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Default Re: Aryan Subraces - 03-08-2011, 01:01 AM

Maybe one of you could explain this to me. I have never understood it. We were researching the Gnostic texts as a part of our know thy enemy campaign.

Here are the seven Authorities’ names and physical forms:
First, Athoth with a sheep’s face
Second, Eloaios with a donkey’s face
Third, Astaphaios with a hyena’s face
Fourth, Yao with the face of a seven headed snake
Fifth, Sabaoth who has the face of a dragon
Sixth, Adonin whose face is that of a monkey
Seventh, Sabbataios with a face of flame and fire.
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Default Re: Aryan Subraces - 03-08-2011, 04:16 AM

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I admit, I shouldn't have been so harsh in my posting. If I could edit my first post here I would, to tone it down. Nonetheless, what you are quoting here by H.P. Blavatsky does not contradict my posts. Please go back and read my posts and compare them to what you've quoted from H.P. Blavatsky. And if you have time and are interested, read this thread on the Gnostic forums.
Lo, I merely quoted from the works of H.P. Blavatsky. That is all. I am no more in opposition to you then than a boulder is opposed to a gale force wind.

Why are you so obsessed with opposing me? Disagreeing with me. Defending against me. If you must be defensive, defend against yourself. Many call themselves Gnostic and gnow nothing. Meditate on this.

"Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." Matthew 15:14

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About your avatar picture. I'm not saying that it depicts a black hood (I can't exactly tell, but it looks like it does), however if it does depict a black hood; keep this in mind:

If it is not a black hood, then my apologies.
It is a black hood of a black winter coat. That is all.

I have something for you to meditate upon.

"It is notrighteousness that you turn your faces towards the East and the West, butrighteousness is this that one should believe in God and the last day and the angels and the Book and the prophets, and give away wealth out of love for Him to the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and the beggars and for the captives, and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate; and the performers of their promise when they make a promise, and the patient in distress and affliction and in time of conflicts-- these are they who are true and these are they who guard." Quran 2:177

"And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding? Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man." Matthew 16-20
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Default Re: Aryan Subraces - 03-08-2011, 05:20 AM

Let it be known that I do not claim to be Gnostic. I'm only beginning in the Gnostic studies, practically speaking.

Nonetheless, your following quoted words do not accurately convey the teachings of Samael Aun Weor in regard to Divinity in relation to the Root Races (and again, H.P. Blavatsky wrote that only some African tribes are devolving).


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The Gods are all caucasion in appearance so perhaps that's why they made the first modern day humans in their image: The Nordic image.

Clearly the nordic phenotype of blonde hair, blue eyes, fair skin, straight nose, etc. are shared in common with the gods.

In a land full of semetic people Jesus went out of his way to make sure he was born in a caucasion body. One can only assume he wanted to remain in the image of god while on earth while at the same time humanizing himself by having dark hair and eyes.

Clearly, the negroids of Africa and Australia aren't human like the rest of us for they are not mentioned by the Great Master in any context. More than likely they are humanoids from the past Lemurian root race in the process of de-evolution.

Do you, Goatski, really believe that features of the Caucasian races are the only ones that represent Divinity?


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White Lodge

That ancient collection of pure souls who maintain the highest and most sacred of sciences: White Magic or White Tantra. It is called White due to its purity and cleanliness. This “Brotherhood” or “Lodge” includes human beings of the highest order from every race, culture, creed and religion, and of both sexes.

And even though many students of Samael Aun Weor do not often depict non-Caucasian images of Divinity on their websites and such; does not mean that the White Lodge itself considers non-Caucasian so-called features to be any less Divine than Caucasian so-called features (also note that Nilotic Africans often have so-called "Nordic" structural features, even though they are of the Black Race).

Anyhow, even if I'm full of ego and do not have Solar Bodies, and even though I'm only a beginner who is ignorant, uncharitable, impatient, etc.; does not change the fact that what you've said in the above quote is a misrepresentation of the teachings of Samael Aun Weor. This is nothing personal against you. Keep studying.


P.S. My apologies for my initial overzealousness.


