[baseballdad]

Good day fellow baptists my name is Steve im a 47 year old father of 1 boy (age 10) and 1 girl (age 15 ) husband of Helen my kids and my wife know not to disobey or they get put in their place have a good day

[Basilissa]

Hi Steve, and to God's favorite forum! Please do tell, which verse of the Holy Bible do you call your favorite? What church do you attend? And how did you come to find Jesus?

[Isabella White]

Well, hello to you, dear Mr. Steve, and to . I'm so very pleased that you have found us in our sacred space within the vast interwebs galaxy. Thank you for sharing a bit of your background for us. My, how it is so nice to know that you have a lovely home life, with your wife and kiddies. I wonder if I might ask what your favorite is, and which church you are attending currently?

May bless you richly, Dear, as you fellowship with us, here, at .

[baseballdad]

isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. I go to the white oak run baptist church . i found our lord and savor as my parents are also baptist and i was baptised at the age of 10

[MitzaLizalor]

Hi .. Isaiah is always encouraging. So many people say that if Jesus was so important, why didn't the Hebrew sources provide sufficient information for 1st century Jewry to identify Him?

Satan is the answer here. And in Isaiah are preserved many elements of Christ's character, His mission and the circumstances of His birth, needed for recognition. All that's required is to read it.

Perhaps they had..read it? I don't know. But they rejected Christ despite the evidence as He walked among them, recorded so that we will know, just as prophecy was recorded so that they..would know, yet still so many people say He was never important at all.

That is why Isaiah is always so encouraging. Have you read Jeremiah?

[baseballdad]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

Hi .. Isaiah is always encouraging. So many people say that if Jesus was so important, why didn't the Hebrew sources provide sufficient information for 1st century Jewry to identify Him?

Satan is the answer here. And in Isaiah are preserved many elements of Christ's character, His mission and the circumstances of His birth, needed for recognition. All that's required is to read it.

Perhaps they had..read it? I don't know. But they rejected Christ despite the evidence as He walked among them, recorded so that we will know, just as prophecy was recorded so that they..would know, yet still so many people say He was never important at all.

That is why Isaiah is always so encouraging. Have you read Jeremiah?

I have read every word in the King James Bible my mom would have beaten me if i didn't this is my favorite verse from the book of Jeremiah 31:22 How long will you wander, unfaithful Daughter Israel? The LORD will create a new thing on earth— the woman will return to the man.”

[weirdcouple (On Moderation)]

Originally Posted by baseballdad

Good day fellow baptists my name is Steve im a 47 year old father of 1 boy (age 10) and 1 girl (age 15 ) husband of Helen my kids and my wife know not to disobey or they get put in their place have a good day

welcome steve

[Basilissa]

You seem to have a good grip of the Holy Bible, Steve. Please feel free to post in any thread you wish. At this stage you are not allowed to create new threads but you can post in any thread. (Many of the newcomers are godless hellbound heathens, which is why we are quite cautious, you understand).

[Martha Chump]

Originally Posted by baseballdad

Good day fellow baptists my name is Steve im a 47 year old father of 1 boy (age 10) and 1 girl (age 15 ) husband of Helen my kids and my wife know not to disobey or they get put in their place have a good day

Hi Steve! Welcome!


I feel I've seen your face before on TV.


That Chris Hansen show...what's it called. The one where he makes visitors sit on a stool.

[baseballdad]

Originally Posted by Basilissa

You seem to have a good grip of the Holy Bible, Steve. Please feel free to post in any thread you wish. At this stage you are not allowed to create new threads but you can post in any thread. (Many of the newcomers are godless hellbound heathens, which is why we are quite cautious, you understand).

I completely understand i've seen some already but most of the people here have been quite nice may god bless you

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by baseballdad

I have read every word in the King James Bible my mom would have beaten me if i didn't :thumbsup: this is my favorite verse from the book of Jeremiah 31:22 How long will you wander, unfaithful Daughter Israel? The LORD will create a new thing on earth— the woman will return to the man.”

Fortunately I never required discipline for reading too little. Isaiah was the first book I read all the way through when I was about 8 but I've also read other passages. For a while at home there was an attempt to introduce The New English Bible so out of deference I read that too. Later on I purchased a random selection of English translations from a university bookshop which is how I discovered The Jerusalem Bible ©1966 and even before the NEB fiasco I'd seen a Revised Version in a rural Methodist Church. Perhaps my disposition to read up before arguing with adults, citing comparative references throughout, warranted discipline - but for not..reading? Wasn't gonna happen.

Like you, I have read every word in the King James Bible and I can remember what I've read. But this post isn't about me. Here are some different renditions of the Jeremiah passage you cited:

Revised Version How long wilt thou go hither and thither, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall encompass a man.

