[Benedict A. Davis]

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

So, a girl, walking down the street. And let me make this clear, there are girls raped all the time, that are NOT dressed as whores!! She's walking down the street, guy comes and attacks her. She's screaming and shouting for help, kicking and fighting back and it's her fault?

Point out the exact phase in the bible that's says this? And the exact phase that says she has to marry the guy? Please, I do not know the bible that well, but I bet that it does NOT in any way mean that it's ok to rape ANYONE!!

rape...i will share this copy with you GOD=life

I would like to present several results of my extensive study on the topic of rape that I will present at a conference. I hope this helps all the Christian fathers to make sure their daughters are safe.

I will give you the summary first, then cite secular sources and then explain why our daughters have almost 0% chance of being raped. Also note that to avoid any semblance of bias, I will cite only non-Christian and secular sources.

SUMMARY

Factors that increase the chance of being raped:

1. Dressing provocatively and/or sending mixed signals
2. Not being under the watch of a father or husband
3. Associating with people without morals (atheists, etc)
4. Associating with homersexuals and abortionists
5. Going to college
6. Not praying to God for protection
7. Using any kind of contraceptive
8. Consuming alcoholic beverages and/or taking drugs
9. Being out on the street at 3am
10. Being exposed to pro-promiscuity liberal media

Now by themselves, each factor my only increase the chance slightly, but almost all "victims" have a lifestyle that consists of a combination of these factors.

Various Reasons

1. About 9% of all women have frequent fantasies of being raped. They want it to happen to them.
2. When a woman commits adultery, she will say that she was "raped" when caught
3. When a woman is ashamed of her one-night stand, it will suddenly be a "rape"
4. When a foolish 18-year-old man has sex with his consenting 17-year-old girlfriend, secular law calls it statutory rape, even though no actual rape took place
5. The majority of rapes are not reported (for obvious reasons)
6. The woman was somehow offended and wanted to take revenge at the man, even though he was innocent

Consequences

1. Thousands of men are known to be freed based on DNA evidence for a crime the did not commit. In the meantime, they were raped in prison, even though their only fault was that they could not afford a hot-shot lawyer
2. Many men have lost their jobs, families, freedoms or even lives based on rape allegations that later turned out to be false
3. Even if a man wishes to take responsibility (e.g. through marriage), secular law blocks him from doing so

REFERENCES
This articlestates the following: "A recent analysis of 20 studies over the last 30 years indicates that between 31% and 57% of women have rape fantasies, and these fantasies are frequent or preferred in 9% to 17% of women. Considering that many people are ashamed to report rape fantasies, these stats are most likely lowball figures."

Taking the lower bound of 9%, we arrive at approximately 10 million women in the USA alone who are aroused by the idea of being raped. It is only logic that this translates into slutty lifestyle choices.

Another article states the following:

• 84% of women knew their attacker -- so they had already associated with them
• 57% happened on a date -- another risky undertaking
• 1 in 12 male students on colleges were (attempted) rapists

And another makes the following statements:

• 20% to 25% of college women are raped during their college career
• Alcohol is involved in 75% of attacks

WHY OUR DAUGHTERS ARE SAFE

When consulting a variety of sources, several factors keep returning. They all involve a combination of lifestyle choices that our own daughters do not have:

• They do not go to college but are homeschooled
• They are under the protection of their father or husband
• They do not use any drugs or alcohol
• They do not wear slutty clothing
• They read the KJV 1611 Bible as soon as they can read (coincidentally, this is also why they can out-spell any atheist)
• And above all: they are protected by God

What the bible says about rape

1. Doing your best to prevent a crime from happening does not equal condoning that crime
2. The Bible does not condone rape. Deuteronomy clearly mentions the death penalty for rape in various circumstances -- sometimes only for the rapist and not for the woman
3. The Bible tells us to follow secular law (i.e. unlike Catholics who protect pedophiles, we would report rapists)
4. The study is about minimizing the chance to be raped. Based on secular statistics, I have identified some of the most common factors.
5. We want our True Christian daughters to be as safe as possible -- if you want your atheist/non-Christian daughters to be safe too, you would be wise to follow this study
6. Did you know that according to secular statistics, there is a 20-25% chance that your daughter will be raped or sexually assaulted if she goes to college?
7. According to secular studies, 1 in 12 men at college qualify for the legal definition of rapist
8. What is or isn't moral is defined by God through the Bible

What the bible says about marriage to a rapist
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (King James Version)


28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

How about a child? If man rapes a 4 or 11 yo child? Did she deserve that?

