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Moderate, so-called Christians are in danger of hell fire! -
01-10-2010, 01:50 PM
Their obvious cherry-pickin' has endangered their souls!
They are making excuses, and lurkin' about with the unsaved..... they better repent!
Jude
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
I tell you they are guilty heretics! 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. 8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Jude
16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage. 17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
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Re: Moderate, socalled christians are in danger osf hell fire! -
01-10-2010, 01:54 PM
Oh my dearest Jeusus, please forgive me for getting emotional and making a typo(boo-boo) on the title of my thread. I thank ya lord for thy redeemin' power! Amen
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Re: Moderate, socalled christians are in danger osf hell fire! -
01-10-2010, 02:07 PM
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Oh my dearest Jeusus, please forgive me for getting emotional and making a typo(boo-boo) on the title of my thread. I thank ya lord for thy redeemin' power! Amen
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I capitalized Christian for you, don't worry.
Be mindful of your Shift key, young friend.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Moderate, so-called Christians are in danger of hell fire! -
01-10-2010, 11:21 PM
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Their obvious cherry-pickin' has endangered their souls! They are making excuses, and lurkin' about with the unsaved.....they better repent!
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I agree with you 101%
It is most grevious that so many so-called Christians today have not even read The Book, and so cannot begin to adhere to it.
It's like the "actors" one always sees in coffee houses in the middle of the day, claiming to all present that they are "actors". (I'm just picking one of the most obvious examples of The False.)
These people say they are "actors", but what have they acted in? Was it one little thing in a classroom, or on public access television, 3 years ago? Do they live the life of an actor? Are they actors today? Do their tax returns show them to indeed be actors...or really waiters/handymen/layabouts?
The same is true with the current crop of "Christians". What was the last True Christian™ act they performed? The last Scriptural words they uttered? Do they live and breathe the life of a Christian? Do their tax returns indicate they are Christians?
As we may ask the braying "actor" in the coffee house, Where can we see you act?, we may well ask the modern, self-proclaimed "Christian", "Where can we see you act Christian?"
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Re: Moderate, so-called Christians are in danger of hell fire! -
01-18-2010, 09:45 PM
I agree completely.
Most so-called Christians think they are saved just because they talk the talk and wear some decadent gold-plated cross.
They do not realize that they are destined to exactly the same hell as non-Christians. See my signature for details.
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Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.
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Re: Moderate, so-called Christians are in danger of hell fire! -
01-18-2010, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Justamop
Their obvious cherry-pickin' has endangered their souls!
They are making excuses, and lurkin' about with the unsaved..... they better repent!
Jude
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
I tell you they are guilty heretics! 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. 8
Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Jude
16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage. 17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
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I fail to see how any of this pertains to what you describe as "cherry-picking Christians".
Yours in confusion,
Sam
Proverbs 25:21-22 If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink:
For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee.
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Re: Moderate, so-called Christians are in danger of hell fire! -
01-18-2010, 10:20 PM
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I agree completely.
Most so-called Christians think they are saved just because they talk the talk and wear some decadent gold-plated cross.
They do not realize that they are destined to exactly the same hell as non-Christians. See my signature for details.
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Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Praise the Lord of Hosts! I knew there was a decent sweet Christian inside of you somewhere. Indeed, false Christians are on the path to hell as they have not done works.
As Matthew 7:9-10, 20 says,
Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
Wherefore by their fruits (works) ye shall know them.
See you at this Sundays bake sale to benefit Haiti,
Sam
Proverbs 25:21-22 If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink:
For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee.
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Re: Moderate, socalled christians are in danger osf hell fire! -
01-19-2010, 05:53 AM
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I capitalized Christian for you, don't worry.
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wait, why would you capitalize christian when it's used to denote false christians? Should only be capitalized when speaking of True Christians, in my opinion. If anything, Hell should be capitalized, being a proper noun and a very grave matter.
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Re: Moderate, socalled christians are in danger osf hell fire! -
01-19-2010, 06:34 AM
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wait, why would you capitalize christian when it's used to denote false christians? Should only be capitalized when speaking of True Christians, in my opinion. If anything, Hell should be capitalized, being a proper noun and a very grave matter.
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You have a point, but the reference to Christ is still worthy of capitalization. The word "false", however, must never be capitalized, except if it's the first word in a sentence.
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Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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Re: Moderate, so-called Christians are in danger of hell fire! -
06-10-2013, 11:16 PM
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I fail to see how any of this pertains to what you describe as "cherry-picking Christians".
Yours in confusion,
Sam
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Well Jude is a particularly good example isn't it. The lascivious men are obviously not Christians. How have they cherry-picked God's Inerrant Word you ask?
By ignoring the bit about not being lascivious, as I should have thought was obvious.