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Maybe one of you could explain this to me. I have never understood it. We were researching the Gnostic texts as a part of our know thy enemy campaign.

Here are the seven Authorities’ names and physical forms:
First, Athoth with a sheep’s face
Second, Eloaios with a donkey’s face
Third, Astaphaios with a hyena’s face
Fourth, Yao with the face of a seven headed snake
Fifth, Sabaoth who has the face of a dragon
Sixth, Adonin whose face is that of a monkey
Seventh, Sabbataios with a face of flame and fire.
Erm, I'm invisible here. Please continue.
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Default Re: Aryan Subraces - 03-08-2011, 05:44 AM

Greetings Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson

That appears to be from the Apocryphon of John; however I do not know if you've quoted a reliable translation of it or not.

The following translation with commentary is apparently not yet finished, but it's a great start:

Apocryphon of John

About the appearances of the said Archons, they must be Kabbalistic and symbolic, just as Ezekiel's vision in the Old Testament is Kabbalistic and symbolic.
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Default Re: Aryan Subraces - 03-08-2011, 05:51 AM

I meant to write: ...just as the Hajoth ha Kadosh or Holy Creatures of Ezekiel's vision in the Old Testament are Kabbalistic and symbolic.
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H.P. Blavatsky did write that there are Australian tribes and some African Tribes from Lemuria and Atlantis who are devolving.
It appears she wrote that there are tribes who are inferior races, lacking the God-given "spark".

Seems Madame Blavatsky was a bigoted, white-supremacist spiritualist looking for supernatural justification of her racism.
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Let it be known that I do not claim to be Gnostic. I'm only beginning in the Gnostic studies, practically speaking.
So basically you're a Gnostard, not only ignorant of Gnosticism but also of Christianity, and here to tell we accomplished and learned Christians that we don't understand Christianity.

Sounds about right. Just like nominal Christians who have never read the Bible, and come here to tell us what Jesus would do.


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Greetings Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson

That appears to be from the Apocryphon of John; however I do not know if you've quoted a reliable translation of it or not.

The following translation with commentary is apparently not yet finished, but it's a great start:

Apocryphon of John

About the appearances of the said Archons, they must be Kabbalistic and symbolic, just as Ezekiel's vision in the Old Testament is Kabbalistic and symbolic.
Interesting, so all of Ezekiel is symbolic? I guess they could quit with the planning for their jew temple, in that case?

Also, my translation was from here. It is close to the Nag Hammadi book my kids got me for Christmas. They know I devour this stuff.
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Default Re: Aryan Subraces - 03-08-2011, 03:32 PM

Rev. M. Rodimer, I don't know how many times I have to emphasize that H.P. Blavatsky wrote that only some African tribes are devolving. It's not racism, because she never said that they are devolving because of their race. H.P. Blavatsky also wrote that there are many people of the white race on this planet who are devolving.


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"Skepticism may sneer; faith, based on knowledge and spiritual science, believes and affirms.

"Our present cycle is preeminently one of such soul-deaths. We elbow soulless men and women at every step in life. Neither can we wonder, in the present state of things, at the gigantic failure of Hegel's and Schelling's last efforts at some metaphysical construction of a system. When facts, palpable and tangible facts of phenomenal Spiritualism happen daily and hourly, and yet are denied by the majority of "civilized" nations, little chance is there for the acceptance of purely abstract metaphysics by the ever-growing crowd of materialists."

"Arabian, the Thibetan, an intuitive perception of the possibilities of occult natural forces in subjection to human will, comes by inheritance; and in them, the physical senses as well as the spiritual are far more finely developed than in the Western races. Notwithstanding the notable difference of thickness between the skulls of a European and a Southern Hindu, this difference, being a purely climatic result, due to the intensity of the sun's rays, involves no psychological principles. Furthermore, there would be tremendous difficulties in the way of training, if we can so express it. Contaminated by centuries of dogmatic superstition, by an ineradicable -- though quite unwarranted -- sense of superiority over those whom the English term so contemptuously "niggers," the white European would hardly submit himself to the practical tuition of either Kopt, Brahman, or Lama. To become a neophyte, one must be ready to devote himself heart and soul to the study of mystic sciences. Magic -- most imperative of mistresses -- brooks no rival. Unlike other sciences, a theoretical knowledge of formulai without mental capacities or soul powers, is utterly useless in magic. The spirit must hold in complete subjection the combativeness of what is loosely termed educated reason, until facts have vanquished cold human sophistry." – Isis Unveiled

And FYI, I have read the Bible from cover to cover, and have also read from cover to cover many other scriptures and Gnostic books. Practically speaking, it can also be affirmed that transmutation or sublimation actually works. Beyond that, I will say no more here about my own individual experience.


Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson, that translation from "gnosis.org" mentions "Yahweh" who is the chief of demons according to Samael Aun Weor. Samael Aun Weor wrote that Jehovah, יהוה, or Yah-Hovah, is the right pronunciation of the Hebrew Tetragrammaton; and that "Yahweh" is a mispronunciation of the Tetragrammaton. Well Yahweh is a "correct" pronunciation if someone intends on invoking a demon. But it is taught that those who intend to follow Christ, will pronounce the Tetragrammaton as Yod-Havah.
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Default Re: Aryan Subraces - 03-08-2011, 05:12 PM

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Let it be known that I do not claim to be Gnostic. I'm only beginning in the Gnostic studies, practically speaking.
And yet you speak with such authority. You correct me. You claim to comprehend the truth and furthermore accuse me of misinterpretation.

Does the student teach the Master?

Tell me, is it the Being that lends you such superlative objective reasoning or is it merely the ego which speaks through you. Take your time.

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Do you, Goatski, really believe that features of the Caucasian races are the only ones that represent Divinity?
You may call me Han Gebur. "Goatski" is a word an administrator inserted as my username. Nothing more.

To answer your question, no aesthetic form represents divinity. Even the tenebreous ones may appear beautiful and pure. However, the "European" form is the form in which the gods manifest.

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And even though many students of Samael Aun Weor do not often depict non-Caucasian images of Divinity on their websites and such; does not mean that the White Lodge itself considers non-Caucasian so-called features to be any less Divine than Caucasian so-called features (also note that Nilotic Africans often have so-called "Nordic" structural features, even though they are of the Black Race).
And what do you know of the White Lodge?

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Anyhow, even if I'm full of ego and do not have Solar Bodies, and even though I'm only a beginner who is ignorant, uncharitable, impatient, etc.; does not change the fact that what you've said in the above quote is a misrepresentation of the teachings of Samael Aun Weor. This is nothing personal against you. Keep studying.
What do you know of facts? Of Truth?

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P.S. My apologies for my initial overzealousness.
Do not apologize to me. Change.
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Default Re: Aryan Subraces - 03-08-2011, 05:18 PM

White Lodge

"That ancient collection of pure souls who maintain the highest and most sacred of sciences: White Magic or White Tantra. It is called White due to its purity and cleanliness. This “Brotherhood” or “Lodge” includes human beings of the highest order from every race, culture, creed and religion, and of both sexes."

Yes, human beings of the highest order.
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You may call me Han Gebur. "Goatski" is a word an administrator inserted as my username. Nothing more.

Greetings Han Gebur.


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Does the student teach the Master?

Instead of sitting here and debating about who has more Gnosis, or who is a true Gnostic or not a true Gnostic, etc.; let us focus on the facts. Also, those who claim to be Masters usually are not Masters, but are often mythomaniacs.


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However, the "European" form is the form in which the gods manifest.
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Originally Posted by SAMAEL AUN WEOR
"The First Root Race was gigantic and black in color...."

"They are the Glacial Men, who, for the good of this poor suffering humanity, still exist."

"Individuals of such a group which correspond to the first race.... ...have preserved their original purity."

"Presently, the members of such a group, have a beautiful human size and presence similar to our own. They have perfect bodies of flesh and bone, and great wisdom. Indeed, they are the living prototype of what all of the populace of the Earth should be."


- Gazing At the Mystery

Yes I've shortened the above quotes by clipping them, but if you read the actual book Gazing at the Mystery for yourself, you will see that what I've quoted is still in the proper context.