The Bible is unclear on the age, but it is clear on that the girl cannot be the man's daughter, step daughter or daughter-in-law.

Such a man would deserve death, according to the scriptures.

[Benedict A. Davis]

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

I'm sorry, I have to post few times now, since this got to my attention..

You're talking about hate? Hatefull life leads hell and so on.. Also I've been told a million times how god loves everyone, god IS love.

You have a whole section in this forum telling "god hates.." where you can find most of the countries in the world, all kinds of people.. How is that good?

There is no doubt in my mind, that if you people really and truly believe all this stuff, you're in desperate need of help and finding you're sence of reality. I'm so sorry for every poor soul that can not use their own sence of reason and right and wrong. There's no moral in YOUR life, since you can not justify your means your self. If god says kill and rape, you do it. That's being stupid, not religious.

Religions and laws are made to proteck and guide to be good and right to one and other, and you're not doing that. I do wosh that this forum is existing just to tease people and wind them up. But if there's one person who does believe in things like this, I hope you die.

You seem angry/
We do not hate, God does.If you hate us that is ok too the Bible tells us-
Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

If only you would read the entire Bible and understand it as we do it would truly open your eyes to the ways of Christ.

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

I'm sorry, I have to post few times now, since this got to my attention..

You're talking about hate? Hatefull life leads hell and so on.. Also I've been told a million times how god loves everyone, god IS love.

That's not really how always Jesus was. He was a harsh task master as well. I just wish you would read the Bible, but I'm going to point out certain verses for you to get started.

Sorry so NIV.

Originally Posted by Jesus

Matthew 15
15Peter said, "Explain the parable to us." 16"Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them. 17"Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body?
21Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, "Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession."
23Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."
24He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
25The woman came and knelt before him. "Lord, help me!" she said.
26He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
27"Yes, Lord," she said, "but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table."
28Then Jesus answered, "Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted." And her daughter was healed from that very hour.

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

You have a whole section in this forum telling "god hates.." where you can find most of the countries in the world, all kinds of people.. How is that good?

There are many things God hates.

Proverbs 6
16 There are six things the LORD hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
17 haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19 a false witness who pours out lies
and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

There is no doubt in my mind, that if you people really and truly believe all this stuff, you're in desperate need of help and finding you're sence of reality. I'm so sorry for every poor soul that can not use their own sence of reason and right and wrong. There's no moral in YOUR life, since you can not justify your means your self. If god says kill and rape, you do it. That's being stupid, not religious.

Who are you to question the Word of God?

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

Religions and laws are made to proteck and guide to be good and right to one and other, and you're not doing that.

Post scripture or it didn't happen.

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

I hope you die.

How kind, tolerant and Christ-like of you.

[Victim of religious]

"who are you to question god?"

I am a person. I believe you're blind and stupid if you don't question things. I could never, ever force my daughter to marry a rapist, who has hurt my child the most dirtiest way. EVER.
I actually don't believe in god, though I am very interested in religions and people who do believe. I would so very much like to understand, why would anyone blessed with ability to think as man do, throw them selves in the hands of some book. And I KNOW there was, or is not a living person who has seen god, or can any way prove that god exists. And do not say bible proves it, cause that is just idiotic.

I am not christ-like, and if it means being like you people, I would jump off a cliff. If I could get to you, I would do anything in my power to open the eyes of the women, and take them away.

At this point, -if you let me come back- I'd like to know what you people will tell the children, when they're older? How mommy and daddy met? Were they in love like people in tales? "no, actually daddy just decided that he has a right to rape mommy, and then they got married since otherwise mommy would burn in hell!" Isn't it lovely, your kids will be so happy, and sane...

