if a Meteor hits Earth, nothing I can do about it, if I wanted to reach out and touch the moon, I couldnt. But I know what you mean, with our limited experience we can't see the big picture. Which is quite a thought-provoking, if unsettling prospect...

Anyway, I will have to talk later, need to get to sleep before I make some slip-up on here that I will regret later, it has definatly been interesting talking to the four of you, I hope that the rest of the forum accepts me with; well even your level of sceptism would be nice. It has been nice to meet you, Rev, Mary, Pastor.

I will see you another day.


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Woah, My apologies, I didn't mean for it to sound like that was my intentions. I would never hope to try and persuade a Christian out of their beliefs, I respect your right to HAVE those beliefs too much to interfere. As I hope many here feel the same way to others.

I meant that I was confused by how he was involving himself in Moses's crusade, while having promised free will. But I guess your right, I should read up a bit more on the subject; If I am honest, I don't even own a bible, let alone read it cover to cover.



So we are not alone then, like the Angels, he would have created other species to keep him company?

I would'nt say that, as an Atheist, I hold myself higher then all of Creation, I know we have limits, if a Meteor hits Earth, nothing I can do about it, if I wanted to reach out and touch the moon, I couldnt. But I know what you mean, with our limited experience we can't see the big picture. Which is quite a thought-provoking, if unsettling prospect...

Anyway, I will have to talk later, need to get to sleep before I make some slip-up on here that I will regret later, it has definatly been interesting talking to the four of you, I hope that the rest of the forum accepts me with; well even your level of sceptism would be nice. It has been nice to meet you, Rev, Mary, Pastor.

I will see you another day.
Sleep well. I pray Jesus comes to you in your dreams and pours His Holy Love into you!


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