[Meek and Humble]

Originally Posted by Mew2

That's a little impossible, seeing as how "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."

She didn't say we never sinned in our whole lives. She said we never sinned since becoming True Christians. The Bible says that once a person is saved they will never sin. In fact, if they do sin, that means they were never really saved.

Romans 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.


1 John 3: 6Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.


1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

3 John 1:11Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God

[Moo2]

No, she clearly said "have never sinned." That implies all your lives.

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Mew2

No, she clearly said "have never sinned." That implies all your lives.

and? Jesus washed our sins away. Means it never happened.

[Meek and Humble]

Originally Posted by Mew2

No, she clearly said "have never sinned." That implies all your lives.

She said "None of us True Christians have ever sinned." Before we were True Christians is another story.

[Mazz...]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Lady, you're going to have to make posts with proper American grammar, spelling and punctuation if you want Jesus to listen to your mindless rants.

Exactly which parts of the Holy Word of God do you find to be "sick and twisted?"

Aren't I right in thinking that Jesus spoke Hebrew? In which case the Bible is merely a translated version and not 100% accurate, especially as Hebrew isn't spoken any more. So some people have basically guessed at what may or may not have been in the original Bible.

Whatever the case, Jesus didn't speak American, so I doubt he'd listen to any rant, mindless or not. And if he's the all-loving, all-forgiving saviour that you claim he is, surely he'd listen to anybody, and wouldn't simply throw them out because they forgot to capitalize the beginning of a sentence or put a full stop (or 'period') at the end.

Am I also right in thinking if Jesus came from the Middle East, he could not have been white in skin, despite common belief?



And just for the records, I don't know much American grammar, because I'm from the UK. So if my grammar, spelling or punctuation isn't perfect, I apologise; it's the best I can do.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Mazz...

Aren't I right in thinking that Jesus spoke Hebrew? In which case the Bible is merely a translated version and not 100% accurate, especially as Hebrew isn't spoken any more. So some people have basically guessed at what may or may not have been in the original Bible.

You couldn't possibly be wronger. The Hebrew language was not even in use at the time Jesus arrived on the scene. But it is in fact still spoken today by thousands of joos. Better do a bit of research before opening your mouth.

Originally Posted by Mazz...

Whatever the case, Jesus didn't speak American, so I doubt he'd listen to any rant, mindless or not. And if he's the all-loving, all-forgiving saviour that you claim he is, surely he'd listen to anybody, and wouldn't simply throw them out because they forgot to capitalize the beginning of a sentence or put a full stop (or 'period') at the end.

The Bible tells us that God cares about every detail. He is a detail-oriented God.

Originally Posted by Mazz...

Am I also right in thinking if Jesus came from the Middle East, he could not have been white in skin, despite common belief?

Please take a look at THIS thread on that very topic.

Originally Posted by Mazz...

And just for the records, I don't know much American grammar, because I'm from the UK. So if my grammar, spelling or punctuation isn't perfect, I apologise; it's the best I can do.

You're doing better than 99% of the unsaved scum who occasionally infest our Godly forum. Just try and resist the superfluous overuse of the letter "U" and you'll get by.

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Mew2

No, she clearly said "have never sinned." That implies all your lives.

That's not what the Bible says. The Bible is what we go by.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

It truly amazes me this discussion has gone to over 600 posts. It seems like an open and shut case to me. God has commanded a rapist to marry the woman he has raped. End of story. That's the Word of God© and we should follow it. So much needless debating on here. Pointless!

[unknownfind404]

Originally Posted by Rev. Jim Osborne

It truly amazes me this discussion has gone to over 600 posts. It seems like an open and shut case to me. God has commanded a rapist to marry the woman he has raped. End of story. That's the Word of God© and we should follow it. So much needless debating on here. Pointless!

The word of God...Bibles were written by none other than MAN himself. To boot, Christianity and Catholicism has taken traits from other religions to minimize the impact of transition when settlers first came to other lands and said "you follow MY God or you die."
Hence traditions such as Easter. Easter eggs- the symbol of fertility, life, and birth.
Rabbits (the Easter bunny) represented since rabbits mate and reproduce quickly. Thus, Pagans would carry symbols of these animals in hopes to promote fertility, so they could have children.

That's just one example out of many more.



From the start of this thread- You make it sound as if this girl was saying "Oh hi, I want you to ruin my life." Since she 'teased' and lulled him to "sin". What a ridiculous assumption.
It's called a Rapist. And it isn't about sex, or wanting to reproduce. Most cases of rape are about a man wanting to feel powerful. And by doing so, he does it in the most humiliating way possible. Forcing himself on someone who isn't willing.


For you people to sit there and say "make her marry him" is NOT very Christian, and whatever church you people ARE with; I'll assume is a cult.
Rape was not only discouraged in the bible- as already stated by a few other posters. But is also ILLEGAL in the U.S.A- so if your such a proud patriotic American, then you'll know that what the male did is illegal and needs some jailtime.

