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Default Naomi's Scholars for Christ Crusade - 08-29-2014, 05:31 AM

For every dollar that is tithed during the next four Sundays, Naomi's Moist Pie will match that amount to buy school supplies for the children of True Christians™. We should dig deeper than usual (remember, this will benefit Pastor Ezekiel as well as our kiddies) so that no True Christian™ offspring will go to school in a state of sin. Included in the Scholars for Christ bag will be a supply of pure white paper, prayed over by the elders of the church; a ten pack of pencils on which the Lord's Prayer has been embossed in gold; a supply of Chick tracts and booklets for your little soulwinner; a King James 1611 Bible; an anointed prayer cloth to ward off the devil and his minions; a detector that will sound an alarm if a homer comes near your child (it also dials 911 and the Landover Security Office); a 5x7" glossy portrait of Pastor Zeke studying his KJV; paste; construction paper (for appropriate ages); and a coupon for one FREE pie from Naomi's Moist Pie (conditions apply). Let's make this a successful campaign. Your Salvation® depends upon it.

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Default Re: Naomi's Scholars for Christ Crusade - 08-29-2014, 06:25 AM

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For every dollar that is tithed during the next four Sundays, Naomi's Moist Pie will match that amount to buy school supplies for the children of True Christians™. We should dig deeper than usual (remember, this will benefit Pastor Ezekiel as well as our kiddies) so that no True Christian™ offspring will go to school in a state of sin. Included in the Scholars for Christ bag will be a supply of pure white paper, prayed over by the elders of the church; a ten pack of pencils on which the Lord's Prayer has been embossed in gold; a supply of Chick tracts and booklets for your little soulwinner; a King James 1611 Bible; an anointed prayer cloth to ward off the devil and his minions; a detector that will sound an alarm if a homer comes near your child (it also dials 911 and the Landover Security Office); a 5x7" glossy portrait of Pastor Zeke studying his KJV; paste; construction paper (for appropriate ages); and a coupon for one FREE pie from Naomi's Moist Pie (conditions apply). Let's make this a successful campaign. Your Salvation® depends upon it.

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Yes. Mrs. Lamb! I am new here and a schoolteacher. I am not a member of your Church but I am learning about the Bible and related issues, yes. I am just wishing to express how wonderful you are in charity. There are so many children living in poverty that are having great trouble acquiring equipment for school. It is necessary that women such as you are coming to the rescue. Yes.

My religion revers people like you in high esteem, yes. In Jaina Sutras (224 Kalpa Sutra) we are seeing this: "Reverence ...to the highest in the world, the guides of the world, the benefactors of the world, the lights of the world, the enlighteners of the world ; to the givers of safety, to the givers of sight, to the givers of the road, to the givers of shelter, to the givers of life, to the givers of knowledge." Surely, you can be one of the benefactors of the world. I am trying to be a giver a knowledge in the future. Yes. Wonderful. I have not seen very much charity yet in this Forum. Now I am less afraid having encountered a woman with a large heart. Yes! It is again the same in Christianity and Jainism. One world, one soul, many truths! Yes.


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Default Re: Naomi's Scholars for Christ Crusade - 08-29-2014, 07:50 AM

I cannot say enough good things about Naomi's Moist Pie!

Before last week, I had never been in Naomi's Moist Pie. It just wasn't my thing, I guess. In even remember when I received the invitation to the Grand Opening and I sort of threw it away thinking "I am really busy these days and know I won't be able to come."

What a mistake!

I was so moved by Sister Naomi's extensive generosity and her embodiment of Hebrews 13:16 that I figured "what the heck," and I went over there last Wednesday. I could smell it from the down the block! And what a crowd! There were guys lined up to get in there and Naomi was even taking some in the back door. This was very encouraging because if so many other guys had been in there, there for sure would be something for me to eat.

And there sure was! The interior is decorated with pastels, rosy and pink. It is very open and welcoming. And as Naomi will tell you, I actually came three times last week! First, I got a Pecan Pie fresh from the oven, and it was delicious, and so was the Chocolate Walnut Pie I bought the next day and the North Carolina Peanut Pie I got the day after that! [HINT: heat all of them gently in the microwave before serving because a nut in your mouth is even more delicious when it is warm. ]

Long story short, Sister Naomi is the best, she has a big heart, and Naomi's Moist Pie is definitely worth going down to. I gave it 5 stars on Trip Advisor.