New English Bible ‘How long will you vacillate, you who were once like an unfaithful daughter? For I, the Lord, promise to bring about something new on the earth, something as unique as a woman protecting a man!’”

Amplified Bible “How long will you hesitate [to return], O you faithless and renegade daughter? For the Lord has created a new thing in the land [of Israel]: A woman will encompass (tenderly love) a man.”

Jerusalem Bible ©1966 How long will you hesitate, disloyal daughter? For Yahweh is creating something new on earth: the Woman sets out to find her Husband again.

Authorized Version (King James) How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.

• NIV How long will you wander, unfaithful Daughter Israel? The LORD will create a new thing on earth— the woman will return to the man.

I have read every word in the King James Bible my mom would have beaten me if i didn't :thumbsup: this is my favorite verse from the book of Jeremiah 31:22
How long will you wander, unfaithful Daughter Israel? The LORD will create a new thing on earth— the woman will return to the man.”

I have read every word in the King James Bible my mom would have beaten me if i didn't :thumbsup: this is my favorite verse from the book of Jeremiah 31:22 How long will you wander, unfaithful Daughter Israel? The LORD will create a new thing on earth— the woman will return to the man.”

Can you see the problem?

[James Hutchins]

Hello Steve

[baseballdad]

yes I see the problem I had to use a digital bible sadly and I couldn't find the authorised version i had left my bible at church and in my old age ny memories a bit foggy i found it and I was going to fix it but I remembered (for once) that I can't edit i'm sorry for it. if I came across as a liar I can assure you that was is not the case I would rather go out to drinks with bing crosby then lie

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Originally Posted by baseballdad

yes I see the problem I had to use a digital bible sadly and I couldn't find the authorised version i had left my bible at church and in my old age ny memories a bit foggy i found it and I was going to fix it but I remembered (for once) that I can't edit i'm sorry for it. if I came across as a liar I can assure you that was is not the case I would rather go out to drinks with bing crosby then lie

Hello Stephen. I see you wear glasses. Have you ever fallen in a ditch? Or led anybody else to fall into a ditch, hole or pit?

Matthew 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

I'm not saying that you are a teacher and have a preoccupation with the blind but I think the question has merit.

[MitzaLizalor]

There's a hover link - if you move the cursor over a reference

Ruth 4:22

it should come up in the preview.



By clicking on the more » link the quote is available to copy.



On that page is a Read more button.
By clicking that you'll get the verse (or verses) in context.

Ruth helps me understand how Jesus was related to Jesse.


Isaiah 11:1-2, 8-9 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: and the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD … And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

[baseballdad]

Ruth 4:22

it should come up in the preview.

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By clicking on the more » link the quote is available to copy.

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Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

There's a hover link - if you move the cursor over a reference

On that page is a Read more button.
By clicking that you'll get the verse (or verses) in context.

Ruth helps me understand how Jesus was related to Jesse.


Isaiah 11:1-2, 8-9 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: and the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD … And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

thank you so much also my glasses are reading glasses but i am not blind

[MitzaLizalor]

I'm always interested in (have always been interested in) the heraldic bestiary. Before people could read (or most people could read) (but you don't need to be literate to draw a griffon) such creatures represented noble families or mental characteristics or military achievements.

A lion (strength) with a human head (intelligence) and a scorpion's (or other) poisonous tail (to squirt venom over its head for obvious reasons) suggests proficiency in battle, in times gone by perhaps: Julius Caesar + some enthusiastic swordsmen + a great big catapult bringing up the rear

or in a later iteration: mental Napoleon + crazed infantry and/or cavalry + marauding under the umbrella of insane artillery (because eventually someone's going to get sick of that and do something about it)

until: any nutter you like in charge + mini subs with a nutter torpedo + you tell them, "we're more nutter than you would you like a demonstration?" + (no thank you)

N̷̡̢͍̼͉̠̰͚͓̫͔̳̰͓̭̯̟͘̕U̵̡͓̝̰̲̕͡ḱ͏̴͔͓͇̬̫̦̲̼̤͔̙͇̰͕̻͖ͅ ͅ-̵̧̡҉̥͓̞͍̰̤̰̺̖͓̗̼͔̰̯͙N̛͉͍̖̙͘U̢̬̯̤̳͔̳̼̪͖̘̤̮̪͓͖͎͢ͅͅK̶ ̷̡̰͔̜̟̬̖̟̤̀͠-̷͈̩̦̩̮͕͍̟͞E͏̷̳̹̺̩̟̤

but sometimes nutter is in the vanguard:

In His Bible, God uses allegory in quite a similar way. Abraham had two sons, The Bible explains, one from the bondmaid one from the free which is an allegory. Galatians 4:22-26

An allegory can be real and symbolic at the same time. Griffons perhaps less so. What is your method of distinguishing between the two? Is Christ's love also an allegory?