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02-08-2007, 10:13 PM
We all thought that all homers were limp-wristed little sissies who'd rather cook and sew like Mom than play ball with the guys. Well, unless they're shooting a different kind of hoops!
Somehow, this fellow got lost on his way to the Homo Economics class. Seems he's in good company in the locker room, based on LeBron James' comments!
I've bolded a few key points. First, Martina Navratilova wants to use this as an opportunity to recruit more teens to become homos. Second, LeBron James talks about locker-room perversions, apparently rampant in the NBA. Finally, Steve Hunter discusses the homosexual pornography he watches on television.
It seems Satan can touch fine, upstanding (but unSaved) men anywhere and turn them into lust-crazed homers. This is a warning: Don't turn your back on any unSaved man! Satan may just be waiting for the opportunity to steer that poor man wrong!
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Amaechi will be first publicly gay NBA player
The small, exclusive club of openly gay professional male athletes has a new member.
Former NBA center John Amaechi, who spent five seasons with four teams, on Wednesday became the first NBA player to publicly come out.
John Amaechi averaged 6.2 points and 2.6 rebounds in five NBA seasons. (Douglas C. Pizac / Getty Images)
His admission comes three years after his playing career ended, making him the sixth professional male athlete from one of the four major U.S. sports — basketball, baseball, football, hockey — to openly discuss his homosexuality.
Amaechi details his life in his autobiography "Man in the Middle," which will be released Feb. 14.
"He is coming out of the closet as a gay man," Amaechi's publicist Howard Bragman said.
Martina Navratilova, perhaps the most famous openly gay athlete in the world, praised Amaechi's decision and said it's imperative for athletes to come out because of what she called an epidemic of suicides among young lesbians and gays.
"It's hugely important for the kids so they don't feel alone in the world. We're role models," she said. "He will definitely help a lot of kids growing up to feel better about themselves."
Orlando's Grant Hill, who said he didn't know Amaechi when he was with the Magic, also applauded the decision to go public.
"The fact that John has done this, maybe it will give others the comfort or confidence to come out as well, whether they are playing or retiring," Hill said.
NBA commissioner David Stern said a player's sexuality wasn't important.
"We have a very diverse league. The question at the NBA is always 'Have you got game?' That's it, end of inquiry," he said.
LeBron James, however, said he didn't think an openly gay person could survive in the league.
"With teammates you have to be trustworthy, and if you're gay and you're not admitting that you are, then you are not trustworthy," James said. "So that's like the No. 1 thing as teammates — we all trust each other. You've heard of the in-room, locker room code. What happens in the locker room stays in there. It's a trust factor, honestly. A big trust factor."
Injured Philadelphia Sixers forward Shavlik Randolph acknowledged it's a new situation.
"As long as you don't bring your gayness on me I'm fine," Randolph said. "As far as business-wise, I'm sure I could play with him. But I think it would create a little awkwardness in the locker room."
News that Amaechi had come out surprised some players.
"For real? He's gay for real?" said Philadelphia center Steven Hunter. "Nowadays it's proven that people can live double lives. I watch a lot of TV, so I see a lot of sick perverted stuff about married men running around with gay guys and all types of foolishness."
Even so, Hunter said he would be fine with an openly gay teammate.
"As long as he don't make any advances toward me I'm fine with it," he said. "As long as he came to play basketball like a man and conducted himself like a good person, I'd be fine with it."
Orlando's Pat Garrity acknowledged reaction was bound to vary throughout the league.
"They would have teammates that would accept them for being a good person and a good teammate, and there would be people who would give him a hard time about it," he said. "I think that's true if you're playing basketball or in an office job. That's just how the world is right now."
In his book, Amaechi describes the challenge of being gay in a league where it's assumed all players are heterosexual. He describes the blatant anti-gay language and attitudes he experienced in NBA locker rooms.
"We're all insensitive at times. There's no taboo subject in the locker room," said Celtics coach Doc Rivers, who coached Amaechi in Orlando, where he said he had one of his strongest locker rooms. "I think if he would have come out they would have got on him jokingly. ... And I actually think that when guys do come out, when that day happens, it will make it easier."
Amaechi also writes that while playing in Utah, coach Jerry Sloan used anti-gay innuendo to describe him. Sloan said Wednesday that although his relationship with Amaechi was "shaky" because of the player's attitude, he didn't know Amaechi was gay. Sloan had no comment about Amaechi's contention that Sloan used anti-gay innuendo when referring to him. Amaechi said he found out about it in e-mails from friends in the Jazz front office.
Asked if knowing Amaechi was gay would have mattered, Sloan said: "Oh yeah, it would have probably mattered. I don't know exactly, but I always have peoples' feelings at heart. People do what they want to do. I don't have a problem with that."