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Default Re: Naomi's Scholars for Christ Crusade - 08-30-2014, 06:50 AM

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I cannot say enough good things about Naomi's Moist Pie!

Before last week, I had never been in Naomi's Moist Pie. It just wasn't my thing, I guess. In even remember when I received the invitation to the Grand Opening and I sort of threw it away thinking "I am really busy these days and know I won't be able to come."

What a mistake!

I was so moved by Sister Naomi's extensive generosity and her embodiment of Hebrews 13:16 that I figured "what the heck," and I went over there last Wednesday. I could smell it from the down the block! And what a crowd! There were guys lined up to get in there and Naomi was even taking some in the back door. This was very encouraging because if so many other guys had been in there, there for sure would be something for me to eat.

And there sure was! The interior is decorated with pastels, rosy and pink. It is very open and welcoming. And as Naomi will tell you, I actually came three times last week! First, I got a Pecan Pie fresh from the oven, and it was delicious, and so was the Chocolate Walnut Pie I bought the next day and the North Carolina Peanut Pie I got the day after that! [HINT: heat all of them gently in the microwave before serving because a nut in your mouth is even more delicious when it is warm. ]

Long story short, Sister Naomi is the best, she has a big heart, and Naomi's Moist Pie is definitely worth going down to. I gave it 5 stars on Trip Advisor.
My Sweet Formerly Homer Friend,

Please - give the glory to God. After all, this thread is about the children, bless their hearts. I am so humbled by your kindness. No doubt you will donate to the cause?

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Default Re: Naomi's Scholars for Christ Crusade - 08-30-2014, 06:30 PM

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My religion revers people like you in high esteem, yes. In Jaina Sutras (224 Kalpa Sutra) we are seeing this: "Reverence ...to the highest in the world, the guides of the world, the benefactors of the world, the lights of the world, the enlighteners of the world ; to the givers of safety, to the givers of sight, to the givers of the road, to the givers of shelter, to the givers of life, to the givers of knowledge." Surely, you can be one of the benefactors of the world. I am trying to be a giver a knowledge in the future. Yes. Wonderful. I have not seen very much charity yet in this Forum. Now I am less afraid having encountered a woman with a large heart. Yes! It is again the same in Christianity and Jainism. One world, one soul, many truths! Yes.
WRONG!!! WRONG WRONG!!

There is NOTHING similar to your ...whatever it is you are quoting and the precious words of Jesus Christ! John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me" There is nothing that worshiping this:


Has to do with worshiping the one True God!! Just look at Jesus and you can see why!


Revelation 19:15-16 "And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords."
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WRONG!!! WRONG WRONG!!

There is NOTHING similar to your ...whatever it is you are quoting and the precious words of Jesus Christ! John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me" There is nothing that worshiping this:
Amen, amen, AMEN!!!

Only the Catholics have something similar to this pagan atrocity, but that just goes to prove (once again) that Catholics aren't Christians:

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WRONG!!! WRONG WRONG!!

There is NOTHING similar to your ...whatever it is you are quoting and the precious words of Jesus Christ! John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me" There is nothing that worshiping this...
Has to do with worshiping the one True God!! Just look at Jesus and you can see why!
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Amen, amen, AMEN!!!

Only the Catholics have something similar to this pagan atrocity, but that just goes to prove (once again) that Catholics aren't Christians...
Yes, Dear Mr. Helwys and Mrs. Basilissa. Of course you are correct, in the world of a single truth none of my words can be of any significance. Yes, it is so. Yes, I know you are making fun of me and it is your right. I must say that I am not worshipping any deity, even less an image with three faces. Also I am finding it ludicrous. My traditional religion is not theistic and I have some difficulties trying to believe in any supernatural at all. Being here it is becoming more difficult. Yes.

