[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by MikiDee

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Welcome friend, glad you could take the time from your busy schedule to visit with Us and God. You when Jesus looks down upon you, He does so with a twinkle in His eye. Don't you think the least you could do is give Him a knowing wink back?

[Morbidpriest]

You guys must pretty upset over the fact that you can't please a woman. Or a little choirboy.

[Sparky]

Originally Posted by markarino

You must be one of those "femanists" that say 2 out of 3 men suffer from premature orgasm. I maintain that no man ever "suffered" from premature orgasm!

I don't the statistic is that high... but men do suffer from premature ejaculation. I mean, what about the ones that voluntarily go to the doctors? They think it's a problem.
Also, how come men are allowed to orgasm but women can't?
Also, wouldn't you want your lover to look like she's enjoying it at least a little?

[honesttogod]

I've read through every post on this thread and it makes me so sad. I could spend a great deal of time on explaining the biology and countering the arguments with Scripture but I doubt that would make the slightest difference to the views expressed here.

Let me ask just two questions.

Do you have the Song of Solomon in your Bibles?

Have you ever read 1 Tim 6:17?

Many of you seem to be missing out on one of those "ALL things" God has given us to enjoy.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by honesttogod

I could spend a great deal of time on explaining the biology pointlessly blaspheming the Lord's word and countering the arguments with Scripture but I doubt that would make the slightest difference to the views expressed here.

Why don't you try us! There's always time for scripture.

2 Peter 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

[honesttogod]

I included two Scriptures already. You might want to respond to those.

But I will not post again because I have recieved an infraction for being "a Sassy-Mouthed Feminazi Bitch," from Pastor Ezekiel. How sad it is that a self-professed man of God should use such language towards a fellow believer made in the image of God.

A dip into the gospels to see how the Lord Jesus dealt with women might be enlightening for you all. He displays none of the anger, bitterness or disrespect that is so blatant on this site.

I pray that you will all grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by honesttogod

I included two Scriptures already. You might want to respond to those.

But I will not post again because I have recieved an infraction for being "a Sassy-Mouthed Feminazi Bitch," from Pastor Ezekiel. How sad it is that a self-professed man of God should use such language towards a fellow believer made in the image of God.

A dip into the gospels to see how the Lord Jesus dealt with women might be enlightening for you all. He displays none of the anger, bitterness or disrespect that is so blatant on this site.

I pray that you will all grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour.

Oh really? Let's open our Bibles and check and see what names Jesus called others.

"DOGS" Matt. 7:6 Jesus said, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs" (see also 2 Peter 2:20-22, Rev. 22:15)
"SWINE" Matt. 7:6 "...neither cast your pearls before swine"
"VIPERS" Matt. 3:7 "O generation of vipers..." (see also Matt. 12:34, 23:33 and Luke 3:7)
"HYPOCRITES" Matt.6:2 "...as the hypocrites in the synagogues..." (see also Matt.6:5, 16, 15:7, 16:3, 22:18, 23:13-15, 29, 24:51, Mark 7:6, Luke 11:44, 12:56)
"CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL" John 8:44 "You are of your father the devil..." (see also Acts 13:10)
"PERVERSE" Mat. 17:17"...O faithless and perverse generation" (see also Luke 9:41, Acts 20:30, Phil. 2:15, 1Tim. 6:5)
"REPROBATE" 2Cor 13:5-7 "...except ye be reprobates" (see also Rom 1:28, 2Tim. 3:8, Tit. 1:16)
"HEATHEN" Mat. 6:7 "...as the heathen do" (see also Mat.18:17, Act 4:25, 2Cor. 11:26, Gal. 1:16, 2:9, 3:8)
"FOOLS" Mat. 23:17 "...Ye fools and blind" (see also Luke 12:20, 1Cor.15:36, Mat.23:19, Luke 11:40, 24:25, Eph. 5:15)
"O YE OF LITTLE FAITH" (Christ's favorite name for His apostles!) Mat.6:30, 8:26, 14:31, etc., etc., etc.
"STIFFNECKED AND UNCIRCUMCISED" Acts7:53 "...stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart"
"LIARS, EVIL BEASTS, SLOW BELLIES" Titus 1:12 (see also 2Peter 2:12, Jude 10)
"ADULTERERS AND ADULTERESSES" Hebrews 13:4 "...whoremongers and adulterers God will judge" James 4:4 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses..." (see also Rom 7:3, Mat. 12:39, 16:4, Mark 8:38)
"WHITED WALL" Acts 23:3 Paul to the high priest .

