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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
06-15-2009, 01:25 PM
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Yeah, I've been asking God to get back to me but never really got a response, so I can't really take it up with him. Sorry, hon, I have to ask you directly.
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God only answers those that seem to care what he has to say. You being a non-believing heathen, have demonstrated to Him that you do not care what He has to say. So, anytime you make a request, He will ignore you. If you change your ways and (honestly) believe in Him, he will respond to you. Do not expect Him you speak to you immediately. He has faced billions of "here today, gone tomorrow" converts and so time must pass and you must demonstrate your faith to convince Him you are True Christian™.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
06-15-2009, 02:35 PM
Rape is illegal in the United States of America. Since you are all so well "informed" with the laws of the Lord, maybe you should become more well informed with the laws of your own country. If you are a citizen of the United States, it is your duty to your country to abide by those laws. This means convicting a rapist and sending him to jail. Not once in the Bible does it mention that a woman has to marry her rapist. In fact, a woman should be able to marry whomever she wants to marry. It is her choice, just like it is a man's choice. Women and men are equal. What if a woman raped a man? Would he have to marry her? Hypocrisy is lying not only to others, but also to yourself. And lying is a sin in the eyes of the Lord.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
06-15-2009, 03:01 PM
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Rape is illegal in the United States of America. Since you are all so well "informed" with the laws of the Lord, maybe you should become more well informed with the laws of your own country. If you are a citizen of the United States, it is your duty to your country to abide by those laws. This means convicting a rapist and sending him to jail. Not once in the Bible does it mention that a woman has to marry her rapist. In fact, a woman should be able to marry whomever she wants to marry. It is her choice, just like it is a man's choice. Women and men are equal. What if a woman raped a man? Would he have to marry her? Hypocrisy is lying not only to others, but also to yourself. And lying is a sin in the eyes of the Lord.
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You may have noticed but the KJ Bible and many laws in the U.S. are not in agreement with each other. For example: Abortion is legal. However, even masturbation as well as abortion are sins under God punishable by death! Under the KJ Bible a man may have many wives at the same time, but not in America. (Unless you're a Mormon.) So, what is Hypocrisy? The good news here is most rapists do not want to marry the woman they violate. They kill them instead (that is ok if they were whores or nonbelievers). Of course, statistics do show lots of these unfortunate women are in abusive relationships with a "boyfriend" and it this friend who rapes them. That's because she probably does not listen and isn't worthy of marriage due to her bad attitude and lack of Faith.
You see, I want Salvation and you are not going to get it with that attitude of yours around here. Look at the negative crap on my point card and all I did was come here looking for a cuddly warm place to tell my cat story. Fess up - you either follow the rules according to KJB or be damned.
(I still have not figured out how to use the Bible quotes properly yet - maybe tomorrow.)
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06-15-2009, 04:09 PM
you people are sick how would you like to get raped its against the law and thats all there is to it. and you cant sell somone you stupid f***s umm ya i think slavery went out in the 1800s you all should burn in hell
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
06-15-2009, 04:20 PM
You are just upset you are an uneducated "special needs" person. Take your meds and go eat your checkers.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
06-15-2009, 07:06 PM
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God only answers those that seem to care what he has to say. You being a non-believing heathen, have demonstrated to Him that you do not care what He has to say. So, anytime you make a request, He will ignore you. If you change your ways and (honestly) believe in Him, he will respond to you. Do not expect Him you speak to you immediately. He has faced billions of "here today, gone tomorrow" converts and so time must pass and you must demonstrate your faith to convince Him you are True Christian™.
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Yeah, well, isn't that kinda this turning into a chicken and the egg thing here?
Truth is, I was totally sincere before. I begged and pleaded for Jesus to help me. I got no answer. I was in a terrible place, emotionally, in tears on nearly a daily basis and Jesus actually did less to comfort me than my teddy bear. When I finally did look for answers about why God wasn't there for me, I realized there is no God and I have to take care of things myself.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
06-15-2009, 07:28 PM
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Yeah, well, isn't that kinda this turning into a chicken and the egg thing here?
Truth is, I was totally sincere before. I begged and pleaded for Jesus to help me. I got no answer. I was in a terrible place, emotionally, in tears on nearly a daily basis and Jesus actually did less to comfort me than my teddy bear. When I finally did look for answers about why God wasn't there for me, I realized there is no God and I have to take care of things myself.