Still, I am saying: Charity is charity. The recipient is not aware if a god is behind a donation. Charity is charity for a cat shelter. They do not care if it is Christian money or Jainist money or Islamic money. They are wiser than any of us, the cats, eh? Help is help. Need is need. Survival is survival, eh? Violence is violence and pain is pain be it elicited by love or hate. That is why I am choosing non-violence. But yes! I understand it is not the truth over here. I


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Yes, Dear Mr. Helwys and Mrs. Basilissa. Of course you are correct, in the world of a single truth none of my words can be of any significance. <<unimportant drivel deleted>>
Dearest Harsha,

Your contributions to my charity will be gratefully received. After all, the children are the benefactors, and the LORD will know you reached out in kindness. It matters little that you do not believe in Him. You see, He believes in You! Praise God. He is so good, all the time.

Continue to learn of Him and be open to His voice. We seek to show you the reality of God's Word - a reality that, once you "get it," is clear as day.

In love and unity,
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1 Samuel 8:13 "And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cookes, and to be bakers."
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Dearest Harsha,

Your contributions to my charity will be gratefully received. After all, the children are the benefactors, and the LORD will know you reached out in kindness. It matters little that you do not believe in Him. You see, He believes in You! Praise God. He is so good, all the time.

Continue to learn of Him and be open to His voice. We seek to show you the reality of God's Word - a reality that, once you "get it," is clear as day.

In love and unity,
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Yes. Mrs. Lamb. You have very kind words. I am sure the children will be rejoicing in your gifts. I am also happy that your god is generous and good. Yes. There must be many types of Christian gods here in this Forum, too, I see. The kind god and the violent. Many truths. So wonderful and beautiful! Yes. "Mahavtra meditated on his Self, in blameless lodgings, in blameless wandering, in restraint, kindness, avoidance of sinful influence (sawvara), chaste life, in patience, freedom from passion, contentment ; control, circumspectffess, practising religious postures and acts;" Yes, like you, Mrs. Lamb! (That is Jaina Sutras I, Book II, Lecture 1)


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Yes. Mrs. Lamb. You have very kind words. I am sure the children will be rejoicing in your gifts. I am also happy that your god is generous and good. Yes. There must be many types of Christian gods here in this Forum, too, I see. The kind god and the violent. Many truths. So wonderful and beautiful!
What are you rambling about, sweetie?

There is only one God, who creates good and evil:

Isaiah 45:7. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.


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Pay no attention, Sister Lissa. This is probably just one of the Blackpool Scotch, pretending to be an Indian, oh my goodness. I suspect he is probably a retarded.


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Yes, Mrs. Basilissa. You must be absolute right. In our world good and evil are intimately intertwined and not separate. We can all be sources of both good and evil and our good intentions can turn into evil outcomes. Yes.
No. Like I said earlier, God is the source of all good and evil; we are just the conduits.

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?


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It is happening all the time. It is so difficult to have any effect on the side of good but I'm still struggling to do it. Non-violence. Yes. But sometimes bad intentions can bring goodness, eh? I am trying to support a cause that I see good even if the religion is not my own.


What is all that non-violence talk? You cannot make an omelette without breaking a few eggs, if you know what I mean.

Oh, right, you don't know, because you only kill plants for food*, no animals (plants do feel pain, you know).



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* well actually, since it's hard to determine the moment of death of a plant, you might just cook them alive or even eat them alive (if you eat raw foods).
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I am beyond amazed at the outpouring of support our Scholars for Christ fundraiser has enjoyed. (Well, except from the cheap seats of the sanctuary. Your lack of support has been reported to the Department of Faith.) Thanks to the generosity of the faithful, no Freehold child will have to settle for a vinyl gym bag or cheap number one pencil this year! We have already started delivering supplies to our precious young ones.

But wait - there's MORE!

We had such a surplus of donations and therefore a surplus of supplies, so we are able to distribute learning materials for ALL homeschooled children in Freehold. What does this mean? For one, it means faithful home educators such as our dear, kind, glowing Mary Etheldreda will not have to ask her husband to fork over his hard-earned money so that her little sweethearts can learn to read, write, and praise Jesus. (Yes, mathematics takes a seat behind our Lord, thank you very much). I can only imagine the joy this will bring our wonderful citizens. Did you know that the average price of a home schooling curriculum that glorifies our Lord and doesn't mention evolution is - well - exorbitant?

I am humbled and wish to give ALL the glory to GOD for this successful crusade.

In Praise and Worship,
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No. Like I said earlier, God is the source of all good and evil; we are just the conduits.

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?


