[Alphonse Alban]

Originally Posted by ajroloff the queer

I don't believe in hell, sorry dude...

Apologizing to me about your disgusting ways or denying hell is futile. It's Jesus you should seek for forgiveness because in hell they DO believe in you.
Even in your black gay-heart you know I am right.


YiC,

Alphonse

[Nobar King]

Originally Posted by ajroloff the queer

if anything you should be picking at the fact that I support gay rights...

You're a sex traitor. If you ever have children don't you worry that they will hate you for promoting homosexualism?

[ajroloff the queer]

Originally Posted by Alphonse Alban

Apologizing to me about your disgusting ways or denying hell is futile. It's Jesus you should seek for forgiveness because in hell they DO believe in you.
Even in your black gay-heart you know I am right.


YiC,

Alphonse

I was being more friendly to be honest, like I am trying to be now, so I think this should be a Agree to Disagree situations.

To you (and a few other people on this forum) I am disgusting, to me however? I am normal, I live a normal life, I do normal things, I fall in love and genuinely have fun, I am just a normal guy living my life, everything that you find "disgusting" is your opinion (again a agree to disagree moment).

And with how you end you post with reference to my "black gay heart" I find it incredible offensive and bloody annoying... congrats Alban you have actually managed to annoy / get me in a bad mood.

I would now go as far to say that you have a black heart as you look at the world with such hate. You hate anything that doesn't comply with your beliefs and you think they should be destroyed! things like that don't normally mean anything good. is this were a movie you would probabaly be a stooge to the main villian.

Me on the other hand, I welcome everything in the world, I accept everyone one for who they are, as long as it makes them happy, if someone doesn't match my beliefs so be it, thats the way the world goes.

....

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by ajroloff the queer

Yes, Not all biker are in gangs...

Yes, Not all Italians are in the mafia...

and Yes, I would probably say that almost all atheists are not serial killers...

So yes its the "Darn 1%"

Do you know anything? or do you just think in stereotypes?



Ha! thanks, but my mind is fine, I'm in good(ish) shape and I will not be going to hell as I don't believe in hell, sorry dude...

I know that I do not have what you call the "homo-virus" as I have been a smart guy when it comes to things like that (I believe that the phrase I have been hearing is "before you rock, roll!"), and I am smart enough to know that you can't get AIDS or any other STD through touching someone...

Nowwith these constant attempts to say that I am gay, the thing is, I am comfortable with my sexuality, I am straight (I have made a few girls comfortable too... bad joke huh?... not time time either... thought so), if anything you should be picking at the fact that I support gay rights...

You think you aren't gay, but seriously: you're a sodomite.

(Amos 3:3) "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

You hang out with rump rangers and carpet munchers, so you are gay. Accept it, then you can CHANGE it.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[ajroloff the queer]

Originally Posted by Nobar King

You're a sex traitor. If you ever have children don't you worry that they will hate you for promoting homosexualism?

Ha! good mood back, and no when I have children many years from now, I will teach them the difference between right and wrong, I will teach them to accept people for who they are, regardless of if they are Black, muslim, gay or welsh...

[ajroloff the queer]

Originally Posted by Zechariah Smyth

You think you aren't gay, but seriously: you're a sodomite.

(Amos 3:3) "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

You hang out with rump rangers and carpet munchers, so you are gay. Accept it, then you can CHANGE it.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

Ok, so according to you I do not know myself... because since you say I am actually gay... I must be gay... you also use a book that I do not workshop as evidence.... wow this book must know me better than I do myself or something...

and yes I do hang out with gays and lesbians because I find them good as people, and I do not want them to change because a book says so.... and do you know something neither will I...

[Alphonse Alban]

Originally Posted by ajroloff the queer

I find it incredible offensive and bloody annoying... congrats Alban you have actually managed to annoy / get me in a bad mood.

Typical heathen, thinking it's all about you. Well it is not about you, it's all about God. You monkey-worshipers are just so incredibly selfish people.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by ajroloff the queer

Ok, so according to you I do not know myself... because since you say I am actually gay... I must be gay... you also use a book that I do not workshop as evidence.... wow this book must know me better than I do myself or something...

and yes I do hang out with gays and lesbians because I find them good as people, and I do not want them to change because a book says so.... and do you know something neither will I...