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God is not fair, no one ever said He was.
Look at it this way. Most people on earth burn him. God has a calloused attitude. Can you blame Him? So he is naturally cautious. Ever notice haw many criminals got to jail and then find 'God'? Pretty convenient. God knows better and ignores these heathens until they have righted their wrongs and then continued on the righteous path. After a long while, God can feel comfortable in opening up. Rome was not built in a day, God's acceptance is not gained in a day either.
Lastly, how do you know Gods intention was not "I have to take care of things myself". Did you make the right choices when faced with this fork in the road of life?
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
06-15-2009, 07:34 PM
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God is not fair, no one ever said He was.
Look at it this way. Most people on earth burn him. God has a calloused attitude. Can you blame Him? So he is naturally cautious. Ever notice haw many criminals got to jail and then find 'God'? Pretty convenient. God knows better and ignores these heathens until they have righted their wrongs and then continued on the righteous path. After a long while, God can feel comfortable in opening up. Rome was not built in a day, God's acceptance is not gained in a day either.
Lastly, how do you know Gods intention was not "I have to take care of things myself". Did you make the right choices when faced with this fork in the road of life?
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Depends. What were the "right choices?"
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
06-15-2009, 07:45 PM
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Depends. What were the "right choices?"
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Only God and you know the answer to that. I am just a man online. You are alive, appear to have most of your mental facilities, seem happy, so my guess would be you made the right choice. Do you think you made the right choice?
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
06-15-2009, 07:55 PM
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Only God and you know the answer to that. I am just a man online. You are alive, appear to have most of your mental facilities, seem happy, so my guess would be you made the right choice. Do you think you made the right choice?
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Very happy. But I didn't follow what most people think the Bible wanted of me.
Seems to me, I'm alot happier following Satans' path for my life. Yay Satan!
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
06-15-2009, 08:01 PM
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Very happy. But I didn't follow what most people think the Bible wanted of me.
Seems to me, I'm alot happier following Satans' path for my life. Yay Satan!
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Satan's path is one of instant gratification. Like eating a doughnut. A minute on the lips, a lifetime on the hips.
So many today are of the 'entitled lifestyle'. Nothing is worked for, people think they are owed this and that simply by being alive. Eventially, the bill comes due. In your case, it will be upon death. Bring spf 1,000,0000
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
06-16-2009, 01:53 AM
My question is, who would WANT to marry someone that has taken their honor by force? I understand it's against God's will to murder an unborn child, but who would wish that upon someone? Honestly, I think that the people on this thread that are pushing for her marriage to this pervert are sick. It's her choice whether she wants to press charges or not. It's her choice whether she wants to abort that baby or not. NOBODY can take your GOD GIVEN RIGHT OF FREE CHOICE. I can't support any of this by scripture because, honestly, I haven't read the Bible since I was three. And I don't really believe in God either, but seriously. Don't any of you have ANY common sense at ALL? How would YOU feel if some man or woman forced you to have sexual intercourse with them. It's happened to me. And it's NOT pretty. It takes a serious toll on the mental stability of people. And having that poor girl MARRY the guy that did that to her? What do you think is going to happen if they unite in holy matrimony? He'll end up beating her every day of her life and probably the child, too. Just think about this.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
06-16-2009, 02:16 AM
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My question is, who would WANT to marry someone that has taken their honor by force? I understand it's against God's will to murder an unborn child, but who would wish that upon someone? Honestly, I think that the people on this thread that are pushing for her marriage to this pervert are sick. It's her choice whether she wants to press charges or not. It's her choice whether she wants to abort that baby or not. NOBODY can take your GOD GIVEN RIGHT OF FREE CHOICE. I can't support any of this by scripture because, honestly, I haven't read the Bible since I was three. And I don't really believe in God either, but seriously. Don't any of you have ANY common sense at ALL? How would YOU feel if some man or woman forced you to have sexual intercourse with them. It's happened to me. And it's NOT pretty. It takes a serious toll on the mental stability of people. And having that poor girl MARRY the guy that did that to her? What do you think is going to happen if they unite in holy matrimony? He'll end up beating her every day of her life and probably the child, too. Just think about this.