What is all that non-violence talk? You cannot make an omelette without breaking a few eggs, if you know what I mean.

Oh, right, you don't know, because you only kill plants for food*, no animals (plants do feel pain, you know).
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* well actually, since it's hard to determine the moment of death of a plant, you might just cook them alive or even eat them alive (if you eat raw foods).
Yes Mrs. Basilissa. You certainly are correct and wiser than I am in this respect. I do not doubt the link and I have seen such links before. Of course there are chemical responses to injury in plants.

What is pain? Pain is response to harmful stimuli in the central nervous system of an organism. Plants are surely organic, Plants surely do not have a nervous system or a central nervous system. Pain is also perception. A bee has perception, a coral maybe less but still some. Plants have responses but no perception. I am not sure but still I am acting and eating something. I am not perfect. I can only try to minimize violence. But even if I am not totally succeeding, why not at least try. It is a complex world. Not 0% and 100% but also 47%, eh? Sorry, if I am offending you. Yes, I probably am. You are kind and always answer my questions patiently. Yes.


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Yes Mrs. Basilissa. You certainly are correct and wiser than I am in this respect. I do not doubt the link and I have seen such links before. Of course there are chemical responses to injury in plants.

What is pain? Pain is response to harmful stimuli in the central nervous system of an organism. Plants are surely organic, Plants surely do not have a nervous system or a central nervous system. Pain is also perception. A bee has perception, a coral maybe less but still some. Plants have responses but no perception.
Science disagrees.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...iel-chamovitz/
(BTW, it's Miss Basilissa).

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I am not sure but still I am acting and eating something. I am not perfect. I can only try to minimize violence. But even if I am not totally succeeding, why not at least try. It is a complex world. Not 0% and 100% but also 47%, eh? Sorry, if I am offending you. Yes, I probably am. You are kind and always answer my questions patiently. Yes.
Oh, no, you are not offending me. Actually, I have a few questions I always wanted to ask vegans:

1. If a mosquitoe bites you, what do you do - kil it, let it feed, or scare it away (and possibly let it starve to death)?
2. If you see a cat chasing a mouse, what do you do, save the mouse or let the cat kill and feed? (The latter would imply that you understand there is a natural order of things eating each other; in that order, we humans are equipped with omnivorous denture, hence, God designed us to eat everything).
3. Do you carefully look at the ground each time you move, to check if you are not squishing any bugs/insects?
4. If you see a boa snake strangling a human child, do you let it do it (following the natural order of things) or do you kill the snake to save the baby?

I'm not sure why are we talking about stuff like that in a thread about innocent children, but I'm genuinely curious
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Yes Mrs. Basilissa. You certainly are correct and wiser than I am in this respect. I do not doubt the link and I have seen such links before. Of course there are chemical responses to injury in plants.

What is pain? Pain is response to harmful stimuli in the central nervous system of an organism. Plants are surely organic, Plants surely do not have a nervous system or a central nervous system.
Immortal souls surely do not have a central nervous system either, so by your logic does that mean they can't feel pain either? You'd better fix your ways quick-sharp or you'll find yourself spending a great deal of time learning exactly how wrong you are on that particular count!


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I am beyond amazed at the outpouring of support our Scholars for Christ fundraiser has enjoyed. (Well, except from the cheap seats of the sanctuary. Your lack of support has been reported to the Department of Faith.) Thanks to the generosity of the faithful, no Freehold child will have to settle for a vinyl gym bag or cheap number one pencil this year! We have already started delivering supplies to our precious young ones.

But wait - there's MORE!

We had such a surplus of donations and therefore a surplus of supplies, so we are able to distribute learning materials for ALL homeschooled children in Freehold. What does this mean? For one, it means faithful home educators such as our dear, kind, glowing Mary Etheldreda will not have to ask her husband to fork over his hard-earned money so that her little sweethearts can learn to read, write, and praise Jesus. (Yes, mathematics takes a seat behind our Lord, thank you very much). I can only imagine the joy this will bring our wonderful citizens. Did you know that the average price of a home schooling curriculum that glorifies our Lord and doesn't mention evolution is - well - exorbitant?

I am humbled and wish to give ALL the glory to GOD for this successful crusade.

