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Should Hellbound Sodomites be allowed in schools? -
08-20-2008, 09:03 PM
According to former principal David Davis of Ponce de Leon High School in Florida, NO! The rest of the town seems to agree.
Read this tragic tale of the ACLU taking the Homersexual Agenda to a Godly small town:
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August 20, 2008
Fla. town backs ex-principal in gay student case
The Associated Press
PONCE DE LEON, Fla. — When a high school senior told her principal that students were taunting her for being a lesbian, he told her homosexuality is wrong, outed her to her parents and ordered her to stay away from children.
He suspended some of her friends who expressed their outrage by wearing gay pride T-shirts and buttons at Ponce de Leon High School, according to court records. And he asked dozens of students whether they were gay or associated with gay students.
The American Civil Liberties Union successfully sued the district on behalf of a girl who protested against Principal David Davis, and a federal judge reprimanded Davis for conducting a “witch hunt” against gays. Davis was demoted, and school employees must now go through sensitivity training.
And despite all that, many in this conservative Panhandle community still wonder what, exactly, Davis did wrong.
“We are a small, rural district in the Bible Belt with strong Christian beliefs and feel like homosexuality is wrong,” said Steve Griffin, Holmes County’s school superintendent, who keeps a Bible on his desk and framed Scriptures on his office walls.
Holmes County, on the Georgia line, has about 20,000 residents. There is some agriculture, but most people are employed either by prisons or schools; some commute to the Gulf Coast to work in tourism. Ponce de Leon, with fewer than 500 residents, has a cafe, a post office and an antique store.
Many in the community support Davis and feel outsiders are forcing their beliefs on them. Griffin, who kicked Davis out of the principal’s office but allowed him to continue teaching at the school, said high schoolers here aren’t exposed to the same things as kids in Atlanta or Chicago.
“I don’t think we are that different from a lot of districts, at least in the Panhandle, that have beliefs that maybe are different from societal changes,” Griffin said.
Gay rights activists said that’s no excuse for what Davis did.
The problems began last fall when Davis, who did not return phone messages from The Associated Press, admonished the senior, who is identified only as “Jane Doe” in court records and whose friends say she doesn’t want to talk about the experience.
The friends donned gay pride T-shirts and rainbow-colored clothing when they found out how Davis had treated her, and he questioned many of them about their sexuality and association with gay students. Some were suspended.
“Davis embarked on what can only be characterized as a ’witch hunt’ to identify students who were homosexual and their supporters, further adding fuel to the fire,” U.S. District Judge Richard Smoak recounted in his ruling. “He went so far as to lift the shirts of female students to insure the letters ’GP’ or the words ’Gay Pride’ were not written on their bodies.”
Heather Gillman, an 11th-grader who took part in the protests, complained to her mother, Ardena, a 40-year-old corrections officer and mother of three. Ardena Gillman called the ACLU, even though she knew people would be angry.
“I just felt like I had to stand up for the kids. Heather wanted to do this, and I had to back her,” she said.
Ardena hoped to protect the students’ freedom of speech — whether it was the freedom to wear Confederate flag T-shirts to show Southern pride or the freedom to wear rainbow T-shirts to support gay rights.
Courts have repeatedly ruled that similar student protests are constitutional as long as they are not disruptive.
“I think a shirt that says ’I support gays’ is very different from a shirt that says ’Gays are going to hell,”’ said Benjamin Stevenson, an ACLU attorney. “One can be very disruptive for a child’s self-esteem; the other supports other people and their ideas.”
Ardena Gillman also knew some of the students would need to learn to be tolerant.
“What happens when these kids get out in the real world after they leave Ponce de Leon and they have a black, homosexual supervisor at their job?” she said.
The ACLU sued in January, and Smoak ruled this summer that Davis violated Heather Gillman’s rights.
“I emphasize that Davis’s personal and religious views about homosexuality are not issues in this case. Indeed, Davis’s opinions and views are consistent with the beliefs of many in Holmes County, in Florida, and in the country,” Smoak wrote in an opinion released last month. “Where Davis went wrong was when he endeavored to silence the opinions of his dissenters.”
As Ardena Gillman suspected, the lawsuit created hard feelings in town.
A Wal-Mart worker yelled at her, accusing her of trying to “bankrupt” the school district, which was ordered to pay $325,000 in ACLU attorney fees. One of her friends has refused to talk to her because the lawsuit conflicted with the woman’s religious beliefs.
Others flatly hail Davis as a hero.
“David Davis is a fine man and good principal, and we are a gentle, peaceful, Christian, family-oriented community,” said Bill Griffin, 73 and a lifelong Ponce de Leon resident who is no relation to the district superintendent. “We aren’t out to tar and feather anyone.”
