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Default Care to explain the Dodo bird Darwinist??? - 06-29-2007, 04:37 PM

So according to you evolutionists it takes millions of years for a species to go extinct.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070629/...ritius_dodo_dc

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Hume said the dodo was almost certainly finished off by animals introduced by Europeans about 400 years ago. Theories that it was hunted to extinction by the Dutch were "total nonsense," he said, adding that the remains were highly fragile.

Extinct in less than hundred years. Sounds like you theory has a really big problem.

Maybe you should open you Bible and get some facts.



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Default Re: Care to explain the Dodo bird Darwinist??? - 06-29-2007, 06:26 PM

extinction=/=evolution. Evolution happens over such extended periods of time and has nothing to do with extinction, a process that spans far shorter distances.

Maybe you should open your Origin of Species and get some facts.



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Default Re: Care to explain the Dodo bird Darwinist??? - 06-29-2007, 08:44 PM

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extinction=/=evolution. Evolution happens over such extended periods of time and has nothing to do with extinction, a process that spans far shorter distances.

Maybe you should open your Origin of Species and get some facts.
Take your foul wind somewhere else heathen. It is only mass extinction that occurs in a brief period of time and it is usually because of some external event. Go check your facts, even the neo-Darwinists are not sure how all this happens.


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Default Re: Care to explain the Dodo bird Darwinist??? - 06-29-2007, 09:21 PM

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Take your foul wind somewhere else heathen. It is only mass extinction that occurs in a brief period of time and it is usually because of some external event. Go check your facts, even the neo-Darwinists are not sure how all this happens.
Ah, but we are not talking about the eruption of a supervolcano nor the extinction of a staggering number of species--this is a predator/prey relationship we are talking about. First, it was entirely fearless of people1, second, it was not only flightless, but also possessed few, if any defences aside from pecking with its beak.

Combine these two factors with the introduction of a predator by the Europeans and you have yourself a newly extinct species on your hands in a very short amount of time.

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As with many animals evolving in isolation from significant predators, the dodo was entirely fearless of people, and this, in combination with its flightlessness, made it easy prey.
Cited from: Scientists pinpoint dodo's demise. BBC News (2003-11-20).



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Default Re: Care to explain the Dodo bird Darwinist??? - 06-29-2007, 09:56 PM

Fearless of people? How typical of evolutionists, making courage out to be a bad thing. In the real world, son, cowardice is nothing to be proud of and certainly doesn't make one "fitter"—why, just look at the French!


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Default Re: Care to explain the Dodo bird Darwinist??? - 06-29-2007, 10:08 PM

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Fearless of people? How typical of evolutionists, making courage out to be a bad thing. In the real world, son, cowardice is nothing to be proud of and certainly doesn't make one "fitter"—why, just look at the French!
If you place a newborn next to a python, it (the newborn) will go about its business without fear of said python. Why? Because fear of specific things is not an inherent quality, it is learned through perception of society. To this extent it can not be said that cowardice is being preached, merely self-preservation.



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Default Re: Care to explain the Dodo bird Darwinist??? - 06-30-2007, 03:52 AM

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Ah, but we are not talking about the eruption of a supervolcano nor the extinction of a staggering number of species--this is a predator/prey relationship we are talking about. First, it was entirely fearless of people1, second, it was not only flightless, but also possessed few, if any defences aside from pecking with its beak.

Combine these two factors with the introduction of a predator by the Europeans and you have yourself a newly extinct species on your hands in a very short amount of time.

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Cited from: Scientists pinpoint dodo's demise. BBC News (2003-11-20).
Your sources are so typical of LIEberal lies; they are always trying to blame human activity for some problem or alleged impending catastrophe. The so-called "predators" that the Europeans brought were domesticated animals that are typically not predatory (and I doubt that they brought any "pet" pythons along either). The dodo was also a large bird (typically weighting around 50 pounds) that reportedly tasted bad and had tough meat. No one was interested in eating them.

By your reasoning the chicken and turkey should also be extinct as they can not fly and only have a beak to defend themselves. There is also nothing much dumber than a chicken or a turkey (with the possible exception of some of the unsaved trash that post on this Godly forum). Your assertion that the dodo was "fearless" of people is pure speculation, there were no reports of it and there are no dodo's around to test that hypothesis.

What you did not do is thoroughly read and comprehend your own Wikipedia references. Had you done so you would have come across possibly the real cause of the dodo's extinction:

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The 2005 expedition's finds are apparently of animals killed by a flash flood; such mass mortalities would have further jeopardized an already extinction-prone species.


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Default Re: Care to explain the Dodo bird Darwinist??? - 06-30-2007, 01:21 PM

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Your sources are so typical of LIEberal lies; they are always trying to blame human activity for some problem or alleged impending catastrophe. The so-called "predators" that the Europeans brought were domesticated animals that are typically not predatory (and I doubt that they brought any "pet" pythons along either). The dodo was also a large bird (typically weighting around 50 pounds) that reportedly tasted bad and had tough meat. No one was interested in eating them.
The python was just an example to illustrate that such fear is not instinctive, it must be learned from society.

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By your reasoning the chicken and turkey should also be extinct as they can not fly and only have a beak to defend themselves. There is also nothing much dumber than a chicken or a turkey (with the possible exception of some of the unsaved trash that post on this Godly forum). Your assertion that the dodo was "fearless" of people is pure speculation, there were no reports of it and there are no dodo's around to test that hypothesis.
On your first point, you are quite mistaken for humans domesticated both (though not to such an extent with the turkey) for their good-tasting meat. As such, many were largely protected from predators and others learned to avoid humans rather quickly as their habitats were developed.

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What you did not do is thoroughly read and comprehend your own Wikipedia references. Had you done so you would have come across possibly the real cause of the dodo's extinction:
You still defeat your own point in this.
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It is only mass extinction that occurs in a brief period of time
For again we are not talking about a mass extinction, an extinction that generally affects taxonomic groups rather than an individual species. We are talking about the localized extinction of a single avian species and you have only proved that such a flood would only have aided in the extermination of an "already extinction-prone species." This statement suggests that the Dodo was already on its way towards extinction prior to the supposed flood.



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Default Re: Care to explain the Dodo bird Darwinist??? - 07-01-2007, 07:38 AM

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So according to you evolutionists it takes millions of years for a species to go extinct.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070629/...ritius_dodo_dc




Extinct in less than hundred years. Sounds like you theory has a really big problem.

Maybe you should open you Bible and get some facts.
Simple. The article you posted actually supports evolution, by the way.
Anyway, the dodo evolved into a fat easy target. Lots of other things wanted to eat it. End of dodo, end of story.



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