In Praise and Worship,
NRL

PS: Please note that the autographed pictures of Pastor Ezekiel are NOT machine reproduced! The pastor personally stated he wanted to put his hand on every child in our city, so he did so symbolically by autographing every single photo himself. What an amazing man!
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Sister Naomi,

This is wonderful news! May the Lord bless you for taking initiative in this! I know you are such a kind, wonderful lady and that you spend much time in the Bible since you are so prosperous, as Joshua 1:8 says, "This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success."

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http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...iel-chamovitz/
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Oh, no, you are not offending me. Actually, I have a few questions I always wanted to ask vegans:

1. If a mosquitoe bites you, what do you do - kil it, let it feed, or scare it away (and possibly let it starve to death)?
2. If you see a cat chasing a mouse, what do you do, save the mouse or let the cat kill and feed? (The latter would imply that you understand there is a natural order of things eating each other; in that order, we humans are equipped with omnivorous denture, hence, God designed us to eat everything).
3. Do you carefully look at the ground each time you move, to check if you are not squishing any bugs/insects?
4. If you see a boa snake strangling a human child, do you let it do it (following the natural order of things) or do you kill the snake to save the baby?

I'm not sure why are we talking about stuff like that in a thread about innocent children, but I'm genuinely curious
Yes, Miss Basilissa, I am very sorry. In our culture we are used to addressing authorities as aunt, Mrs. or even Mother. I am trying to be polite but I caused offense. Sadly, yes.

You must understand that I am not a strict follower of Jainism. I am trying to do my best but I accept that our world is not perfect, I am not perfect. Some of my decisions are not 100% non-violent. Yes, most of them are not. I can live with that. That is also the case with plants. They are responding to stimuli chemically. It is not the same as animal nervous system. And I am a secular woman. I am not ready to starve myself to death yet...

Your nice questions:
1. Yes. I scare it away. Mosquitoes can live on nectar - they also can be non-violent. They produce less eggs that way but they are still living and making eggs.
2. Yes. I do not decide on behalf of the cat and the mouse. They are living by their own rules.
3. Yes. I do not like to walk around in darkness without streetlights because of this.
4. Of course I will be trying to save the child. Yes. I am not living according to rules that are only yes and no. There is also maybe, there is sometimes, there is probably never. I am also thinking - are the only possible alternatives that one of them has to die? Can you not save the child and not kill the snake. I am also very fortunate that I am probably never going to encounter this situation, yes!


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Yes, Miss Basilissa, I am very sorry. In our culture we are used to addressing authorities as aunt, Mrs. or even Mother. I am trying to be polite but I caused offense. Sadly, yes.
Well, I'm certainly no authority, dear (1 Timothy 2:12).

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You must understand that I am not a strict follower of Jainism. I am trying to do my best but I accept that our world is not perfect, I am not perfect. Some of my decisions are not 100% non-violent. Yes, most of them are not. I can live with that. That is also the case with plants. They are responding to stimuli chemically. It is not the same as animal nervous system. And I am a secular woman. I am not ready to starve myself to death yet...
Let me ask you this, then:
why follow a religion which has impossible requirements? The only way of leading a 100% non-violent life is, as you say, starving yourself to death. That is not very productive, is it?

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4. Of course I will be trying to save the child. Yes. I am not living according to rules that are only yes and no. There is also maybe, there is sometimes, there is probably never. I am also thinking - are the only possible alternatives that one of them has to die? Can you not save the child and not kill the snake. I am also very fortunate that I am probably never going to encounter this situation, yes!
Oh, just substitute a "boa strangling a child" for "dog biting a child," or something like that, and you'll expand the probability

Thank you for answering my questions. I have one more:

If you were ever infected with fleas, lice, stomach worms, or diarrhea-causing bacteria, what would you do? Let them live and feed on you, or kill them? (I guess you could carefully pluck your fleas and lice and put them on another host - just leaving them somewhere will make them starve to death - but I don't think there is a non-violent way of dealing with stomach worms and bacteria).

By the way. You say it's not the same to kill a plant as to kill an animal because plants don't possess a central nervous system. Well, insects don't either, and therefore they don't feel pain, yet you insist on not killing mosquitoes. Why such a double standard?

PS: I deeply apologize to Naomi for being so off-topic. I guess we can use this discussion to educate youngsters about how irrational false religions are!
 

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