Former NFL running back David Kopay came out in 1977; offensive lineman Roy Simmons and defensive lineman Esera Tuaolo came out more recently. Glenn Burke, an outfielder for the Los Angeles Dodgers and the Oakland A's in the 1970s, and Billy Bean, a utility player in the 1980s and 1990s (not the current Oakland general manager), also have come out.
Each did so after retiring. Burke died of complications due to AIDS in 1995.
Amaechi, 36, who was raised in England, writes in the book that he never touched a basketball before the age of 17. A quick study despite being a "terrible athlete," he found his confidence in the game and made it his goal to play in the NBA.
He competed for Penn State, then played in 301 NBA games over five seasons. The 6-foot-10 center averaged 6.2 points and 2.6 rebounds. He began his career with the Cleveland Cavaliers in 1995-96, then spent a few years playing in Europe. He rejoined the NBA to play for the Orlando Magic from 1999-01, then played two seasons for the Utah Jazz. The Jazz traded him to Houston, which traded him to the New York Knicks. When the Knicks waived him in January 2004, he retired. Amaechi came out of retirement to help England's men's basketball team win the silver medal in the 2006 Commonwealth Games in Melbourne, Australia.
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02-08-2007, 11:32 PM
Men running around in shorts or tight pants, jumping on and around each other? Sports is a homer paradise!
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02-09-2007, 12:06 AM
They need to find JESUS and stop playing with their balls!
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02-16-2007, 01:11 AM
In even more disturbing news, a pro-family basketball player has come forward and exercised his right to free speech over this issue... and, needless to say, the sodomite bigwigs of the NBA are persecuting him for it. From Fox News:
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Ex-NBA Star Tim Hardaway: 'I Hate Gay People'
Thursday, February 15, 2007
MIAMI — Retired Miami Heat guard Tim Hardaway said Wednesday that he hates gay people, but later said he regretted the remarks.
"You know, I hate gay people, so I let it be known. I don't like gay people and I don't like to be around gay people," he said while a guest on Sports Talk 790 The Ticket. "I'm homophobic. I don't like it. It shouldn't be in the world or in the United States."
The discussion was sparked by last week's announcement that retired NBA center John Amaechi is gay.
The host asked Hardaway how he would interact with a gay teammate.
"First of all, I wouldn't want him on my team. And second of all, if he was on my team, I would, you know, really distance myself from him because, uh, I don't think that is right. I don't think he should be in the locker room while we are in the locker room."
If he did find out that a teammate was gay, Hardaway said he would ask for the player to be removed from the team.
"Something has to give," Hardaway said. "If you have 12 other ballplayers in your locker room that's upset and can't concentrate and always worried about him in the locker room or on the court or whatever, it's going to be hard for your teammates to win and accept him as a teammate."
Amaechi also detailed his life, in his autobiography "Man in the Middle," which was released Wednesday. He hoped his coming out would be a catalyst for intelligent discourse.
"I'm actually tempted to laugh," Amaechi told The Miami Herald. "Finally, someone who is honest. It is ridiculous, absurd, petty, bigoted and shows a lack of empathy that is gargantuan and unfathomable. But it is honest. And it illustrates the problem better than any of the fuzzy language other people have used so far."
Hardaway later apologized for the remarks during a telephone interview with FOX affiliate WSVN in Miami.
"Yes, I regret it. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said I hate gay people or anything like that," he said. "That was my mistake."
Hardaway has reportedly been removed from further league-related appearances.
"It is inappropriate for him to be representing us given the disparity between his views and ours," NBA commissioner David Stern said in a statement to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.
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02-16-2007, 01:24 AM
So this David Stern guy just said that the NBA supports and likes gays..... I'd suspected beofre, but this proves it.
GO Hardaway, and Praise Jesus!
"If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservant's do."
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02-16-2007, 03:14 AM
Hardaway has no backbone. I positively hate when people backtrack. If you have the balls to make the comments, you should have the balls to stand by your comments. Nobody should be able to back you into a corner and make you apologize.
How utterly spineless these 'people in the spotlight' are.
To tell the truth I don't blame Hardaway and the other players actually. I'd be understanding but still annoyed that the gay man hid all this.
I think people should be allowed to 'come out'. They should not be denied entry but they should be quarantined to another areas. Especially if we're talking same-sex quarters, here.
Allow me to explain:
When I first went through basic training for the U.S. Air Force , we had a lesbian or two in my flight.
Here's where the problem came into play: We all dressed around each other. We had community showers. As many as 15 women at a time piled into one shower.
Everyone saw everyone else's 'hoo-hoo's'.