They ignore passages where God condemns adultery. They carry on with one another's wives or with one another and rely on the "forgiveness" of Christ to set matters straight when they are finished. Haiti would in fact be a good example. From the falsehood of syncretism, more or less identical with the rites of popish catholicism (except the papists have no connection at all to the actual ministry of Jesus), it was a short step to universal prostitution and witchdoctor worship. If they had not deselected the majority of God's Just Law their island would be a testimony to His mercy. But no, like you they looked for (and found) some text or other to justify their base desires. Jude bears witness:
5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. Having decided to follow your own lusts, lusts which I will point are ABSENT in any actual Christian, then everything you do or seee or hear becomed warped. Can you look at woman without re-interpreting Scripture so that you may drool and pass "remarks"? you can not.
When 2 (or 3 or 20) perverts seek affirmation for some sort of "union" and the possible iterations of such a quagmire beggars belief just look around you in any upmarket retail outlet, is there a customer not obsessed with depravity (except Christian customers) of course not. They either reject God outright or choose only those parts of The Gospel seeming not to revile the behaviours they choose. That's why it's called cherry picking and that's why Jude wrote:
17–18 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. AV I don't suppose you have Jude in your "Bible" do you, too choleric for your liking? Or some watered down version. Honestly, nothing would surprise me.
Here's the whole text.
I hope that is halpful.
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Re: Moderate, so-called Christians are in danger of hell fire! -
07-01-2013, 12:59 AM
Why is it that in Genesis, it's said the God made beast before man but then contradicts itself by saying it made man after beast?
GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
I know that you take the readings of the Bible literally, so could you explain this?
Mark 9:43-48
... into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
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Re: Moderate, so-called Christians are in danger of hell fire! -
07-01-2013, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor
Well Jude is a particularly good example isn't it. The lascivious men are obviously not Christians. How have they cherry-picked God's Inerrant Word you ask?
By ignoring the bit about not being lascivious, as I should have thought was obvious.
They ignore passages where God condemns adultery. They carry on with one another's wives or with one another and rely on the "forgiveness" of Christ to set matters straight when they are finished. Haiti would in fact be a good example. From the falsehood of syncretism, more or less identical with the rites of popish catholicism (except the papists have no connection at all to the actual ministry of Jesus), it was a short step to universal prostitution and witchdoctor worship. If they had not deselected the majority of God's Just Law their island would be a testimony to His mercy. But no, like you they looked for (and found) some text or other to justify their base desires. Jude bears witness:
5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. Having decided to follow your own lusts, lusts which I will point are ABSENT in any actual Christian, then everything you do or seee or hear becomed warped. Can you look at woman without re-interpreting Scripture so that you may drool and pass "remarks"? you can not.
When 2 (or 3 or 20) perverts seek affirmation for some sort of "union" and the possible iterations of such a quagmire beggars belief just look around you in any upmarket retail outlet, is there a customer not obsessed with depravity (except Christian customers) of course not. They either reject God outright or choose only those parts of The Gospel seeming not to revile the behaviours they choose. That's why it's called cherry picking and that's why Jude wrote:
17–18 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. AV I don't suppose you have Jude in your "Bible" do you, too choleric for your liking? Or some watered down version. Honestly, nothing would surprise me.
Here's the whole text.
I hope that is halpful.
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Thank you. So, God doesn't know what lust feels like, is that what it's saying?
Mark 9:43-48
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Re: Moderate, so-called Christians are in danger of hell fire! -
07-01-2013, 01:09 AM
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Thank you. So, God doesn't know what lust feels like, is that what it's saying?
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God knows everything.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Moderate, so-called Christians are in danger of hell fire! -
07-01-2013, 01:12 AM
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God knows everything.
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It said it was a sin to feel lust, so if God knows that, it must mean he isn't all good. Am I wrong?
Mark 9:43-48
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Re: Moderate, so-called Christians are in danger of hell fire! -
07-01-2013, 01:15 AM
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It said it was a sin to feel lust, so if God knows that, it must mean he isn't all good. Am I wrong?
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Yes, you are.
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Isaiah 55:8-9: For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Moderate, so-called Christians are in danger of hell fire! -
07-01-2013, 01:18 AM
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Yes, you are.
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Explain why.
Mark 9:43-48
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Re: Moderate, so-called Christians are in danger of hell fire! -
07-01-2013, 01:24 AM
Wow, I've just realised how rife your Bible is with contradictions.
EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (EXO 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (EXO 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (GEN 32:30)
God CANNOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (JOH 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (EXO 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1TIM 6:16)
I can't say that reading the Bible has resulted in some kind of epiphany.
Mark 9:43-48
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Re: Moderate, so-called Christians are in danger of hell fire! -
07-01-2013, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Teenaged Shaun
Wow, I've just realised how rife your Bible is with contradictions.
EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (EXO 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (EXO 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (GEN 32:30)
God CANNOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (JOH 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (EXO 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1TIM 6:16)
I can't say that reading the Bible has resulted in some kind of epiphany.
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There are NO contradictions in the Holy Bible.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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