[Benedict A. Davis]

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

"who are you to question god?"

I am a person. I believe you're blind and stupid if you don't question things. I could never, ever force my daughter to marry a rapist, who has hurt my child the most dirtiest way. EVER.
I actually don't believe in god, though I am very interested in religions and people who do believe. I would so very much like to understand, why would anyone blessed with ability to think as man do, throw them selves in the hands of some book. And I KNOW there was, or is not a living person who has seen god, or can any way prove that god exists. And do not say bible proves it, cause that is just idiotic.

I am not christ-like, and if it means being like you people, I would jump off a cliff. If I could get to you, I would do anything in my power to open the eyes of the women, and take them away.

At this point, -if you let me come back- I'd like to know what you people will tell the children, when they're older? How mommy and daddy met? Were they in love like people in tales? "no, actually daddy just decided that he has a right to rape mommy, and then they got married since otherwise mommy would burn in hell!" Isn't it lovely, your kids will be so happy, and sane...

You want to know what the Lord thinks of anyones' thoughts, please read this God HATES Rational Thinking!

[GOD=life]

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

I believe you're blind and stupid if you don't question things.

You can question things, but you cannot question God. The Bible clearly and unequivocally states that in certain circumstances, your daughter has to marry her rapist.

If you disagree with the Bible, then fine. Just don't expect God to accept you into Heaven.

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

I actually don't believe in god

Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

And do not say bible proves it, cause that is just idiotic.

That fallacy is called "poisoning the well".

Perhaps rational discourse is not your thing either?

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

I am not christ-like, and if it means being like you people, I would jump off a cliff. If I could get to you, I would do anything in my power to open the eyes of the women, and take them away.

Frankly, it seems to me that you have some personal issues that you're dealing with. Your life will be better with God in it.

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

Isn't it lovely, your kids will be so happy, and sane...

Do you really need to attack our children for the sake of argument? Haven't you done enough damage to Mrs. Palin already??

If you have an issue with Christians, take it out on adults, OK?

Better yet, take it out on God. Then God will comfort you and take away your pain.

[stupidcLJnt]

A man forced himself upon a young girl and you think he
should get the reward.
God would be disappointed.
Your values are piffleed.
You purposefully misinterpret the bible so that you can feel
justified for fantasizing about raping women.


Have fun in hell jackass!

[Victim of religious]

Originally Posted by GOD=life

You can question things, but you cannot question God. The Bible clearly and unequivocally states that in certain circumstances, your daughter has to marry her rapist.

If you disagree with the Bible, then fine. Just don't expect God to accept you into Heaven.


Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.


That fallacy is called "poisoning the well".

Perhaps rational discourse is not your thing either?


Frankly, it seems to me that you have some personal issues that you're dealing with. Your life will be better with God in it.


Do you really need to attack our children for the sake of argument? Haven't you done enough damage to Mrs. Palin already??

If you have an issue with Christians, take it out on adults, OK?

Better yet, take it out on God. Then God will comfort you and take away your pain.

Actually, if you read very carefully, I DO take it out on you adults. I'm worried about the poor kids, who will be scarred for life, if they ever knew that they were conceived by act of hate and oppression. They weren't wanted, they are a result of violence.

I have no idea what Mrs. Oalin has to do with this matter...

And I do not have any issues with me, or my personal life. I'm actually very happy, mother of two and wife of a man who did not rape me. He does not bully me and he takes me as equal partner in our marriage. We do not decide who our kids should marry or in what they should believe in. We use our head and common sence to live, not to harm anyone, but to do the best we can. God has nothing to do with it.

[Nobar King]

Originally Posted by stupidcLJnt

Have fun in hell, jackass!

In America we use punctuation. I don't know what a hell jackass is, but I suspect that your parents might know.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by stupidcLJnt

You purposefully misinterpret the bible so that you can feel
justified for fantasizing about raping women.

Actually, women are usually the ones having the fantasies about being raped. Why else would there be so many rapes? If women didn't want to be raped, they wouldn't be out walking the streets without their husbands or fathers, would they?

