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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-13-2016, 06:45 PM

Sorry for not using paragraphs! I should have probably done that and I apologize for the inconvenience.
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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-13-2016, 06:50 PM

I would gladly discuss my faith! I have been a part of my church since i was born. I am an active member of my youth group and have even been on multiple mission trips! It was around the seventh grade that I was truly secure in my faith because I was going through very hard times then. I believe that I have grown to be a better person surrounded by my family at my church and I hope to be able to spread that support to those who need it.
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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-13-2016, 07:13 PM

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No, you were not. Next time, use less words. I have a headache only for trying to read you.


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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-13-2016, 07:22 PM

I'll keep that in mind for the future! Thank you for the input. To put it VERY shortly, most of the information about the characters listed in the original post is assumed and has not basis of proof. Also just because other religions are in a game, it doesn't mean that that game is specifically trying to turn people away from their Christian faith.
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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-13-2016, 07:36 PM

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I'll keep that in mind for the future! Thank you for the input. To put it VERY shortly, most of the information about the characters listed in the original post is assumed and has not basis of proof. Also just because other religions are in a game, it doesn't mean that that game is specifically trying to turn people away from their Christian faith.
Well, as we all should be praying without ceasing, playing ANY game is sinful (maybe with the exception of the manly sport of Football, and with that I mean AMERICAN football)

1 Thessalonians 5:1717 Pray without ceasing.


And you should refrain from ANY appearance of evil, it does not matter if they are trying to turn you away:

1 Thessalonians 5:22 - Abstain from all appearance of evil.



So, to be clear: stop playing this game, start reading your Bible ALL THE TIME.


Sorry I have to go to read mine, back later.


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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-13-2016, 08:42 PM

Well, you can't literally pray 24/7 because you'd die of starvation so... Also, what's wrong with soccer? Finally, I understand that reading the bible is important, but you have to take some time smelling the roses you know? Exploring the world and stuff. While it is always good to praise God, you can't just never go see all the cool things to do in the world like play video games, hiking, eating cool foods and such. God gave us our lives to speak praise, but he also wants us to experience life to the fullest. I feel as if you are taking the Bible a little bit too literally. You of course have full right to your opinion and there's no way that taking the bible more literally is "wrong," but I just happen to see a lot of scripture in the bible to be taken metaphorically. I also understand if you don't think video games are a good use of time, everyone has their own opinion. I just wanted to clarify that Overwatch isn't some scheme to pull people away from Christ.
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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-13-2016, 08:53 PM

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Well, you can't literally pray 24/7 because you'd die of starvation so...
SOLUTION: pray when you are eating.


Joshua 1:8 - This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.


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A lot, a lot. Find about it here: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=44593




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I feel as if you are taking the Bible a little bit too literally. You of course have full right to your opinion and there's no way that taking the bible more literally is "wrong," but I just happen to see a lot of scripture in the bible to be taken metaphorically.


There is no other way to take the Bible. It is either literally, or Hell. You do not really want to go to Hell.


James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.


Otherwise, you think that your interpretation is better than the word written by God. Isn't it a little presumptuous?




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I also understand if you don't think video games are a good use of time, everyone has their own opinion. I just wanted to clarify that Overwatch isn't some scheme to pull people away from Christ.

I don't think, I don't have opinions, I OBEY.


Isaiah 1:19 - If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land


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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-13-2016, 09:12 PM

Most of those things about soccer were kind of ridiculous. First off, soccer takes little skill to play, but TONS of skill to master. And why is it bad that France is good at soccer? There's nothing wrong with France as a whole so I don't see the issue. Also I know plenty of people who play soccer, and they're all straight so that disproves that. Also, a sports supporter's does not define the sport. If some fans are violent, it doesn't mean that the sport itself is bad. Dude, ANY hobby is gonna make it so you have less time reading the bible. Having a hobby isn't a sin it just means you're doing something you like. Everyone has multiple faults, but are in the end saved through their repentance so me, you, and everyone else has at least one flaw that makes us unworthy. You can read the bible all you want, but unless you accept Christ and all of that stuff (Which you undoubtedly have, which I'm very happy to hear!) all of those actions don't mean anything. Now I am not a Babtist, so my denomination may do things a bit differently, but I believe in God and accept Jesus as my savior, and to us, that's good enough. Of course we read our bibles too because it's the right thing to do.
Though you still haven't really said anything on the Overwatch department. Do you think the game is evil just because it's a hobby? Or is there another reason?
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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-13-2016, 09:17 PM

I would also like to add that you like football right? Well, at the bottom of the article, it pretty much calls anyone who plays a sport (Through giving examples of a high multitude of them) a sinner for playing it. So where do you stand on that notion?
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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-13-2016, 10:01 PM

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I would also like to add that you like football right? Well, at the bottom of the article, it pretty much calls anyone who plays a sport (Through giving examples of a high multitude of them) a sinner for playing it. So where do you stand on that notion?
I said "maybe". Iti is probable that it is a sin as well. I am not American so I don't know the specifics of that sport.


