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Question Who are the Moabites and Ammonites now? - 04-26-2010, 06:21 PM

In Genesis 19 it talks of the daughters of Lot being impregnated by him after they got him drunk on wine. I have two questions--

1)Was their seed cursed that they may not ever have salvation?

2)Who are the descendents now?
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Default Re: Who are the Moabites and Ammonites now? - 04-26-2010, 06:30 PM

Genesis 19-21 is day 7 of our Bible-in-a-year program. Brother V tells us:

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God is merciful to Lot and his daughters:

16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.

(for a discussion of mercy read here)
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Default Re: Who are the Moabites and Ammonites now? - 04-26-2010, 06:38 PM

I was going on Deuteronomy 23:3

An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever:
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Default Re: Who are the Moabites and Ammonites now? - 04-26-2010, 06:56 PM

God hates a lot of nationalities for a lot of reasons, but being inbred has never been one of those reasons. He probably just hated them for failing to be His Chosen People.

Every time someone talks about Moabites I think of the M.O.A.B.: Massive Ordinance Air Burst:



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Default Re: Who are the Moabites and Ammonites now? - 04-26-2010, 07:06 PM

If you look in 1 Kings 14:21-31, you can see that Solomon's heir is half Ammonite. He did a lot of wrong in the eyes of the LORD. So much that the Egyptians sacked Jerusalem.

In Deuteronmy 2, God warns the Children of Israel not to disturb them.


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Default Re: Who are the Moabites and Ammonites now? - 10-28-2010, 09:15 PM

I think I know what they look like, one or the other or both, not sure.... and I could be wrong completely, But I doubt that I'm way off, unless I misfigure Prov 20.11 (and I do believe that the word of God has many levels beyond our present understanding)

I haven't worked out the mathematical ratio in all these years I've researched it, but I think I know what they look like..


According to my theory, basically two measurements are involved.

First: The distance between the bottom of the chin and the hairline above the forehead whether bald or not, there is a line where the type of skin changes..

Second: The distance from temple to temple, the imaginary line even with the center of the eye line.

When compared, the first measurement is unnaturally longer than the second... Anyone else here interested in the long term study of biblical genealogy?

If so have you noticed this?
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Default Re: Who are the Moabites and Ammonites now? - 02-09-2014, 12:19 PM

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If you look in 1 Kings 14:21-31, you can see that Solomon's heir is half Ammonite. He did a lot of wrong in the eyes of the LORD. So much that the Egyptians sacked Jerusalem.

In Deuteronmy 2, God warns the Children of Israel not to disturb them.
Thank you for that information.

I am worried however about how many people lived in the Lot home.
GENESIS 19
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And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:
13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.
14 And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.
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Are these the pouncing daughters from the cave? Or were those two the virgin daughters offered to the savages of Sodom? That would make 4 daughters wouldn't it.

And why was Lot afraid to live in Zoar, which the angels specified as a safe haven. Am I missing something here?
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Default Re: Who are the Moabites and Ammonites now? - 04-19-2017, 03:32 AM

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God hates a lot of nationalities for a lot of reasons, but being inbred has never been one of those reasons. He probably just hated them for failing to be His Chosen People.

Every time someone talks about Moabites I think of the M.O.A.B.: Massive Ordinance Air Burst:



That is an excellent explanation.




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Default Re: Who are the Moabites and Ammonites now? - 01-29-2018, 08:14 PM

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In Genesis 19 it talks of the daughters of Lot being impregnated by him after they got him drunk on wine. I have two questions--

1)Was their seed cursed that they may not ever have salvation?

2)Who are the descendents now?
I have another question. Do the daughters of Lot would be a part of the "Me too" movement, blaming the father for sexual abuse while drunk, given they have been born millennials- from this millenium?


I bet they would.


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