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Well, you may not like it. I may not like it but it is the word of God. Read it in the KJ Bible or search the threads here for Pastor Zeke's sermons - I also downloaded a searchable version of the KJ Bible and it is in there. So, now what? If that is the word of God and it is pretty damn clear, what would you like to do. It does sort of change ones perspective as God as this warm fuzzy guy who is there to make us all feel good. Anyway, I do not know why you are worried. Most rapists do not want to marry their conquest and it is there choice not hers. You should be glad we have laws created by man to fill in the gaps here and make some of feel better for the moment. But that does not mean it is God's will or his word. My personal take is if a man does this, he is obligated to provide for the woman, to feed and cloth her as long as she pleases him. Considering the cost of living today and how bitchy and slutty some of the female unsaved, I guess that would be for the man to deal with.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
06-16-2009, 07:26 AM
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Well, you may not like it. I may not like it but it is the word of God. Read it in the KJ Bible or search the threads here for Pastor Zeke's sermons - I also downloaded a searchable version of the KJ Bible and it is in there. So, now what? If that is the word of God and it is pretty damn clear, what would you like to do. It does sort of change ones perspective as God as this warm fuzzy guy who is there to make us all feel good. Anyway, I do not know why you are worried. Most rapists do not want to marry their conquest and it is there choice not hers. You should be glad we have laws created by man to fill in the gaps here and make some of feel better for the moment. But that does not mean it is God's will or his word. My personal take is if a man does this, he is obligated to provide for the woman, to feed and cloth her as long as she pleases him. Considering the cost of living today and how bitchy and slutty some of the female unsaved, I guess that would be for the man to deal with.
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Alright, why is it the MAN'S choice to marry whomever he pleases, but women have no choice in the matter? That's entirely unfair...I HAVE read the KJ Bible and not one place says, "Thou should unite in holy matrimony with thy rapist who stole your honor and dignity". I KNOW God isn't warm and fuzzy. LOOK AT THIS WORLD. Look at all the shit that's going on. But I don't see how GOD could want a woman to marry her rapist. I just can't fathom or grasp that concept.
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06-16-2009, 09:46 PM
I dont dig this, you saying someone raped your daughter and your trying to make her marry him, or is it her bf and they had some fun and your saying he raped her???
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06-16-2009, 10:13 PM
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I dont dig this, you saying someone raped your daughter and your trying to make her marry him, or is it her bf and they had some fun and your saying he raped her???
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I take it you have difficulties reading.
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06-17-2009, 12:29 AM
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I dont dig this, you saying someone raped your daughter and your trying to make her marry him, or is it her bf and they had some fun and your saying he raped her???
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Sweet Jesus you're an ugly troll! While I am certainly not a subscriber to evolution, in your case I might be willing to believe that your grandfather was a gorilla.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
06-18-2009, 02:16 PM
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Tell the parents to Invite the unfortunate Man around for Dinner. I'm sure given time that the Slut Girl will come around and see some common sense and get to like him.
He obviously finds her attractive.
On no account should she be allowed to murder the child.
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if he raped her im not sure she would be considered a slut.
i agree on every other account she should marry him i just dont believe someone making her have sex with him warrants her to be called a slut she is in a difficult emotional position and i understand her postition fully
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06-18-2009, 08:12 PM
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Also, she might be able to spare that poor man prison time if she doesn't cry rape.
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Spare him some prison time??
what is wrong with you. He should be in prison, It would be wrong for her to marry him, you should not let someone that raped her get away with it. It would be wrong for a man that raped a young boy to get away with it, why is it fine for a man that rapes a girl and gets her pregnant? It is immoral. It would also be sinful to let him get away with this, and make this poor girl live with him and support him? This is so wrong, you people have the worst morals, and you go to church everyweek? God would be so upset with you. you are so blind. Why would she go to you for help?
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06-18-2009, 08:14 PM
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Spare him some prison time??
what is wrong with you. He should be in prison, It would be wrong for her to marry him, you should not let someone that raped her get away with it. It would be wrong for a man that raped a young boy to get away with it, why is it fine for a man that rapes a girl and gets her pregnant? It is immoral. It would also be sinful to let him get away with this, and make this poor girl live with him and support him? This is so wrong, you people have the worst morals, and you go to church everyweek? God would be so upset with you. you are so blind. Why would she go to you for help?
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Sir, what exactly is your point? Please don't ramble so.
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