[WilliamJenningsBryan]

While the rest of the MSM is touting the latest EU "Brexit" votes after the weekend elections, we take time here to notice the results from the "world's largest democracy" - the dot heads in India.

Carefully avoiding a contest for the world's worst false religion, one has to assume that sacred bovine worshiping has to rank high amongst them. There was the Golden Calf (Exodus 32:21-24) incident in the Bible (KJV1611), but to permit real live cows to wander aimlessly eating and deficating throughout a country leads to squalor and disease (not to mention turning it into a shithole).

The MSM is busy blaming all this "Nationalism" on our Godly president Donald Trump ("Trumpism"), but to the astute observer much of this started way before Trump was even born. In the case of the Europaeons it has to do with some socialist pencil-neck EU bureaucrats, and the Hindaloos (if they really were "great") were too stupid to build a wall to keep the mooselimbs from invading way back in the 7th Century.

Throughout history there have arisen various groups of people so obnoxious that no one wanted them as neighbors - much less wanting them in their country. The Bible (KJV1611) documents the "Good Samaritan" - mainly because it was an exception to the rest of the troublesome Samaritans. In our own time there are the beligerant and drunken Irish, the insufferable bead slinging papists, and the more notable mooselimbs and their violent "religion of peace" - that almost everyone is becoming fed up with.

In some sense, one has to side with the Hindaloos in this squabble. The mooselimbs had their chance to move to the newly created Pakistan in 1947 but chose to remain in India - so suck it up or hitch up the camels and move to Pakistan if you want to eat cows.

Both India and Pakistan are nuclear powers, so one has to issue a warning here - try to enforce your silly religions on Godly Americans that want to enjoy grilled steaks and BBQ ribs while celebrating Memorial Day with nuclear weapons and there will be some serious trouble.

Lastly there are the usual whining "secularists" that are advancing their usual answer to these problems. How has that been working out for you lately?

India’s Prime Minister Modi pursues politics of Hindu nationalism – what does that mean?
May 27, 2019 1.13pm EDT

Almost immediately after winning a second term in office on May 23, India’s Prime Minister Modi gave a speech making light of parties and individuals who had espoused secularism over the past five years.

During the five years while the Indian government has been led by Modi and the right-wing Bharatiya Janata Party – or BJP – several Muslims were lynched on allegations of eating beef or even just transporting cattle for slaughter. As the number of attacks on Muslims grew, Modi mostly remained silent.

The consumption of beef in India has long been a divisive issue because many Hindus believe that the cow is a sacred animal. Cow slaughter and consumption of beef have long been banned in 24 out of 29 states across India.

Despite this concession to orthodox Hindu sentiments, India has a constitutional commitment to secularism. Unlike in the West, where secularism calls for a strict separation of church and state, Indian secularism is based on the premise of respect toward all faiths.

However, Modi and the political party he represents are adherents of Hindutva. What exactly is Hindutva and how is it different from the beliefs and practices of Hinduism?

Colonial roots

Hindutva is an ideology that states that India is the homeland of the Hindus. According to believers, those who profess other faiths can live in the country only at the sufferance of Hindus.

As a scholar of contemporary Indian politics, I find this proposition to be profoundly disturbing and deeply antithetical to the the central tenets of Hinduism.

The roots of this ideology can, in considerable part, be traced to the growth of Hindu anxieties in colonial India. In 1906, a Muslim political party – the All-India Muslim League – was created. Later, a charismatic politician, Mohammed Ali Jinnah, became its standard-bearer and subsequently the first governor-general of the state of Pakistan following the British partition of India in 1947. Partition led to the division of the former British India into the two independent states of India and Pakistan.

The creation of the All-India Muslim League caused some serious misgivings on the part of some segments of the Hindu population, leading to their political mobilization along religious lines, pitting Hindus against Muslims. In 1921, an organization emerged in northern India called the Hindu Mahasabha.

It brought together people who opposed the secular outlook of the major political party at the time, the Indian National Congress, led by Mahatma Gandhi and others. The Mahasabha’s ideology espoused the education and uplift of Hindus and also the conversion of Muslims to Hinduism.

The ideology has its roots in the ideas of an important but controversial Indian nationalist, Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, who was not only ardently opposed to British rule in India, but advocated violence to end colonial domination and argued that India was the sole preserve of Hindus.