[honesttogod]

I am now completely convinced this whole site is blasphemous, as I had already suspected.

Your quotes refer mostly to MEN not women.

Try these for size:

Matt 12:7
Luke 6:37
Jn 3:17
Jn 8:1-11
Lk 7:36-50

I thank God for His free gift of salvation by grace through Jesus Christ alone. And I pray that you may receive a full revelation of the justice and mercy of God.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by honesttogod

I am now completely convinced this whole site is blasphemous, as I had already suspected.

Your quotes refer mostly to MEN not women.

Try these for size:

Matt 12:7
Luke 6:37
Jn 3:17
Jn 8:1-11
Lk 7:36-50

I thank God for His free gift of salvation by grace through Jesus Christ alone. And I pray that you may receive a full revelation of the justice and mercy of God.

1 Timothy 2 9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Seems a darned sight more direct and to the point and specifically about how women shoud behave to me than your out of context parade of lack of understanding.

For example, Jesus is not saying the woman had not sinned and did not deserve to die; he is saying that nobody there present was fit to stone her and left her alive to make a point.

He's also rebuking the disciples and the other men present for being shown up by a sinful woman who was repenting, not saying she is above them for having washed his feet.

Has some antichrist woman been preaching to you?

Also let's try some context.

John 8 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.


So let's see how you twist the rest of John 8, shall we? I'm not sure how quoting actual words from God to you is blasphemous.

[Redeemed Papist]

Wait a minute! A woman? In here?

[honesttogod]

I did not say the woman had not sinned. of course she had. And so had the man she was caught with who the men failed to bring to trial as they should have.

Here's the thing, the Lord Jesus Christ, being without sin and being God, had the right to condemn her but chose not too. That's my point. HE FORGAVE HER.

As for the quote from 1 Tim, try reading it in the original Greek rather than in a translation authorised by a 17th Century British king whose sole interest in getting the translation done was to promote the Church of England and diminish the Biblical evidence for orthodox evangelical doctrine. It was a political expedient to help him keep the crown. In many ways it was a good translation but it does have major weaknesses, not the least being that some of the words it uses have changed their meaning in the past 400 years! Not to mention the "unicorns" which is clearly an error.

Now, I really am going to stop posting here as I have better things to do than debate with close minded, self-oppinionated so-called Christians who seem to understand nothing about the gospel of our wonderful Lord Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace and Love incarnate. I genuinely do pray that you will understand the good news of the Saviour who forgives those who truly repent. And I commend to you Paul's epistle to the Galatians which speaks so clearly and powerfully of the liberty we have in Christ.

Ezekiel, I will not call you pastor as you are not acting like one, please feel free to ban me if it makes you feel better. It doesn't matter a jot to me - I am secure in my personal relationship with the Lord Jesus.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by honesttogod

**Blah waffle made up nonsense!**
I am secure in my personal relationship with the Lord Jesus.

Are you really!

I'm not debating with you, I'm warning you. Where did you find out about Jesus? How did you decide to ignore the vast majority of the Holy Bible?

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Kings 2:23-25 23And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. 24And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. 25And he went from thence to mount Carmel, and from thence he returned to Samaria.

So is this true or did someone make it up to be inconvenient to your fluffy bunny made up God? If it's allegorical, what's its message?

Or you could just run away and go to Hell thinking on false prophecy from whoever instructed you in the drivel you've been coming out with.

Unlike you we're not afraid to proclaim the glory of a God whose name is JEALOUS and who will kill you and send you to Hell if you choose wrongly.

[honesttogod]

2 Tim 3:16 is one of my favourite verses because it requires us to take notice of all the Scriptures - those about the wrath and jealousy of God as well as those about the love of God.

God requires perfection from us, that is what the Law is about, that is why we see sinful people being destroyed in the Old Testament. It is the reason for the universal flood, for Lot's wife being turned into a pillar of salt and all the other examples of sinful people being destroyed.

If our salvation depended on us keeping the whole Law none of us would be safe from the wrath of God. For all have sinned (Rom 3:23).