PROGRESS!!!



There's hope for you yet, friend!

YiC,

Z. Smyth

[ajroloff the queer]

Originally Posted by Alphonse Alban

Typical heathen, thinking it's all about you. Well it is not about you, it's all about God. You monkey-worshipers are just so incredibly selfish people.

I missed you Alban...

I don't see anything selfish in the way I act, I care about people, a lot of people in fact, I care about my family, I care about my friends, and I care about the rights of people.

You on the other hand want to take away the rights of these people because according to you they are wrong, they don't match gods plan, or in fact, you plans / beliefs

Do you see what I am implying here.... pot calling the kettle black comes to mind....

Now with this "monkey worshipper" jab. I don't worship a monkey, that implies that I worship a god that is a monkey, when if you remember I am atheist.

So with this finally idea that I am selfish, I see no signs of me being selfish in my life....

[Nobar King]

Originally Posted by ajroloff the queer

when I have children many years from now, I will teach them the difference between right and wrong, I will teach them to accept people for who they are, regardless of if they are Black, muslim, gay or welsh...

Your secret racism is now showing itself. That short list is pretty obvious evidence that you follow common stereotypes. It's no wonder that you hate Christians, too. Who else do you hate? Children? Dogs? Fat people?

[ajroloff the queer]

Originally Posted by Zechariah Smyth

PROGRESS!!!



There's hope for you yet, friend!

YiC,

Z. Smyth

SARCASM!!!!!!! Read my previous posts....

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by ajroloff the queer

SARCASM!!!!!!! Read my previous posts....

I wasn't being sarcastic.



I am truly interested in your salvation: I want you to give the Bible a sporting chance. Read it all the way through, it doesn't take long. If you like it, fine, if you don't, well, you don't. At least you made an effort.

Sincerely in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[ajroloff the queer]

Originally Posted by Nobar King

Your secret racism is now showing itself. That short list is pretty obvious evidence that you follow common stereotypes. It's no wonder that you hate Christians, too. Who else do you hate? Children? Dogs? Fat people?

Wow! can you point out this racism please... cause I don't see any racism.... maybe a joke or too.... but no racism

If you'll read it again you see that I will teach my children to accept people for who they are regardless!

And where is this apparent hatred of christians from...

[John Creeser]

Originally Posted by ajroloff the queer

I don't see anything selfish in the way I act, I care about people, a lot of people in fact, I care about my family, I care about my friends, and I care about the rights of people.

Really?

You approve of homosexuality when the Bible says otherwise.

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

You say you care for your friends and family? Do you preach the Good Word to them as God commands? I bet you talk about rights for homers and the newest game for the Atari 380.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Rights? What about the right of True Christians? You atheists are the most selfish people ever. You do despicable acts of debauchery, spit in the face of Baby Jesus and try and take OUR rights away. The Good News for us, you're all damned.

Psalm 52:5-7: God shall likewise destroy thee for ever, he shall take thee away, and pluck thee out of [thy] dwelling place, and root thee out of the land of the living. Selah. The righteous also shall see, and fear, and shall laugh at him: Lo, [this is] the man [that] made not God his strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, [and] strengthened himself in his wickedness.

[Alphonse Alban]

Originally Posted by ajroloff the queer

I missed you Alban...

Of course you did, it's natural for you people to look up to your superiors.

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by ajroloff the queer

Now with this "monkey worshipper" jab. I don't worship a monkey etc..

Tree worshippers don't worship a tree, they worship trees. Sometimes they might have a "special" tree - but it is the idea of trees sustaining us, providing air that we can breathe & amongst which we live and move and have our being..

And not only the trees of antiquity (perhaps thought of as the ones which made the first oxygen "for us") but the wonderful world of trees more generally.

Trees of the modern era. Spruce and Birch and Bracken. Trees. Trees. Trees.

Sometimes people worship things like Zeus. Was Zeus mortal? Were there statues of Zeus (yes, there were)? Perhaps someone might have a "special' statue - but it is the idea of Zeus sustaining us, providing for us & in whom we live and move and have our being..

And not only the Zeus of antiquity (perhaps the one who awakened unconscious Psyche) but the wonderful world of Zeus nore generally.

Zeus of the modern era. Hippie shop and discotheque and LSD. Zeus. Zeus. Zeus.

