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Default Proof that Purgatory exists - 01-29-2019, 04:16 PM

Greetings Landoverians Baptists,


We already know that Purgatory is in the Bible but it's time to prove it actually exist outside the Bible. Just like the Jew Flavius Josephus proves that Jesus existed outside of the Bible, the jews themselves admits Purgatory exists:


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Jews do believe in a purification (a purgation) which takes place after death. When a Jewish person's loved one dies, it is customary to pray on his behalf for eleven months using a prayer known as the mourner's Qaddish (derived from the Hebrew word meaning "holy"). This prayer is used to ask God to hasten the purification of the loved one's soul. The Qaddish is prayed for only eleven months because it is thought to be an insult to imply that the loved one's sins were so severe that he would require a full year of purification.

As we can see, the original chosen people are aware of what the afterlife looks like. But it's not over yet! Buddhists as well believe in Purgatory and here is the proof:


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Hell is a realm or state of eternal punishment. Buddhism denies the existence of hell but does teach that there is a purgatorial state (niraya). Purgatory differs from hell in four important ways:
  1. According to Buddhism no one judges the dead and casts them into purgatory; rather each individual creates a negative destiny for themselves by their negative thoughts and actions in this life, i.e. their kamma.
  2. Purgatory is not eternal but limited and impermanent like every state. After one’s life-span in purgatory is finished one will be reborn into another state.
  3. The suffering of purgatory is not a ‘punishment’ as in the theistic conception of hell but, as said before, the result of one’s negatives actions.
  4. It is not primarily one’s religious beliefs but one’s actions that conditions whether or not one will be reborn in purgatory.
Thus a good Sikh, Jew or Taoist may well have a good rebirth while immoral or evil people who call themselves Buddhist may be reborn in purgatory. Purgatory is one of the six realms of existence one may be reborn into; the others being the human realm, the heaven realm, the realm of animals, of hungry spirits and the realm of jealous spirits. In some of his statements the Buddha indicated that purgatory is an actual location, while in others he seemed to suggest that it is more a state of mind. For example, he said; ‘Fools say that purgatory is under the sea. But I say that purgatory is really a name for painful experience’ (S.IV,206). To the Buddhist, the idea of an endless hell raises yet more doubts about the existence of a God who is supposedly just and loving.

And with this we have another crushing victory on Jesus side against the apostate schismatic churches. And right in time to wish everyone an Happy Candlemas.
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Default Re: Proof that Purgatory exists - 01-29-2019, 05:39 PM

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We already know that Purgatory is in the Bible
False, as I have demonstrated to you in that same thread.

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the jews themselves admits Purgatory exists:
The Jews also say Jesus was not the Son of God and keep waiting for their Messiah. That proves they are not trustworthy.

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Buddhists as well believe in Purgatory
They also believe in a fat guy who supposedly was ascetic. That proves they're very gullible and therefore not trustworthy.
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Default Re: Proof that Purgatory exists - 01-29-2019, 08:37 PM

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False, as I have demonstrated to you in that same thread.

The Jews also say Jesus was not the Son of God and keep waiting for their Messiah. That proves they are not trustworthy.

They also believe in a fat guy who supposedly was ascetic. That proves they're very gullible and therefore not trustworthy.
Well, if that's not enough, Orthodox Churches also believe in Purgatory (not as a physical place though).


We also have historical writings of the early saints who claimed that praying to the dead leads them to salvation.
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Default Re: Proof that Purgatory exists - 01-29-2019, 08:57 PM

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Well, if that's not enough, Orthodox Churches also believe in Purgatory (not as a physical place though).
So are you saying that they believe in an imaginary place, or what?


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Default Re: Proof that Purgatory exists - 01-30-2019, 10:40 AM

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So are you saying that they believe in an imaginary place, or what?

What i was saying is that they believe that Purgatory is a process, not a place like Pope Benedict XVI explained years ago.
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What i was saying is that they believe that Purgatory is a process...
Where does this process take place then, if it's not in a place?