But Jesus instituted a New Covenant/Testament (Lk 22:20). Having lived a perfect life He died on the cross, bearing all our sins and the wrath of God so that we, in accepting His sacrifice for ourselves can be forgiven for all our sins.

As Paul said, we are no longer under Law but Grace (Rom 4:16, Rom 5:20, Rom 6:14-15, Gal 2:21, Gal 5:4). And John says, For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ (Jn 1:17).

"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." Gal 5:14. And who is my neighbour? "Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise." Lk 10:36-37 Keeping the law is about love.

I believe in Hell and I believe the godless will go there. I am no wishy washy liberal. But I also believe in redemption and salvation as taught throughout Scripture (eg Ps 51). It is the free gift of God and not by works (Rom 4). "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Eph 2:8-9.

Having had my sins forgiven and having experienced the love and grace of God, it is my heart's desire to live a life of obedience to Him. I am motivated by love not fear. The Law teaches us what sin is and should put us in fear of the wrath of God. It drives us to the cross, to repentance and to casting ourselves on the gracious mercy of God through the death of our Lord Jesus Christ. That is the Gospel, the Good News. (Gal 3:23-25)

For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God. Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen. Eph 3:14-21

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by honesttogod

2 Tim 3:16 is one of my favourite verses because it requires us to take notice of all the Scriptures - those about the wrath and jealousy of God as well as those about the love of God.

God requires perfection from us, that is what the Law is about, that is why we see sinful people being destroyed in the Old Testament. It is the reason for the universal flood, for Lot's wife being turned into a pillar of salt and all the other examples of sinful people being destroyed.

GLORY friend, the same thing is happening in our America; because so many people have turned their back on our loving Heavenly Father with atheism, feminism, immigration, broken marriages, tax theft, evolution, idolatry, abortions, paganism, racism, unions, pornography, model railroading, murder, socialism, teen pregnancies, and homosexuality that God is FORCED to punish America with all the ills we see today (dare we say Obama tribulation presidency?) We all need to turn back to Jesus because our cities are laid waste and we find ourselves in some kind of Max Max post apocalypse wasteland.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by honesttogod

If our salvation depended on us keeping the whole Law none of us would be safe from the wrath of God. For all have sinned (Rom 3:23).

Is that so!

Oh dear!

Matthew 5 :17-19 17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Guess we've all had it then. Better just set myself on fire.

No, wait!


Matthew 5:10-12 10Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Thanks for persecuting us for not just concentrating on the fluffy bits. It has helped no end.

Luckily for us, because we follow God's commandments to follow all of His scripture:

Romans 6 22But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Meanwhile you who do not, well it's not looking good.

John 3:18-21 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Seeing as you don't really believe in Jesus, well, you've had it really.

[honesttogod]

Matt 5:10-12

Praise God that on this site I am being reviled and men are saying all manner of evil against me falsely for sharing with you the Gospel of grace. I look forward to my reward!

I shake the dust from my feet and move on, but I still pray that you will understand the wretchedness of sin and the glory of God's grace which offers sinners the opportunity of salvation and imputed righteousness through the sacrificial death of our Lord Jesus Christ.

[Redeemed Papist]

This is what happens when you let women think they have something to say.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by honesttogod

Matt 5:10-12

Praise God that on this site I am being reviled and men are saying all manner of evil against me falsely for sharing with you the Gospel of grace. I look forward to my reward!

I shake the dust from my feet and move on, but I still pray that you will understand the wretchedness of sin and the glory of God's grace which offers sinners the opportunity of salvation and imputed righteousness through the sacrificial death of our Lord Jesus Christ.

You are only accepting a certain percentage of the Grace of God. That makes me very sad for you...to come SO close, only to feel the flames licking the soles of your feet right before it consumes your soul. You won't even have an opportunity to tell Jesus why you thought SOME of the things He said were unimportant.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth
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[BubbleBee]

If God did not want women to enjoy being intimate with their husbands, why did he create them so they felt pleasure while doing so?

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by BubbleBee

If God did not want women to enjoy being intimate with their husbands, why did he create them so they felt pleasure while doing so?

Where in the Bible does it specifically state that females derive pleasure from the act of procreation?



Book, chapter, and verse, please.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

P.S. I'd highly recommend that you start a thread of your own in the Introduction Forum telling us about your Walk with Jesus.