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"Among the masters of the White Lodge, not one wears a black hood. The Master Zanoni (a White Master), dresses in a black tunic and wears a distinguished mantle of the same color, but never a black hood. This is because the black hood is only for black magicians."

The Revolution of Beelzebub

It doesn't matter if somebody who has Solar Bodies and who has experienced thousands of Maha-Samadhis claims otherwise. There is no room here for any contrary interpretation of the above two quotes from Samael Aun Weor.

What you've done in this thread is actually inverted the teachings of Samael Aun Weor; by claiming that the Divine prototype of the Gods is of the white European race, and by insisting that it is okay for a Gnostic student to condone a black hood, even if it's just a black hood of a black winter coat.

If a Gnostic student has to wear a winter coat that has a black hood because they cannot afford a new coat, and they make sure to as much as possible NOT actually wear the hood itself, but just the coat; it is one thing.

But for a Gnostic student to justify it's depiction in their forum-avatar, is an entirely different thing. I'm NOT saying that your depicting of a black hood in your forum-avatar necessarily makes you a black magician. Perhaps you are merely depicting it out of ignorance only. So please do not take this personally.

I'll give you even more benefit of the doubt, and consider that maybe you are only depicting a black hood as to disguise yourself, in order to blend in more within this den of fanaticism and Javhe-worship of which we are posting in.



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Yes, human beings of the highest order.
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"...from every race, culture, creed and religion, and of both sexes."

Again, nothing personal. Let us discuss the facts only.
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Default Re: Aryan Subraces - 03-08-2011, 08:03 PM

Allow me to re-quote H.P. Blavatsky with added text, in order to give a better context for my previous post where I've quoted here:


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Originally Posted by H.P. Blavatsky
"Skepticism may sneer; faith, based on knowledge and spiritual science, believes and affirms.

"Our present cycle is preeminently one of such soul-deaths. We elbow soulless men and women at every step in life. Neither can we wonder, in the present state of things, at the gigantic failure of Hegel's and Schelling's last efforts at some metaphysical construction of a system. When facts, palpable and tangible facts of phenomenal Spiritualism happen daily and hourly, and yet are denied by the majority of "civilized" nations, little chance is there for the acceptance of purely abstract metaphysics by the ever-growing crowd of materialists."

"Besides, there are many good reasons why the study of magic, except in its broad philosophy, is nearly impracticable in Europe and America. Magic being what it is, the most difficult of all sciences to learn experimentally -- its acquisition is practically beyond the reach of the majority of white-skinned people; and that, whether their effort is made at home or in the East. Probably not more than one man in a million of European blood is fitted -- either physically, morally, or psychologically -- to become a practical magician, and not one in ten millions would be found endowed with all these three qualifications as required for the work. Civilized nations lack the phenomenal powers of endurance, both mental and physical, of the Easterns; the favoring temperamental idiosyncrasies of the Orientals are utterly wanting in them.

"In the Hindu,
the Arabian, the Thibetan, an intuitive perception of the possibilities of occult natural forces in subjection to human will, comes by inheritance; and in them, the physical senses as well as the spiritual are far more finely developed than in the Western races. Notwithstanding the notable difference of thickness between the skulls of a European and a Southern Hindu, this difference, being a purely climatic result, due to the intensity of the sun's rays, involves no psychological principles. Furthermore, there would be tremendous difficulties in the way of training, if we can so express it. Contaminated by centuries of dogmatic superstition, by an ineradicable -- though quite unwarranted -- sense of superiority over those whom the English term so contemptuously "niggers," the white European would hardly submit himself to the practical tuition of either Kopt, Brahman, or Lama. To become a neophyte, one must be ready to devote himself heart and soul to the study of mystic sciences. Magic -- most imperative of mistresses -- brooks no rival. Unlike other sciences, a theoretical knowledge of formulai without mental capacities or soul powers, is utterly useless in magic. The spirit must hold in complete subjection the combativeness of what is loosely termed educated reason, until facts have vanquished cold human sophistry."