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.... not a place like Pope Benedict XVI explained years ago.
So why did Pope Ben 16th think it was a place? And who dared to say that the pope was wrong? I thought the whole basis of papist beliefs relied on papal infallibility.

Admit it: you lot just make it up as you go along, to fit in with the latest trends.


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Sinner Proof that Purgatory doesn't exist - 01-30-2019, 06:46 PM

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Greetings Landoverians Baptists,


We already know that Purgatory is in the Bible
No it isn't!


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But it's time to prove it actually exist outside the Bible.
Aaaaaand that's where I stopped reading. See you in Hell, papist. From Heaven.


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Default Re: Proof that Purgatory exists - 01-30-2019, 08:46 PM

Brother Dennis, a mere 16 months ago (long after Pope Ratsinger had quit) this Papist was claiming it was a mountain. He is now claiming that it is a "process" rather than a place. If divination were not a sin, I might be tempted to predict that he will soon be claiming it's some sort of 6-foot invisible rabbit.


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We already know that Purgatory is in the Bible but it's time to prove it actually exist outside the Bible.
With the Lord, things are black or white, good or bad, right or wrong. The Bible is the road-map of life, and like a road-map, it would be of little use if all roads led to Rome, especially if you were late for work in Detroit.

Believing in "purgatory" is not only an error but it is a blasphemy - it denies the inerrancy of God Himself (in His Three Forms).

We have in the OT:
Jeremiah 14:11 Then said the LORD unto me, Pray not for this people for their good.
14:12 When they fast, I will not hear their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation, I will not accept them: but I will consume them by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence.


and in the NT

2Pe:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

The point of this is that you should live a Godly life in this World that you may reach Paradise in the Hereafter.

There is no use in thinking that after a certain amount of time, and good behavior, like some liberal State, God will change His Perfect Mind about how good you have been, and let you out from the Eternal and Burning Pits of Darkness, Despair, and Pain.

And don't think that your goddess Mary is going to help you:

Joh:2:3: And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.
Joh:2:4: Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
Joh:2:5: His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.


Note that she did not say Joh:2:5: "Ooo, don't worry, I'll get Him to do a miracle, do you want a bucket of chicken as well?"

So much for "intercession".

No, my delusional papist,Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

God means what he says and say what he means, how else, but with such evenness of character and consistency, can He show us His Love?





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The Jews also say Jesus was not the Son of God and keep waiting for their Messiah. That proves they are not trustworthy.
Not to mention the fact that they MURDERED the Son of God, and that all modern Jews are accountable for this act of deicide (Matthew 27:25). And that God specifically tells us that Jews can't be trusted and we shouldn't listen to their lies (Titus 1:14).


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Sinner Re: Proof that Purgatory exists - 01-31-2019, 11:21 PM

I Think Purgatory Is Fake! The Bible Dose Not Talk About Purgatory, So Purgatory Is Not Real!
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Default Re: Proof that Purgatory exists - 02-01-2019, 01:10 AM

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The Bible Dose Not Talk About Purgatory, So Purgatory Is Not Real
You make a good point here, though had you handed it in as a first grade writing assignment, you would've received an F. Purgatory is not in the Bible, it is a made up delusion of the Catholics. Why people believe such fairy tale nonsense is completely beyond me.


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Love Jesus Re: Proof that Purgatory exists - 02-01-2019, 02:58 PM

I know Right! Also I have ADHD, so give me a break about my grammar!
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Default Re: Proof that Purgatory exists - 02-02-2019, 05:07 AM

You do realize ADHD stands for Addled Demonic Hogwashed Degenerate? A made-up condition by Jews, New-Ageists and scatter-brained women in menopause as an excuse for their dysfunctional preference for sin.
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Grammar Nazi Re: Proof that Purgatory exists - 02-02-2019, 06:38 AM

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I know Right! Also I have ADHD, so give me a break about my grammar!
1 Corinthians 14:40 - "Let all things be done decently and in order."


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From the waters lifted me, now safe am I!

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