Twenty million years ago, the atheist spouts, a common ancester of hominid and of gibbon and of chimpanzee watched the sun rise for his last time. Did he imagine in his final dream that one day all his offspriing might prevail & in so many different forms?

The evolutionist is wrong. There is no common ancestor. Nevertheless, secular atheism teaches in our schools that in this swarm of monkeys apes and pithecines we live and move and have our being.

It is in the nature of worship to think so. Concerning Zeus, we have poetry which shows how Zeus was regarded:

Cleanthes
For we from Thee an offspring are,
to whom, alone of mortals
That live and move along the Earth
the Mimic Voice is granted:

Epimenides
For in thee we live and move and have our being.

There is no such thing as conscious trees, there is no such thing as Zeus - but that doesn't stop people celebrating their own false ideas.

False ideas of the modern era. Ganlea megacanina and Africa Asia and tiny tarsier. Monkeys. Monkeys. Monkeys.

Perhaps you don't worship a monkey, but to immerse yourself in some eternal sea of DNA and chromosomes and simian intercopulation is to worship monkeys whether you know it or not. God tells us that you are wrong:

ROMANS 1
24 Wherefore God also gaue them vp to vncleannesse, through the lusts of their owne hearts, to dishonour their owne bodies betweene themselues:
25 Who changed the trueth of God into a lye, and worshipped and serued the creature more then the Creatour, who is blessed for euer. Amen.

You do not even acknowledge that He exists. What else is there for you to worship?

[ajroloff the queer]

Originally Posted by John Creeser

Really?

You approve of homosexuality when the Bible says otherwise.

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

You say you care for your friends and family? Do you preach the Good Word to them as God commands? I bet you talk about rights for homers and the newest game for the Atari 380.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Rights? What about the right of True Christians? You atheists are the most selfish people ever. You do despicable acts of debauchery, spit in the face of Baby Jesus and try and take OUR rights away. The Good News for us, you're all damned.

Psalm 52:5-7: God shall likewise destroy thee for ever, he shall take thee away, and pluck thee out of [thy] dwelling place, and root thee out of the land of the living. Selah. The righteous also shall see, and fear, and shall laugh at him: Lo, [this is] the man [that] made not God his strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, [and] strengthened himself in his wickedness.

Hi John

I really do believe that I am not selfish, as letting all people have their rights is a good thing normally, and to be honest, I don’t really care what the bible says (waits for the hundreds of infractions) as it was written two thousand years ago, and since I am atheist and do not believe in your god, I think the laws of the bible do not count to someone like me…

And yes, I care a lot about my friends and family; since the family members that I speak to are also atheist it does not come up much (my mother however, does believe in god, not to the extent that you guys and girls do, but she does believe in him). So since we care about each other we discuss the things that we like and dislike, I do not talk about rights for gay people with them, as it is something that I believe…

Originally Posted by Alphonse Alban

Of course you did, it's natural for you people to look up to your superiors.

Alban, out of everything we discussed, the rights, the wrongs, and you being perfect for a stooge role in a film, this is the only thing you can reply with, you seriously could of said anything else, anything would have been better than… this reply… I’m actually ashamed of you now…. I expected better….

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

Tree worshippers don't worship a tree, they worship trees. Sometimes they might have a "special" tree - but it is the idea of trees sustaining us, providing air that we can breathe & amongst which we live and move and have our being..

And not only the trees of antiquity (perhaps thought of as the ones which made the first oxygen "for us") but the wonderful world of trees more generally.

Trees of the modern era. Spruce and Birch and Bracken. Trees. Trees. Trees.

Sometimes people worship things like Zeus. Was Zeus mortal? Were there statues of Zeus (yes, there were)? Perhaps someone might have a "special' statue - but it is the idea of Zeus sustaining us, providing for us & in whom we live and move and have our being..

And not only the Zeus of antiquity (perhaps the one who awakened unconscious Psyche) but the wonderful world of Zeus nore generally.

Zeus of the modern era. Hippie shop and discotheque and LSD. Zeus. Zeus. Zeus.

Twenty million years ago, the atheist spouts, a common ancester of hominid and of gibbon and of chimpanzee watched the sun rise for his last time. Did he imagine in his final dream that one day all his offspriing might prevail & in so many different forms?