The lawsuit could reflect a division between the high school students who have grown up in an era of gay tolerance and the community’s elders, said Gary Scott, a school board member.
“But I think that’s less of an issue here than in Miami or Minnesota,” he said.
The judge’s scathing rebuke left Scott questioning how his community’s beliefs could be so different from the judge’s opinion.
“I guess I didn’t realize liberals were that bad,” Scott said.
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Re: Should Hellbound Sodomites be allowed in schools? -
08-20-2008, 09:36 PM
Well, that's what they get for living in a place called 'Ponce" anything!
Damned libral judges are everywhere. You know it's because of the Clintons!
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5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
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Re: Should Hellbound Sodomites be allowed in schools? -
08-20-2008, 09:47 PM
Can I change my vote??? . . . the Title says "Should Hellbound Sodomites be allowed in schools" and I assumed we were talking about public school teachers and members of the NEA. So I voted NO. But if we are talking about the students, I really wanted to say YES, because I know that after getting stoned a few times and especially if they attend one of our "Scared Straight" student meetings, they will become certified Un-Gay members of LBC! Shout Glory!
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Re: Should Hellbound Sodomites be allowed in schools? -
08-20-2008, 11:09 PM
What kind of libral scum is this pervert?
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“Davis embarked on what can only be characterized as a ’witch hunt’ to identify students who were homosexual and their supporters, further adding fuel to the fire,” U.S. District Judge Richard Smoak recounted in his ruling. “He went so far as to lift the shirts of female students to insure the letters ’GP’ or the words ’Gay Pride’ were not written on their bodies.”
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A True Christian principal would have had them naked and shaved clean from head to toe to make sure the devil's mark wasn't upon them. Something was causing those girls to go Lezbean liking! It was Satan, or the libral media, or wiccidians!
Matthew:
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
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Re: Should Hellbound Sodomites be allowed in schools? -
08-26-2008, 06:51 AM
I am glad that they sued them. They had every right too because what that principle did was discriminate. Discrimination will not be tolerated anymore!
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Re: Should Hellbound Sodomites be allowed in schools? -
08-26-2008, 08:21 AM
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I am glad that they sued them. They had every right too because what that principle did was discriminate. Discrimination will not be tolerated anymore!
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You can't even read and comprehend, much less say anything intelligent. Here is what the judge said in his opinion about the case:
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“I emphasize that Davis’s personal and religious views about homosexuality are not issues in this case. Indeed, Davis’s opinions and views are consistent with the beliefs of many in Holmes County, in Florida, and in the country,” Smoak wrote in an opinion released last month. “Where Davis went wrong was when he endeavored to silence the opinions of his dissenters.”
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Where does it say anything about "discrimination"?
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Re: Should Hellbound Sodomites be allowed in schools? -
08-26-2008, 09:30 AM
Its obvious what he did, the man should have shut the piffle up and not questioned or interviened with anothers values and beliefs.
You can't control being a homosexual. Your just born that way, just the way God intended!
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Re: Should Hellbound Sodomites be allowed in schools? -
08-26-2008, 09:55 AM
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“I think a shirt that says ’I support gays’ is very different from a shirt that says ’Gays are going to hell,”’ said Benjamin Stevenson, an ACLU attorney. “One can be very disruptive for a child’s self-esteem; the other supports other people and their ideas.”
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Well I guess the devil is ice-skating in Hell. The ACLU is right about something!
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Re: Should Hellbound Sodomites be allowed in schools? -
08-26-2008, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Fabricio
Its obvious what he did, the man should have shut the piffle up and not questioned or interviened with anothers values and beliefs.
You can't control being a homosexual. Your just born that way, just the way God intended!
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Can you show us where it says that in the Holy Bible, missy?
The queers want you to feel sorry for them and treat them like they're a victim. The truth is, they spit in God's loving face each and every time they play "hide the pickle" with each other. God says they are an abomination.
He also says that those who defend them are going to hell too.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Should Hellbound Sodomites be allowed in schools? -
08-26-2008, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Fabricio
Its obvious what he did, the man should have shut the piffle up and not questioned or interviened with anothers values and beliefs.
You can't control being a homosexual. Your just born that way, just the way God intended!
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One can be born a window-licker; one can not be born gay--that is a choice that one makes when he or she turns from God and the path to Salvation©.
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Originally Posted by Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
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All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils; My lips shall not speak wickedness, nor my tongue utter deceit. God forbid that I should justify you: till I die I will not remove mine integrity from me.
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Re: Should Hellbound Sodomites be allowed in schools? -
08-26-2008, 01:38 PM
Should Hellbound Sodomites be allowed in schools?
or to ask it another way...
should hungry foxes be allowed in your henhouse ?
now , honestly, how much ssense does that really make ?
Not a lot...
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