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Instead of sitting here and debating about who has more Gnosis, or who is a true Gnostic or not a true Gnostic, etc.; let us focus on the facts.
I am not debating anything with you. Debate is for the ignoramous.

One can give directions, place road markers or hold the hand of another to guide them to a destination, but no amount of guidance will ever be as valuable to you as putting one foot in front of the other. The effort cannot be mine, but yours.

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And you know this because you read it in a book? Contemplate this notion for a moment.





The ideas of others: You can accept them or you can deny them. That is a simple task. But can you live them? Can you experience Truth for yourself? That is what Gnosis is.

It is easy to intellectualize the works of Masters. Crude memorization and ideological regurgitation serves no purpose. What do you gain from such practices?

Tell me, if you are neither initiate nor adept of the Greater Mysteries how are you then qualified to support the validity of anything a Master says. How do you then deem who is and is not a Master? Samuel Aun Weor did not publish a single book for the purpose of force feeding dogma to the masses. Take hold of the map provided and make your way through the Narrow Path. The Being does not require Samuel Aun Weor.

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Yes I've shortened the above quotes by clipping them, but if you read the actual book Gazing at the Mystery for yourself, you will see that what I've quoted is still in the proper context.
Yes, the first terrestrial humanoids of Euclid were the color black. Do you, per chance, think them gods? Do you suppose the term "black" is universally synonymous with the African Negroid? Is a black colored humanioid necessarily the same as a the socio-political concept of a "black man"? Are "black men" literally black by definition?

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It doesn't matter if somebody who has Solar Bodies and who has experienced thousands of Maha-Samadhis claims otherwise. There is no room here for any contrary interpretation of the above two quotes from Samael Aun Weor.
People who know everything can learn nothing. Meditate on this.

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What you've done in this thread is actually inverted the teachings of Samael Aun Weor; by claiming that the Divine prototype of the Gods is of the white European race, and by insisting that it is okay for a Gnostic student to condone a black hood, even if it's just a black hood of a black winter coat.
I had hoped you would meditate on the quotes I provided from the Book of Matthew and the Holy Quran. There was meaning in them.

If you truly believe that it is the color of a man's attire that defines him, know that it is only that - belief. Lo, superstition.

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I'll give you even more benefit of the doubt, and consider that maybe you are only depicting a black hood as to disguise yourself, in order to blend in more within this den of fanaticism and Javhe-worship of which we are posting in.
It is simple a coat that is black. Nothing more.

Again, I advise you meditate upon this and ask yourself, "Where does the Master dwell?" Are you at least practiced in the art of meditation?
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Default Re: Aryan Subraces - 03-08-2011, 10:36 PM

Actually no, "black men" whether physically "black" (with melanin) or internally "black" (Klipoth, hell) are obviously not always literal.

Krishna means "the black one" for example. "Osiris is a Black God", the Black Tezcatlipoca, etc.

As another example, there is White Tantra, Grey/Gray Tantra, and Black Tantra. These terminologies obviously have nothing to do with skin color. Because if they did, then a physical child of a physical "black" person and a physical "white" person, would have gray/grey skin instead of brown skin.

Nevertheless, melanin (the natural chemical which makes skin dark or "black") is something related to and of the Solar Light, because melanin absorbs and transforms the Ultraviolet Solar Light. Those whose skin lacks melanin, get burned by the Sun.

However, this doesn't necessarily imply in the grand scheme of things that any racial feature is superior or inferior to any other racial feature.

This being said, I still don't get where you are getting this idea that that which is related to the "white European form" or features, characteristics, etc. reflects Divinity more than other features or characteristics.

As for your other questions, I'm currently not inclined to talk anymore here about my internal accomplishments or lack thereof. If my egos have created karma here, then I'll answer to my Inner-God and no one else.


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Default Re: Aryan Subraces - 03-09-2011, 01:30 AM

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This being said, I still don't get where you are getting this idea that that which is related to the "white European form" or features, characteristics, etc. reflects Divinity more than other features or characteristics.
I did not get an idea from anywhere. I simply stated the Truth of the matter. That is all.

A truth you are eager to deny regardless of the fact that you are in no position to confirm otherwise, much less deny. Lo, the only correct thing you have done is to not take my word for it.