Accept myself and a few others.
You must understand that at the time I was not as I am today. I was a good Baptist Christian girl--thus, I made sure to soap my body eyes shut while facing the wall.
However--
>>sigh<<
I just don't think shower time is the appropriate place to notice my private 'tattoos'. Sure it's on the small of my back...
Nevermind how cute it is. The REAL question is: Why in God's name are you looking at my BEhind in the first place?
Had I not been so shocked an dismayed I would have summoned the words from Him to rebuke her outright.
But...gays in separate quarters--it's the only thing that makes sense at this point.
Afterall, there can be many parts to one whole.
You have your area; I have mine.
We are separated but at the same time joined.
We are separated because it is necessary; yet we are....as one people. United as a force against terror.
Separated...yet at the same time...equal.
' Separate-but-Equal'.
I believe it is fitting as the Gays are the 'new an improved' Black People.
I have sought my Commander for implementation of this Brave New Idea. I am reluctant to admit that my efforts have mostly been in vain.
In any case, if I was going to be leered at by lesbians I'd have preferred they invited the 30 men in the flight next door over .
That could be...interesting...
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02-16-2007, 03:20 AM
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Hardaway has no backbone. I positively hate when people backtrack. If you have the balls to make the comments, you should have the balls to stand by your comments. Nobody should be able to back you into a corner and make you apologize.
How utterly spineless these 'people in the spotlight' are.
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You have a very valid point here. Polititions especially are guilty of this. In this case, he was motivated by money(probably hate mail and death threats) and his public star falling.
My brother is a TI at Lackland.
"If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservant's do."
(Leviticus 21:6-7)
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02-16-2007, 03:30 AM
Well, I have always been in favor of the queers "coming out" and just admitting their perverted ways. It makes it that much easier to track them down.
In order to minister to them of course. Bring them to the love of Christ, etc.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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02-16-2007, 03:44 AM
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Hardaway has no backbone. I positively hate when people backtrack. If you have the balls to make the comments, you should have the balls to stand by your comments. Nobody should be able to back you into a corner and make you apologize.
How utterly spineless these 'people in the spotlight' are.
To tell the truth I don't blame Hardaway and the other players actually. I'd be understanding but still annoyed that the gay man hid all this.
I think people should be allowed to 'come out'. They should not be denied entry but they should be quarantined to another areas. Especially if we're talking same-sex quarters, here.
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You started out well, at least. Kudos on the first paragraph. Yes, it's good that he was honest, and his backpedaling was cowardly.
Then, you launch into a diatribe of bizarre contradiction.
"I think Homers should come out."
"I think it's OK to hate Homers, and I condemn them for hiding it, even though I know they hide it because people hate them."
"I think Homers should be out, but segregated. Keep them away from the normal people."
"I think that any woman who's not horrified to let her eyes fall upon my skin and notices a tattoo while I'm standing naked next to her on a daily basis must be a lesbian out to violate me."
The only thing more disgusting than a liberal is a hypocritical liberal. Congratulations on sinking to the ultimate depth of depravity. I imagine even the pagans and Wickers here -- notorious for their "accepting" and "tolerant" natures -- are equally disgusted with you.
You can never be a Christian if you cannot be honest with yourself and with God. Your contradictory statements indicate that you are intellectually dishonest and a hypocrite. You make me sick.
Your terror that a woman might notice your tattoo while you stood naked in front of her, every day, for weeks on end, suggests that perhaps you're a closeted lesbian yourself, terrified that you might have feelings you don't want. Perhaps you should look into Betty Bowers' BASH program?
Apparently you also have delusions of grandeur, assuming that any of these lesbian types would automatically lust after you. Are you some sort of self-styled goddess, perhaps? Tell me, when you're alone with a man or men, are you afraid you'll be gang-raped?
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02-16-2007, 06:50 AM
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What are you up to, trying to do a man's job?!!? That's time that could be spent with a Godly husband bearing little Soldier's for Christ!
Your womb doesn't belong to you, it belongs to Jesus and you'd better be using it to make Him happy!
Titus 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
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So this David Stern guy just said that the NBA supports and likes gays..... I'd suspected beofre, but this proves it.
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Anyone named David Stern - especially anyone rich - is clearly a Jew. There is no level of hypocrisy they won't stoop to if they think there might be a shiny nickel in it for them.
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Apparently you also have delusions of grandeur, assuming that any of these lesbian types would automatically lust after you. Are you some sort of self-styled goddess, perhaps? Tell me, when you're alone with a man or men, are you afraid you'll be gang-raped?
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She has previously admitted that she associates with negroes - in those circumstances, only a fool wouldn't fear being gang-raped.
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