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We at Landover Baptist are NOT the Pharisees -
02-06-2021, 04:19 PM
I'm upset over a book that just came out. The title is Are You a Pharisee? The author carries on about Christians who are critical of other Christians. His message is don't point figures. But, he doesn't differentiate between Christians who are correct about the Bible, who are credentialed to criticize others, and those who are not. We here at Landover Baptist are known around the world as the leading experts in the sins of others. We have the responsibility to inform sinners about their dismal lives in eternity.
There are many reasons it is wrong to refer to us as "Pharisees." First, the Biblical Pharisees were Jews. They criticized Jesus. You can see from what the Bible says about them they spent much of their time haggling over prices.
I'm thinking about contacting this author and demanding he include a disclaimer his book is not about the members or clergy of LBC.
RT Kendall releases book tackling problem of Pharisee mentality - The Christian Post
Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Re: We at Landover Baptist are NOT the Pharisees -
02-07-2021, 02:05 AM
Even if one should avoid rebuking Christians, how can such a principle be applied to non-Christians?
Do politicians avoid criticism of communists "because they're politicians too" after all each camp holds opinions they regard as valid?
God understands that people can make mistakes and form erroneous conclusions, which is why He's willing to forgive, even Pharisees. Paul had this as a first hand experience.
Philippians 3:4-8 [Paul writing] Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more: circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee; concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ. DUNG Jesus explained to Paul (who was at the time Saul, a Pharisee) that it was wrong to persecute Christians. As you can see, he thought this was a fine display of zeal for God whereas, in reality, it was opposing God. Then he understood that God is Jesus but how was the message delivered? By being struck down blind! Paul had to be led around like a stumbling thing until God healed him, the result being that his former fancies (for that is what they were) amounted to a stinking pile of excrement. He says so himself. That is a very negative assessment but without criticism, would he ever have learned?
Christians are like that. It is so important for others to understand The Truth but unless corrected, how will any non-Christian ever learn? The Bible presents their current lives as excreta. Perhaps not imagery I'd have chosen but consistent throughout God's Word where false beliefs are concerned. Paul knew that once his error was explained and now we can know too. For those suggesting we should not share our knowledge with others, they really do need to explain why.
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Re: We at Landover Baptist are NOT the Pharisees -
02-07-2021, 03:02 AM
Absurd. There is only ONE way to be a Christian (John 14:6, John 14:15, James 2:10). If a baseball player used a frying pan instead of a bat and tackled the shortstop, would the umpire be out of bounds for criticizing his conduct? Of course not. There is one set of rules for baseball and must be followed by all players. So too with the game of life (2 Timothy 3:16). Follow the Bible or go to Hell. All those Catholics, Lutherans, Methodists, Pentecostals, Presbyterians, Congregationalists, Quakers, Orthodoxers, Pentecostals, Christian Scientists, Amish, Mennonites, Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Anglicans, Coptics, Nondenominationals, Unitarians, Assyrians, Masons, Mormons, Moonies, Ethiopians, Jews for Jesus, and other heretical non-Christians are in for a fiery awakening. WE are Christians. WE follow the rules. THEY spurn the rules, so they're not playing the game, which means they can't win and WILL suffer eternally for it. Praise the Lord on high!
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Re: We at Landover Baptist are NOT the Pharisees -
02-08-2021, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold
I'm upset over a book that just came out. The title is Are You a Pharisee? The author carries on about Christians who are critical of other Christians.
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Jesus was critical of the Pharisees, the Sadducees, and the general population. He was "on a Mission" and, to be "on a mission" means that you are going to have to inform people. Informing people will require a contrast between the correct behavior and their present behavior - I see no way around that.
To the same extent, the Pharisees and the Sadducees suffered cognitive dissonance when presented with hard fact that contradicted their lifestyle choices - although the general population welcomed Jesus unreservedly although it has to be admitted that their choice of Barabas can be questioned.
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His message is don't point figures. But, he doesn't differentiate between Christians who are correct about the Bible, who are credentialed to criticize others, and those who are not.
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The message that I take from this is that the writer seems to think that he has some magic decoding ring that tells him, and only him, what a True Christian knows to be so.
This is almost blasphemy - it is almost the same as "assuming that only you know what God means", i.e. that you are God's only Prophet on Earth.
It falls short of blasphemy only in that it has already been revealed to Landover what God "really means", i.e. "What He says in The Bible" - - members of the clergy and congregation will confirm this.
It is thus Landover's job - "mission", if you will - to spread the True Word of The One True God: The words of the Hymn make your point, Mr Mayor:
We are the pure and chosen few
And all the rest are damned
There’s room enough in hell for you
We don’t want heaven crammed.
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Re: We at Landover Baptist are NOT the Pharisees -
02-08-2021, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire
It is thus Landover's job - "mission", if you will - to spread the True Word of The One True God: The words of the Hymn make your point, Mr Mayor:
We are the pure and chosen few
And all the rest are damned
There’s room enough in hell for you
We don’t want heaven crammed.
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That is beautiful Pastor Bathfire. If you include that in a sermon there will be no dry eye in God's house.
Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Re: We at Landover Baptist are NOT the Pharisees -
02-08-2021, 05:33 PM
The one thing we need to remember is that what Jesus had against the Pharisees is that they were not righteous enough:
Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
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