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By its nature, which is nature, the ego is ever the source of karma. What are you doing about it?

Will you continue to wallow in intellectual arrogance, blind belief and dogmatism? Or will you take action and live the Drama of Golgotha?
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Default Re: Aryan Subraces - 03-09-2011, 01:44 AM

We obviously disagree, on some level, about the racial aspects of the Gnostic Teachings.

May I ask what was the original purpose of this thread?

And why have you been apparently the only one to put it so bluntly, that white-European features are the ones that reflect Divinity the most; whereas Samael Aun Weor himself and various Gnostic Instructors have not said it so bluntly, that is if they would even agree with your assertion to begin with?

In other words, if this said assertion is what the Gnostic Teachings see as truth (whether it is actually true or not), then why don't Gnostic Instructors who claim to be in contact with Samael Aun Weor come out and say it?

Is it because if they did come out and say it, that they know that other races (and white European who sympathize with other races) would abandon the Gnostic Teachings?
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Rev. M. Rodimer, I don't know how many times I have to emphasize that H.P. Blavatsky wrote that only some African tribes are devolving. It's not racism, because she never said that they are devolving because of their race. H.P. Blavatsky also wrote that there are many people of the white race on this planet who are devolving.
So you're saying this is not a true quote from her book?

"Mankind is obviously divided into god-informed men and lower human creatures. The intellectual difference between the Aryan and other civilized nations and such savages as the South Sea Islanders, is inexplicable on any other grounds. No amount of culture, nor generations of training amid civilization, could raise such human specimens as the Bushmen, the Veddhas of Ceylon, and some African Tribes, to the same intellectual level as the Aryans, the Semites, and the Turanians so called. The 'sacred spark' is missing in them and it is they who are the only inferior races on the globe, now happily -- owing to the wise adjustment of nature which ever works in that direction -- fast dying out. Verily mankind is 'of one blood,' but not of the same essence. We are the hot-house, artificially quickened plants in nature, having in us a spark, which in them is latent." - H.P. Blavatsky's "The Secret Doctrine", Vol. 2, page 421


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Default Re: Aryan Subraces - 03-09-2011, 04:32 AM

Did you read the quote from H.P Blavatsky's Isis Unveiled which I've quoted in my recent posts? I don't agree with everything that H.P. Blavatsky wrote either. However, perhaps there are some tribes and groups of people whose Buddha-Nature or divine "spark" is currently in a state of devolution. Although again, H.P. Blavatsky also wrote that many people of the white race's "spark" is currently in a state of devolution too (see the said earlier-posted Isis Unveiled quotes). And, in the very The Secret Doctrine quote that you just quoted, she wrote that only some African tribes are devolving, which implies that many African tribes are not devolving. Therefore she did not say that devolving tribes are devolving because of their race; so her saying that they are devolving, is therefore not racist. If she wrote that they were devolving because of their race (which would be a racist statement), she would not have said that only some African Tribes are devolving. Meaning that she obviously did not say that the tribes who are devolving, are devolving because of their race or skin color. Does this make sense?
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Did you read the quote from H.P Blavatsky's Isis Unveiled which I've quoted in my recent posts? I don't agree with everything that H.P. Blavatsky wrote either. However, perhaps there are some tribes and groups of people whose Buddha-Nature or divine "spark" is currently in a state of devolution. Although again, H.P. Blavatsky also wrote that many people of the white race's "spark" is currently in a state of devolution too (see the said earlier-posted Isis Unveiled quotes). And, in the very The Secret Doctrine quote that you just quoted, she wrote that only some African tribes are devolving, which implies that many African tribes are not devolving. Therefore she did not say that devolving tribes are devolving because of their race; so her saying that they are devolving, is therefore not racist. If she wrote that they were devolving because of their race (which would be a racist statement), she would not have said that only some African Tribes are devolving. Meaning that she obviously did not say that the tribes who are devolving, are devolving because of their race or skin color. Does this make sense?
That quote said nothing about "devolving". It said they were inferior and could never be brought up to the level of the superior races, but thankfully, they were dying out rapidly.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?


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