His ideas were fundamentally at odds with the principals of the Indian nationalist movement, Mahatma Gandhi and his disciple Jawaharlal Nehru, who would become the first prime minister of a free India. Gandhi, though deeply religious, had advocated Hindu-Muslim amity. Nehru, a staunch secularist, had supported religious pluralism. He died at the hands of a fanatic, Nathuram Godse, a member of the Hindu Mahasabha, in 1948.

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https://theconversation.com/indias-p...at-mean-117794

[Johny Joe Hold]

Really, is there a difference between the cow worshipers and that what-do-you-call religion that worships pasta? It is just like those cow people to claim their brand of Hinduism is the least fake among all the fake Hindu branches.

[MitzaLizalor]

One thing I noticed was how the moon worshippers expect everyone to pay heed to their "feelings" and whine incessantly when "offended" but trample over the sensitivities of cow worshippers which if they were capable of feelings they would not do. It's a small enough thing to avoid beef after all. There's always lamb, goat, mutton, poultry. What about rabbit? Are there rabbits in India? There are some great rabbit recipes and jugged hare is one of the best.

Making it easier to understand – say when I'm in a place where
pork is taboo. Do I run around insisting on glazed bacon joints?
No.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

As a scholar of contemporary Indian politics ...
... Gandhi, though deeply religious, had advocated Hindu-Muslim amity. Nehru, a staunch secularist, had supported religious pluralism. Gandhi, though deeply religious, had advocated Hindu-Muslim amity. He died at the hands of a fanatic, Nathuram Godse, a member of the Hindu Mahasabha, in 1948.

No he didn't. The author of that garbled nonsense claims to be Distinguished Professor of Political [sic] and the Tagore Chair in Indian Cultures and Civilizations, Indiana University. He should be fired for butchering the American language with his faulty pronoun reference (and for not knowing the name of the subject he teaches).

Anyway, if the pork-dodgers want to eat cow and vice-versa, why don't they just get on a train and go to a cow/pig-eating area?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

[QUOTE=WilliamJenningsBryan;1252399]

What exactly is Hindutva and how is it different from the beliefs and practices of Hinduism?


Hindutva is an ideology that states that India is the homeland of the Hindus. According to believers, those who profess other faiths can live in the country only at the sufferance of Hindus.

I have often thought that a Christian should treat a stranger in the way that the stranger expects to be treated - and to that extent I think the removal of all Indians (the dark ones, ones like Tonto are a horse of a different color) from the US would be respectful to their own beliefs.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by Joanna Lytton-Vasey

It is worthwhile noting that this was taken from a a Democrat Advertisement promoting their immigration policy.

[MitzaLizalor]

756 x 590. . . . . . 997 x 778 . . .

I checked my Pears’ Cyclopædia and noticed how India has been shrinking. By clicking on a thumbnail you can see the map. Farther India includes Burma, and Pakistan (as it was to become) seems to be called Baluchistan & Bengal. The Punjab remains Punjabi today and even though there's an arbitrary border running through it the Sikhs just get on with being Sikhs, providing services to the Indian government with no trouble unless someone transgresses their temple precinct. Sikhs and Buddhists are offshoots from Hinduism genealogically and may or may not be seen as legitimate Indians by strict "Hindutva" nationalists, as I understand it, according to context.

Nevertheless no-one wants to see happen in India what happened in the East Indies (not on map) repeated in India proper. Hindoos lived and prospered throughout Malaya and Indonesia but visit those places today and very little remains. Islam has swamped Malaysia, which was formed without Singapore, and all that's left for the hindoos in Indonesia is half-a-dozen islands.

• Balinese Islands
  • Penida
  • Batu Mejinong
  • Ceningan
  • Lembongan
  • Bali
  • Menjangan

They see an identical process taking place in their northern territories and to reverse that trend—as they've had to do before—direct action is required. Accommodation has proved possible with Sikhs and Buddhists and the pacifist Jain creatures but when facing wretches who consider their idol to have granted them additional territory as the latest instalment of a total conquest, Indians will react according to how they see the situation. What I think is irrelevant.

Notwithstanding the above, God will be smiting with earthquakes and volcanos and once only idolators remain with worldwide incineration sufficient to melt the elements. Not some elements. All elements.

Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46565/ozymandias