Originally Posted by stupidcLJnt

Have fun in hell jackass!

I thank you for your persecution.

Matthew 5:10 (King James Version)

"Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

[Victim of religious]

So what you're saying is that I should never go out without my husband??

HAHAHAHAAAHAHA!! That is just hilarious!

I pity you! Or actually I find you irrogant, chauvinist and stupid. It's the women I pity. I hope they could somehow find their own sence and kick your nuts.

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

So what you're saying is that I should never go out without my husband??

Do you not agree that you would be much safer if escorted by your husband or a male relative?

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

HAHAHAHAAAHAHA!! That is just hilarious!

Why do you think I escort my daughter and nieces to my left and a step behind me? It's, of course, so I can draw my pistol and have a clear shot if any rapists or thieves try to accost them.

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

I pity you! Or actually I find you irrogant, chauvinist and stupid. It's the women I pity. I hope they could somehow find their own sence and kick your nuts.

Why would they? We keep them safe.

[Victim of religious]

Do you not agree that you would be much safer if escorted by your husband or a male relative?

Well, it might be true. But everyone should be free to walk where they wish.
If someone would rape a woman, that someone does wrong, and should go to prison, not marry the poor girl.


Why do you think I escort my daughter and nieces to my left and a step behind me? It's, of course, so I can draw my pistol and have a clear shot if any rapists or thieves try to accost them.

Yeah, you might do that. But how humiliating is it, that they have to do that?? That is WRONG! And shooting someone is also a crime, and killing is a sin, isn't it?


Why would they? We keep them safe.

Why? If they would get raped, they would have deserved it? You said that.

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

Well, it might be true. But everyone should be free to walk where they wish.

In a perfect world, that would be the case, but as we know mankind is not perfect.

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

If someone would rape a woman, that someone does wrong, and should go to prison, not marry the poor girl.

I'm failing to see where this is a punishment for the girl. She get taken care of for the rest of her life and the man can never put her away all her days.

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

Yeah, you might do that. But how humiliating is it, that they have to do that?? That is WRONG!

Why is it humiliating? There's a reason for everything. It's so they don't get in my line of fire.

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

And shooting someone is also a crime, and killing is a sin, isn't it?

Neither is the case when it is in self defense.

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

Why? If they would get raped, they would have deserved it? You said that.

It would be my fault that I didn't protect them and allowed them to leave unescorted.

[Victim of religious]

I feel so bad, for people who let them selves to be guided by the bible, that says those horrible things.. Men I understand better, it's all good for them. But for women..

I know, I am sensible, fair and kind and I don't need god or anything to tell me how to do that. It's common sence, everyone has that, unless they give it up for something that's not real and concrete.

I don't know why I bother, to try and understand these things..since I never will.

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

I feel so bad, for people who let them selves to be guided by the bible, that says those horrible things.. Men I understand better, it's all good for them. But for women..

It's such a pity when a young lady is so eager to throw herself into the fiery pits of hell.

[Victim of religious]

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

It's such a pity when a young lady is so eager to throw herself into the fiery pits of hell.

You see; I don't believe in god. That means I don't believe in hell either.

If I get it wrong, then it's hell for me! I still rather use my brains and RATIONAL thinking, even for this once!

[GOD=life]

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

You see; I don't believe in god.

But God does believe in you.

Never forget that.

I will ask my youngest son, Timothy, to pray for you. So that tonight, when you go to bed, you won't sleep alone, but in the arms of Jesus Christ.

[Sister Charli]

Originally Posted by Victim of religious

It's the women I pity. I hope they could somehow find their own sence and kick your nuts.

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

Why would they? We keep them safe.

Hello Victim.

Yes you are. A victim. And I pity you.

I would never ever go out without Daddy.

I might be getting on in years but am still considered attractive to men.

I can but assume that you are so butt ugly that no man would consider a sexual act with you.

And that is why you feel safe going out unescorted.

I hope this realisation is not too painful for you.

Praise Jesus's name.