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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 02-23-2011, 12:49 PM

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You all disgust me.
A women is not your property, there is a document called 'the universal declaration of human rights' you should read it.
The fact she has been raped is bad enough you should save your oppressive chauvinistic bullshit and let her recover.
Please be sensible and give humanity a chance don't let religion ruin your life.
thanks
That is the sort of advice that gets people into Hell. What would happen if the girl died while she was "recovering"?

The Bible is quite clear: she would go to Hell, to be tormented forever and ever in boiling sulphur! Her only opportunity for redemption is through childbearing. GOD knows that, and He made arrangements for her (possible) salvation. I suppose I need to post the scripture again:

I TIMOTHY 2
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And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.


That is a conditional provision, however. GOD is rather specific here. She must bear children, but also fulfill the other conditions throughout her life. No-one could marry her after she was raped (a deceitful act in itself: the rapee thought she was safe? BANG: raped! - and the woman, being deceived, was in the transgression - in this case by not staying indoors or dressing like a harlot; Christian women do not dress like harlots: whores do) and so the kindest - indeed the ONLY solution - is for her to start childbearing as soon as possible. The Bible tells us that that is to be with the "perpetrator" and to the extent that secular laws suggest otherwise, they depart from GOD's Law. That ALWAYS means HELL.

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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 02-23-2011, 01:01 PM

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You all disgust me.
Thank you for your persecution. Jesus tells us that we are blessed by your persecution:

Matthew 5:10-12:
Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

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A women is not your property, there is a document called 'the universal declaration of human rights' you should read it.
The document you are referring to is a demonic manifest, specifically designed to mock God and His Law in the Bible, which teaches that women can legally be obtained by warfare:

Deuteronomy 21:10-13:
When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.


Sweet Lord Jesus,
I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 02-23-2011, 09:49 PM

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You all disgust me.
A women is not your property, there is a document called 'the universal declaration of human rights' you should read it.
The fact she has been raped is bad enough you should save your oppressive chauvinistic bullshit and let her recover.
Please be sensible and give humanity a chance don't let religion ruin your life.
thanks
I have read it, have you? It's just a bunch of bollocks that the liebral elites have put together, it has no legal bearing whatsoever. Also, if by some magical way that document was put into law, society would fall apart. It basically says that we should all live with an "every man woman and child for themselves" it talks about how everyone has the right to this and the right to that, but not one word about the responsibilities to the community. The document states that everyone has the right to food, whether or not they want to get off their butt to get it.

I guess that's why you lazy liebrals hate the Bible, it speaks more about our responsibilities to our community, our church and our family. How dare we expect you to get off your lazy ass and actually do something with your life.


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 02-23-2011, 11:36 PM

GENESIS 3:17 And vnto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened vnto the voyce of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commaunded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eate of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake: in sorow shalt thou eate of it all the dayes of thy life.
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 03-01-2011, 07:08 AM

I think an important factor in this situation is that if the woman is married, what are the ideas of God then? And also, could you please explain why God is depicted as this image? [Porn link deleted]
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 03-01-2011, 07:15 AM

oh wait, that is an image of a woman who has been brutally raped and then murdered. how can that be justified by God's law? Should the man still try to marry her? What about necrophiliacs? If a man were to rape a dead woman who was a virgin, should he offer 50 sheckles to her father?
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 03-01-2011, 07:20 AM

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oh wait, that is an image of a woman who has been brutally raped and then murdered. how can that be justified by God's law? Should the man still try to marry her? What about necrophiliacs? If a man were to rape a dead woman who was a virgin, should he offer 50 sheckles to her father?
Well first of all, I don't click on any link supplied by unsaved trash. It's probably porn and I'm sick of your kind putting such garbage on there.

Secondly, why don't you figure it out for yourself? Deuteronomy 22 covers it. See this is why you're a liebral, you can't think for yourself. You want to be spoon fed pablum for your entire life. If you would only read the KJV Bible, you would understand these things and could put your childish perverted fantasies behind you.

Sick liebral scum.