The mental and physical trauma of having a man slam his penis into one of the more tender places of your body over and over- AGAINST your will.
Sweet Jesus, I don't even want to imagine...

And to make matters worse, the poor girl is pregnant... Now, not only has she been taken advantage of and humiliated by a man she doesn't love, and probably never wanted to have sex with in the first place; but is now carrying a BABY of such a confrontation.
And you people are telling her to KEEP it?! I can understand your means of not wanting to kill another life, but if anything, I'd let her give birth, then put it up for adoption.

I do not know the girl who is the victim (and yes, she IS the victim. Not the rapist) But I figure if her FAMILY and herself is against abortion; then let her give it to a family who will truly love the child and raise it.
If she keeps it against her will, more than likely the child will grow up neglected and unloved.



For even suggesting that the MAN in this situation is a "victim" is ridiculous. What, he bumped into her and his penis just slipped and fell into her repeatedly? I think not.

[unknownfind404]

And just a quick addition here...
"unknownfind404 Unsaved trash
Under Investigation"

Unsaved trash? Well now. I thought fellow Christians were supposed to be kind,loving, and forgiving people?
This only truly shows me what manner of group you truly are.

[agnostically correct]

Originally Posted by Brother_Percy

You make it sound like this girl is a 'rape-victim'. Let's be clear here, the ONLY victim of rape is the man. He is the one who let this little temptress tease him into committing sin, and he is the one the courts victimize and throw into prison, when this girl was probably dressed as a whore and just asking to be raped. If girls didn't dress like prostitutes and sluts, poor men like this wouldnt fall into their trap. It's up to the girl to do the right thing, she obviously led this man on, and she should have to deal with the consequences. You play, you pay!

Do you realize how utterly retarded it is to assume she was dressed in a slutty way? How sexist you are for assuming the man shouldn't be responsible for not overcoming his own temptation to sin?

What about the men who rape little girls? Who do you think is responsible when a man rapes a child who doesn't even understand what sex is?

I just hope that if you're one of those men who 'gets led on' and rapes a girl, you pick a girl who's wearing an anti-rape condom-so you can get stabbed but all the little spikes right on your precious manhood.

[Wide-Open]

Originally Posted by agnostically correct

I just hope that if you're one of those men who 'gets led on' and rapes a girl, you pick a girl who's wearing an anti-rape condom-so you can get stabbed but all the little spikes right on your precious manhood.

That's just digusting! Little girls shouldn't put things in their cooters, spikey or not. That's ... fornication!

[agnostically correct]

Originally Posted by Wide-Open

That's just digusting! Little girls shouldn't put things in their cooters, spikey or not. That's ... fornication!

Of course the little girl wouldn't have that form of defese. If you paid a little more attentio you'd see I was talkig about older women when it came to the anti-rape condom, by saying that the girl who 'leads him on' as he put it would be wearing it. Little girls that don't kow what sex is could certainly never 'lead a man on'.

[CreamCorn]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Listen up feminazi; secular laws vary from place to place. Here in Freehold, we model our ordinances on the Holy Word of God. Our goal is to get the US constitution scrapped and the KJV1611 Bible replace it as the law of the land.

Now don't you have a floor to scrub? Do you even have your husband's permission to be posting here?

Wow, so rape is perfectly legal where you are? That's a worry!

[listless]

so let us normal human beings get this atright, you condone rape is that it? or you think that a man chooses a woman to be his by raping her..

Ill tell you what to do if she doest marry her rapist...be grateful

[eliot mayfield]

Originally Posted by agnostically correct

Of course the little girl wouldn't have that form of defese. If you paid a little more attentio you'd see I was talkig about older women when it came to the anti-rape condom, by saying that the girl who 'leads him on' as he put it would be wearing it. Little girls that don't kow what sex is could certainly never 'lead a man on'.

Really?

[CreamCorn]

Originally Posted by eliot mayfield

Really?

Other than the fact this picture is clearly photoshopped, do you like it ya sick fool?!

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by lister

so let us normal human beings get this atright, you condone rape is that it? or you think that a man chooses a woman to be his by raping her..

Ill tell you what to do if she doest marry her rapist...be grateful

Rape is not alright; it is a crime against the woman's father.

The rapist must make good with the injured party; the father by paying him monetary compensation and marrying the daughter since no one wants a rape victim as a wife.

[listless]

you are lucky my freind, luck you dont live near me, this site has the balls to let you post a picture of a child...a CHILD as a way of trying to condone rape...

[CreamCorn]

Originally Posted by lister

you are lucky my freind, luck you dont live near me, this site has the balls to let you post a picture of a child...a CHILD as a way of trying to condone rape...

Did that picture really look real to you? It's been photoshopped.