About your other questions, there are "threads" for a reason. Please keep on topic.


And the original poster has explained in detail why it is a sin to play this game. I just addressed your point on "other religions" appearing, and how that is sinful.


For the record: I could not care less if you play this game or not. You are the one going to hell, so why would I care?


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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-13-2016, 10:09 PM

Well, this whole thread's premise is talking about whether or not Overwatch should be banned so I thought you had a point of view? Also, why am I going to hell exactly? I believe in Christ, I go to church and youth group, I pray, so I don't see the issue. Playing a video game doesn't send you to hell; not believing in God and Jesus does so I should be fine. And on the point where you say to take it literally or to go to hell, you realize that there's a part in the bible that basically says that if your arm commits a sinful action, to cut it off to show your separation from said sin. Now I see that as a metaphor for not dwelling on one's sins, because if I took that literally, I wouldn't have any limbs and neither would you, so I don't see why the people who wrote the different books of the bible couldn't have used literary devices to get a point across.
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Well, this whole thread's premise is talking about whether or not Overwatch should be banned so I thought you had a point of view? Also, why am I going to hell exactly? I believe in Christ, I go to church and youth group, I pray, so I don't see the issue. Playing a video game doesn't send you to hell; not believing in God and Jesus does so I should be fine. And on the point where you say to take it literally or to go to hell, you realize that there's a part in the bible that basically says that if your arm commits a sinful action, to cut it off to show your separation from said sin. Now I see that as a metaphor for not dwelling on one's sins, because if I took that literally, I wouldn't have any limbs and neither would you, so I don't see why the people who wrote the different books of the bible couldn't have used literary devices to get a point across.
Oh, my hands are safe, you see, here is the actual scripture:


Matthew 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not thatthy whole body should be cast into hell.


Since I became a True Christian, I have never sinned again. True Christians are perfect.


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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-13-2016, 10:40 PM

I am afraid it is impossible for anyone to be perfect. You screw up every day as do I. Not a single day has gone by where you have not sinned. That's why God reaches out to us, to save us from ourselves. That's the whole reason Jesus died on the cross. John 3: 16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life." We're only saved because Jesus took our place, not because we make ourselves perfect through reading scripture. Also, what's up with this whole "True Christian" thing? I'm just as much of a Christian as you and you're not better than other people just because of the religion you choose. Yes, those who aren't Christian go to hell, but that doesn't mean you can treat them as lesser people. God loves all people equally, regardless of what they look like or if they even believe in him. He loves us all, you included. I know I have sounded slightly abrasive in the past few texts, but I am having this debate with you to purely understand your point of view. I do not dislike you in any way, even though you've told me I'm going to hell multiple times. I just hope that maybe I have some impact on how you view the world, so you could lead a more relaxed and happy life, while still being secure in your faith.
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I am afraid it is impossible for anyone to be perfect. You screw up every day as do I. Not a single day has gone by where you have not sinned.
Please refer to the thread I quoted before. Imperfection is for sinners, and True Christians are commanded to be perfect


Matthew 5:4 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

So if you are not perfect, you are just disobeying the Bible. Again.


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There is an "AND" connector lost there. We need both things to get into Heaven.


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It depends on what do you mean by "better". I am biblically better than non true Christians, for sure.


Can I be called by filthy liberals a "sociopathic weirdo and dangerous to other people around me"? Yes, they have called me that. Only for reading the Bible loud in front of Abortion Clinics, and things like that.


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Yes, those who aren't Christian go to hell, but that doesn't mean you can treat them as lesser people. God loves all people equally, regardless of what they look like or if they even believe in him.
Yes, I can, I should, and I will, because Jesus is xenophobic and so should we.

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Happiness comes with True Cristianism. That leads to a relaxed, happy, and wealthy life. Come to the light, my friend, and be an achiever instead of a liberal dreamer.