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 03-01-2011, 07:24 AM

Also, could i please get an explanation to these verses:

PR 30:5 Every word of God proves true.
1KI 22:23, 2CH 18:22, JE 4:10, JE 20:7, EZ 14:9 God deceives some of the prophets.
JE 8:8 The scribes (copyists, editors, teachers) falsify the word.
2TH 2:11-12 God deceives the wicked (to be able to condemn them).

Being that every word of your God proves true, I find it hard to understand how your God then deceives the wicked and the prophets? Oh wait, that means "His" words aren't all true. Sounds a bit like a contradiction to me..because it is one. Please tell your scribes to write down scriptures that cannot be so easily taken apart.

GE 32:24-30 God takes part in a wrestling match. He wins by injuring Jacob's hip.
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 03-01-2011, 07:31 AM

IS 30:26 The moon will someday be as bright as the sun now is

Not possible, the Sun reflects off the moon to give it a glow. This has been proven, your "God's" theology has not.

MK 16:17-18 Those who believe are able to handle snakes and drink any deadly poison without suffering harm.


Please, try this and show the world what Social Darwinism truly is.


2CO 12:2 There are at least three heavens.


How do I get into all three?
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 03-01-2011, 07:36 AM

Secondly, why don't you figure it out for yourself? Deuteronomy 22 covers it. See this is why you're a liebral, you can't think for yourself. You want to be spoon fed pablum for your entire life. If you would only read the KJV Bible, you would understand these things and could put your childish perverted fantasies behind you.

Sick liebral scum. [/QUOTE]

You gave no answer to my question, just a suggestion. How about, instead of pretending to have knowledge of this issue, you stay out of it, until such time that you are able to answer my question. Also, insulting me does little to my mindset seeing that only the lowest of beings use insults over knowledge. If you can answer my question, do so. If not, I suggest you study up on your bible "True Christian"
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 03-01-2011, 07:39 AM

Awww......... are you having fun copy/pasting from evilbible?

Why don't you go read all of those scriptures in context and find out what they mean? Or is your heart so hardened that you cannot understand the Holy Word© of The Lord?

John 8:42-47 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

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You gave no answer to my question, just a suggestion. How about, instead of pretending to have knowledge of this issue, you stay out of it, until such time that you are able to answer my question. Also, insulting me does little to my mindset seeing that only the lowest of beings use insults over knowledge. If you can answer my question, do so. If not, I suggest you study up on your bible "True Christian"
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You're unsaved scum with no knowledge of the Bible, why should I treat you any better than you deserve? Jesus would call you a dog, if not worse. You're here because you hate Jesus, know that you're a Hell bound sinner and are trying to take as many souls as you can with you. Well it won't work. I'm the one who is supplying scripture, you copy paste from some internet site and claim knowledge?

I showed you where to look for the answers, I told you I wasn't going to feed you pablum as you are obliviously over the age of 2. The answers are in the Bible, if you're too angry and lazy to read it for yourself, why should I bother?


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 03-01-2011, 07:42 AM

Your quote relates little to what you are trying to correct me on...I'm not sure whether you were criticizing me for copying/pasting in order to show the world the falsities in your texts or just a general statement of the fact that I was having quite a bit of fun picking apart your so called sacred texts. Now, if you would stop avoiding my earlier questions, please answer them and enlighten us all holy man.
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 03-01-2011, 07:52 AM

Your moderators seem only to persecute those who only show the true path to being saved...and once again my friend, you have shown no attempt to answer the question posed, but are instead turning to insults in order switch the subject, a common conservative trick. These small-minded games do not work on educated ones however, and I would still like to hear your answer, if you have come up with one yet...
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 03-01-2011, 07:57 AM

Also, a sidebar, you thinking your above me for my copying/pasting of texts from the internet shows how little you know of your own religion. There are 8 primary texts that have been copied and pasted from one another, even changed throughout time to better suit the producers needs. Your text has been changed from its original meaning, perhaps you should look into that.Including the fact that your copying/pasting these texts from either your bible or another website that supplies them.

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Your moderators seem only to persecute those who only show the true path to being saved...and once again my friend, you have shown no attempt to answer the question posed, but are instead turning to insults in order switch the subject, a common conservative trick. These small-minded games do not work on educated ones however, and I would still like to hear your answer, if you have come up with one yet...
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Well it seems that you were banned for promoting your sick fantasies of wanting to rape, murder and then marry women; and thinking that this was the path to Heaven.