The evolutionist is wrong. There is no common ancestor. Nevertheless, secular atheism teaches in our schools that in this swarm of monkeys apes and pithecines we live and move and have our being.

It is in the nature of worship to think so. Concerning Zeus, we have poetry which shows how Zeus was regarded:

Cleanthes
For we from Thee an offspring are,
to whom, alone of mortals
That live and move along the Earth
the Mimic Voice is granted:

Epimenides
For in thee we live and move and have our being.

There is no such thing as conscious trees, there is no such thing as Zeus - but that doesn't stop people celebrating their own false ideas.

False ideas of the modern era. Ganlea megacanina and Africa Asia and tiny tarsier. Monkeys. Monkeys. Monkeys.

Perhaps you don't worship a monkey, but to immerse yourself in some eternal sea of DNA and chromosomes and simian intercopulation is to worship monkeys whether you know it or not. God tells us that you are wrong:

ROMANS 1
24 Wherefore God also gaue them vp to vncleannesse, through the lusts of their owne hearts, to dishonour their owne bodies betweene themselues:
25 Who changed the trueth of God into a lye, and worshipped and serued the creature more then the Creatour, who is blessed for euer. Amen.

You do not even acknowledge that He exists. What else is there for you to worship?

I like you Liza.... you make me smile.... don't make me have to change my mind about you...

In you turns, to worship something is to pray to it, to do its bidding, to live by its word… in essence like how Christians worship god, with the way that you say I worship a monkey whether I realize it or not, I find that wrong, as I do not pray to a monkey in the sky, I do not do a monkeys bidding and I do not live by a monkey laws (I had a joke about the British government and their laws but I seemed to have misplaced it). I simply go about my day, I go to work, I go to university, I meet up with friends, I fall in love etc.

When I first accepted that I did not feel the presence of god in my life, I was some what relieved, as I have said many times on this website before, I only really followed religion because I was terrified of going to hell, around the age of 12 onwards (once I left my Christian school) I allowed my mind to grow, and through reading books, hearing about other religions, and studying science I realized I was atheist (for a while, I considered myself to be agnostic).
So evolution, for me anyway, seems like the most logical explanation to how we came to be, how we evolved from living in the sea to being the humans we are today.

Now you bring up Zeus and it is a subject I find really interesting, as in modern times, it is accepted that Zeus and the other gods were made up thousands of years ago by the Greeks, some say to explain the presence of your god, and others might say just to make themselves comfortable with the world, give everything meaning (e.g. an earthquake “Oh, the gods are mad at us”).

Now for me this is the same thing, I think man to explain everything created, god, and the idea has expanded over the years to what it is today.

Originally Posted by Zechariah Smyth

I wasn't being sarcastic.



I am truly interested in your salvation: I want you to give the Bible a sporting chance. Read it all the way through, it doesn't take long. If you like it, fine, if you don't, well, you don't. At least you made an effort.

Sincerely in Christ,

Z. Smyth

Okay Smith, thanks for your worrying, and I can tell you that I have genuinely given the bible a sporting chance as I did go to an all Christian school for a couple of years, where we learnt about the bible, its teachings, etc. Even though I may not know/remember as much as the bible as you do, I still know and am able to remember certain areas and teachings, so I have given the bible a sporting chance, I give you my word (even though a word of an atheist probably means nothing to a Christian).

[Redeemed Papist]

When I first accepted that I did not feel the presence of god in my life, I was some what relieved (Satan at work), as I have said many times on this website before, I only really followed religion because I was terrified of going to hell

This is all right and proper.

There's still time for you to repent and turn away from false doctrines and get back to a healthy fear of the eternal damnation that awaits you if you don't.

[MisterM]

Originally Posted by ajroloff the queer

I have genuinely given the bible a sporting chance as I did go to an all Christian school for a couple of years, where we learnt about the bible, its teachings, etc.

No you did not. You learnt what you were told, you did not really read it and understood it. It is so funny when people tell that they know Bible and then they start to preach about forgiving fluffy bunny hippie Jesus that has nothing to do what the Bible says.


YiC, M

[tehnoobydude]

In my opinion, as long as you didn't intentionally want to touch yourself and pray for forgiveness and it was purely an accident...then I think you're in the clear.