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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-14-2016, 01:38 AM

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I was extremely distraught upon my return from my four-year missionary trip protesting apostate churches in the dark continent to find that my so-called son has not only taken up being a disgusting quaker (which is only a hop, skip, and hellbound jump from overtly promoting terrorism), but he has taken up this game and a newer game he calls "Overwatch." Let me tell you, I just about had a heart attack all over again when I saw it. Those of you with small children may wish to give them chores to do, that they might not be exposed to the wickedness I share with you for educational purposes only.

Just a handful of the sin I saw in Overwatch, put out by a company called "Blizzard," behind the infamous "Worlds of War-Craft" game:
  • Women do battle with men almost as their equals, in blatant violation of their station as homemakers who submit properly to their husbands the way GOD intended. Revelation 17:6 is very clear that this is a sign of the end of days: "And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of JESUS: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration."
  • In the game, some robots are considered the equals of mankind even after they have nearly wiped man from the Earth. I would not believe that it needed saying that GOD alone set men and men only apart from the animals, not robots. If GOD intended for robots to be treated as mankind's equals, HE would have done so from the beginning or would have at least mentioned them.
  • One of the so-called "heroes" is so far as I can tell some sort of (GOD forgive me for saying this) Buddhist and promotes not only meditation but blatant pansexuality, throwing his balls in the faces of every other character. I asked my son what in the world that wicked sinner was doing and he told me that this flagrant promotion of sodomy was his main "attack!" Now that, I believe, because it was indeed an attack on not only my sensibilities but also my son's soul! I later learned that this hero, "Zenyatta," (which is probably a nonsense word that is the start of a spell; I suspect saying it out loud is almost certainly sinful, and better safe than sorry) taught another character, Genji, a young oriental, about his wicked ways. If this is not proof that the homosexual agenda will not stop at the boundaries of the real world and are hell-bent (and hell-bound) on forcing even real characters into sin, I don't know what is.
  • A talking gorilla named Winston (an obvious anagram of "sin town") is not only one of the heroes but a scientist who 'reformed' this group of anti-JESUS crusaders called 'Overwatch' after I can only assume GOD-fearing Christians in the game's "lore" put a stop to them. This is about as blatant an advertisement for bestiality and evolution all in one as I have seen, at least since I returned to the Western world where GOD pays attention, and let me tell you, HE is listening, attentive, and steaming mad! Decades of creation science proving evolution dead wrong and here Blizzard is promoting the ludicrous and blasphemous notion that we ought to start letting apes talk as if they have souls. Abominable.
  • The game's heroes mock CHRIST and HIS angels by portraying "Mercy," a so-called 'healer' in the game, as being angelic, even capable of resurrecting the dead, which is capable through CHRIST alone! Worse, this medic is a female doctor in what I believe to be her mid-30s or perhaps even mid-40s, and she is not even married! To no surprise but great disappointment, my son told me about a pairing called 'PharMercy' where she is 'shipped' with another female character, which means that fans promote sodomy using them. Typical.

    There is one sliver of hope, friends. A hero called "Reaper" seemed to me to be an entirely wholesome kind of man, who through GOD'S love and redemption has taken it upon himself to rid the world of the other 'heroes,' although I feel the title perhaps applies only to him, and of course to JESUS. Spurned by the sodomites, he seems to have turned to THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. He places these buggery-promoting, bestiality-loving, lucre-grubbing whores of Babylon where they belong, in hell with the rest of their kind. One of his voice lines even promotes the HOLY SPIRIT by saying "you look like you've seen a ghost," which I took to mean that they look like they have begun to experience the HOLY GHOST'S blessed presence. This part made me smile, but my son told me that he was among the most disliked characters in the game (this world... ).

    My son tells me that Reaper "mains" (people who play exclusively as him) are known as "edgelords," and I thought that was a fitting name, kings who give themselves over to the edge of GOD'S sword of righteous judgment. JESUS CHRIST was HIMself an 'edgelord,' as Matthew 10:34 tells us: "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

    Ultimately, I do not believe the presence of one character doing the LORD'S work can make up entirely for a game which is otherwise jam-packed with the promotion of sodomy, idol worship, one-world-government promotion, vaccination (through a thoroughly rotten old Muslim hag named 'Ana'), bestiality and a form of wicked onanism (some people are shown in relationships with anti-Christian robots! ).