Thank The Lord that I have dogs and guns. Sickular freaks like this are why I'm grateful I live in a gated Christian™ community.


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 03-01-2011, 10:27 PM

You still seem to be neglecting the fact that you are not intelligent enough to answer my questions posed earlier. Your simpleton insults don't afflict those who have mind power greater than Jesus himself. You are a dog among men, and I AM WAITING FOR AN ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS. IF YOU CANNOT SUPPLY THOSE ANSWERS ADMIT IT AND STOP BEING A COWARD HIDING BEHIND INSULTS.
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Also, could i please get an explanation to these verses:

PR 30:5 Every word of God proves true.
1KI 22:23, 2CH 18:22, JE 4:10, JE 20:7, EZ 14:9 God deceives some of the prophets.
JE 8:8 The scribes (copyists, editors, teachers) falsify the word.
2TH 2:11-12 God deceives the wicked (to be able to condemn them).

Being that every word of your God proves true, I find it hard to understand how your God then deceives the wicked and the prophets? Oh wait, that means "His" words aren't all true. Sounds a bit like a contradiction to me..because it is one. Please tell your scribes to write down scriptures that cannot be so easily taken apart.

GE 32:24-30 God takes part in a wrestling match. He wins by injuring Jacob's hip.
(that means: this thread is about something else)

try not to take things out of context

Notice how The Bible is consistent?

Now remember how Ahab hates the prophet of the LORD? (I've posted 2 references [ABOVE])
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I KINGS 22: 39 Now the rest of the acts of Ahab, and all that he did, and the ivory house which he made, and all the cities that he built, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Israel?

THAT MEANS HERE:
II CHRONICLES 18
PLEASE ALSO NOTE:
I KINGS 22
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Ahaziah the son of Ahab began to reign over Israel in Samaria the seventeenth year of Jehoshaphat king of Judah, and reigned two years over Israel.
52 And he did evil in the sight of the LORD, and walked in the way of his father, and in the way of his mother, and in the way of Jeroboam the son of Nebat, who made Israel to sin:
53 For he served Baal, and worshipped him, and provoked to anger the LORD God of Israel, according to all that his father had done.


Perhaps you should bear that in mind as you read:

II CHRONICLES 18 (again!)
4 And Jehoshaphat said unto the king of Israel, Enquire, I pray thee, at the word of the LORD to day.
5 Therefore the king of Israel gathered together of prophets four hundred men, and said unto them, Shall we go to Ramothgilead to battle, or shall I forbear? And they said, Go up; for God will deliver it into the king's hand.
6 But Jehoshaphat said, Is there not here a prophet of the LORD besides, that we might enquire of him?

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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 03-01-2011, 10:48 PM

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You still seem to be neglecting the fact that you are not intelligent enough to answer my questions posed earlier. Your simpleton insults don't afflict those who have mind power greater than Jesus himself. You are a dog among men, and I AM WAITING FOR AN ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS. IF YOU CANNOT SUPPLY THOSE ANSWERS ADMIT IT AND STOP BEING A COWARD HIDING BEHIND INSULTS.
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Look, keep your sick fantasies to yourself. I answered your questions, and you ignore my answer. I truly believe that you are demon possessed and incapable of reading the True Word of God.

In fact, I haven't seen any questions, just demands that the Bible is wrong and that I should fall over and worship Satan because an unsaved piece of trash (who can't obey simple forum guidelines) tells me so.


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 03-08-2011, 08:14 PM

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Look, keep your sick fantasies to yourself. I answered your questions, and you ignore my answer. I truly believe that you are demon possessed and incapable of reading the True Word of God.

In fact, I haven't seen any questions, just demands that the Bible is wrong and that I should fall over and worship Satan because an unsaved piece of trash (who can't obey simple forum guidelines) tells me so.


Why do you hate God so much? Did a priest touch you?
Sorry but WHAT?
You guys are saying get your daughter raped and you are saying that guy has sick fantasies, what? Am i the only one who thinks there is something wrong with this?
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 03-08-2011, 11:49 PM

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Am i the only one who thinks there is something wrong with this?
Yes.


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