    I am asking all parents, if you see your children playing Overwatch, do what I did: Drop a few magnets into their computer case to magnetize the sinful data away and leave it washed clean, then throw the magnets straight in the garbage and take it outside, that you might not keep sin in your household. My son tells me that his computer is "ruined" and I say good, if he feels I 'ruined' it by removing sin and putting in parental controls the old fashioned way, then clearly he has a lot of growing up left to do, and I as his father need now more than ever to be there to make sure my son never plays games like this again.
Obviously, this is another pathetic attempt at making Satan look "cool" but we're proper, good Baptists! This wont stop us. Here's some lovely bible verses that prove this is satanic nonsense!


"No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light." - 2 Corinthians 11:14

This applies to the Satanic character 'Mercy' 100 percent! Ban this garbage!


Amen and God Bless!
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I am afraid it is impossible for anyone to be perfect. You screw up every day as do I.
Please site one "screw up" Brother Gonzalez made today. Please be specific. If you provide proof, I'll donate $100 to the fluffy-bunny watered-down Church Feel-Good-Extravaganza charity of your choice.

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Not a single day has gone by where you have not sinned.
How does it feel to profess out of one side of your mouth that Jesus is the Truth, and out of the other that His Holy Manifesto, the King James Bible, is full of lies (1st John 3:6-9)? Brother Gonzalez is a True Christian™ man, despite his mud blood, and therefore Satan's wily ways are of no interest to him (1st John 5:18).

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That's why God reaches out to us, to save us from ourselves.
And He's what, incapable of doing it effectively? Only "saves" us metaphorically?

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That's the whole reason Jesus died on the cross. John 3: 16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life." We're only saved because Jesus took our place, not because we make ourselves perfect through reading scripture.
How many times did Jesus die to redeem sin, dear? How many times is necessary before His Holy Blood actually does what the Bible says it does (Hebrews 7:27)? Or did He redeem only sin up until Good Friday, 33 AD?

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It's not enough to believe in Jesus, dear (James 2:19).

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Yes, those who aren't Christian go to hell, but that doesn't mean you can treat them as lesser people. God loves all people equally, regardless of what they look like or if they even believe in him.
Why would anyone throw the souls of people He loves into the Fires of Hell for all eternity? Good God! I wouldn't even throw my rebellious child into a campfire for a minute, no matter how much she deserves it!

What kind of monster do you think the Lord thy God is?



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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-14-2016, 06:09 AM

You see ma'am, I am a Presbyterian, so that may explain the differences in what we have been taught, because we also use a different version of the bible. (I don't quite remember the initials for it, I think that its is EMV or something similar.) This would explain the reason our beliefs vary because our denominations seem very different from one another. Also I would like to point out (This may not be a belief in your denomination so I apologize if it is different in the Baptist Denomination) that God gives us free will to choose him or to not choose him. If one chooses to believe in God, He will happily accept said person into heaven. If one chooses to turn away, well, they go to hell. It saddens God greatly when this happens, but he wants to respect the choice we made through having faith. So God is no monster, he's just letting us choose our path. Oh! And you asked for a specific example of something that other guy (Sorry I forgot his username!) did wrong today. While I am not physically part of his life, he could have accidentally insulted someone or had a bad thought or something really small. Im not saying he's a BAD person because of it, I'm just saying everyone makes mistakes, and one mistake is all it takes. (Haha that rhymed!) Fortunately, he believes in God so it's okay if he messes up sometimes because that's just human nature!
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You see ma'am, I am a Presbyterian, so that may explain the differences in what we have been taught, because we also use a different version of the bible. (I don't quite remember the initials for it, I think that its is EMV or something similar.) This would explain the reason our beliefs vary because our denominations seem very different from one another. Also I would like to point out (This may not be a belief in your denomination so I apologize if it is different in the Baptist Denomination) that God gives us free will to choose him or to not choose him. If one chooses to believe in God, He will happily accept said person into heaven. If one chooses to turn away, well, they go to hell.
Dear Sinner,

This would be wonderful! Let us see what the most authoritative source of God's Will says about this issue. Will everyone go to Heaven simply by choosing to believe in God.

James 2:19
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: ...


Seems OK! You must be right! You believe and everything is swell! Or is it? The suspense rises! The verse above was incomplete. It goes on!

James 2:19
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.


The devils believe in God so based on your assessment they go into Heaven. Please explain!

On the other hand, you might want to reflect upon this and assess if your attitude towards God is based on hearsay of the false Church you attend to or if it is based on the actual data (the Bible) that we have regarding these issues.


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Default Re: Overwatch: Overdue For A Ban! - 12-14-2016, 07:09 AM

You are completely right! I wasn't very clear when I said that. What I meant to say was "To believe in God, believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins, and to accept God as our lord and savior." Thank you for letting me know to clarify!
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