[Johny Joe Hold]

When we True Christians™ tackle a problem science problem, we look deeply at cause and effect.

Let's start with the problem. Blizzards with blinding snow are getting worse. We have straight line winds called derechos in the summer. Why is this happening?

Turn on the table fan in your house. Feel the wind. Then on the highway, look at the hundreds of huge fans called "wind turbines." Connect the dots with blizzards and derechos.

We need to go back to coal and oil. They are God's favorite sources of energy and they do not cause blizzards.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...ng-a-wind-farm

[Dennis Lukes]

Yeah and if the tree huggers are so interested in saving energy, how come they're installing giant fans all over the countryside anyway? I've got a ceiling fan in every room of my motel and guess what? Every single one of them uses electricity.

These people are so stupid.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Originally Posted by Dennis Lukes

Yeah and if the tree huggers are so interested in saving energy, how come they're installing giant fans all over the countryside anyway? I've got a ceiling fan in every room of my motel and guess what? Every single one of them uses electricity.
These people are so stupid.

You know your science, Brother Lukes. I wish the tree huggers knew theirs.

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/11/28/the-blade-runners-powering-a-wind-farm

300’ internal ladders? Think about all the carbon emissions climbing up one of those! So often we hear that electric cars have zero emissions (I saw an ad for one only yesterday making that claim) yet decades ago, in an example from Johannesburg, there were similar towers for broadcasting radio signals (with observation deck in this case) and they at least provided a lift - an ELECTRIC lift and (according to the agendaniks) therefore emissions free!

Where do they think these towers come from? Where do the blades go at end-of-life? But no, they'd rather have blizzards.

SOME OLD POSTCARDS of Albert Hertzog Tower
the similarity is obvious ~ built in 1950s + LIFT!

[handmaiden]

What's an electric lift? Are you talking about elevators?

[MitzaLizalor]

Well, not exactly. More like one of those things on a construction site – and this was South Africa where they have language problems at the best of times. I'm not even sure if the spelling's right, they have been saying "loft" as in "to rise or soar aloft" but there weren't any stops or floor levels or anything, more like the lift stage of a roller coaster. You just sort of emerged from below, rather eerie in fact. Fast, too – and a bit rattly like a dentist's waiting room left accidentally on an ocean going hovercraft. Quite exciting I suppose but altogether I prefer rail travel.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold

Turn on the table fan in your house. Feel the wind. Then on the highway, look at the hundreds of huge fans called "wind turbines." Connect the dots with blizzards and derechos.

The logic is irrefutable. Irrefutably irrefutable.

Many years ago on this forum, I read a discussion explaining the apparent rise in sea level is caused by the increasing number of mega-yachts displacing water and causing more wake ("storms") on the shore. It's another sign of the increasing wealth of a few raising everyone's speedboats. Presumably this is why nobody in the eco-socialist collective will include it in their "climate" "models", instead requiring "theories" about "invisible" light waves and gases you cannot see, hear, taste or smell. If you don't think gas has a smell, go to the kitchen and do the experiment yourself.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Originally Posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole

The logic is irrefutable. Irrefutably irrefutable.
Presumably this is why nobody in the eco-socialist collective will include it in their "climate" "models", instead requiring "theories" about "invisible" light waves and gases you cannot see, hear, taste or smell. If you don't think gas has a smell, go to the kitchen and do the experiment yourself.

You have nailed it, Dr. Toole. No one has ever seen these "carbon" gases or whatever they are that are supposed to be letting in more sunlight and heating the earth. These are ideas not unlike the fake god Zeus. He was believed in for a while and then rightfully abandoned.

When the cause of high and destructive winds can be determined by hands-on experiments like table fans, liberal scientists have to turn and run.

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole

this is why nobody in the eco-socialist collective will include it in their "climate" "models"

- [Gazing into his crystal ball] ..I beg your pardon?
- I said "WHAT DID YOU DO IN THE GREAT ECO WARS GRANDPA?"
- (don't bother your grandfather Timmy, he was a great General)
- It's OK, Timmy; we saved the world from the pharmo-military-industrial complex: there were many heroes
- After that, how did we manufacture space lasers to defeat the aliens?
- [the crystal ball shatters] ..W ..i ..g ..d ..dd ..ddd
- (stop asking questions and don't go outside the cave)

Timmy looks sadly at his thistle soup but is the scenario so unlikely when the very source of economic growth is spurned amid the envy of those who never had it? They still had the benefits of course, aircraft, telecommunications, instant messaging, shoes, clothes, submarines and so on but that only made the envy worse. Whether homegrown or an as yet undiscovered tribe on alpha-Centauri makes little difference: there's a tidal wave waiting to sweep us back to the stone age. The machines will wear out, there'll be nothing left for pirates to commandeer and they'll resume bashing our heads in with rocks.

By their own "theories" there are "ridges" in the middle of the oceans, like seams sewn together in an a billowing gown (such as they'd wear at halloween but with less holes) where deep underground, eddies of magma press up, forcing the land higher to form islands and volcanos which then move out sideways, such as East and West in the Pacific, becoming the ocean floor until eventually reaching a continent (Australia or the Americas in this case) and slurping back down under in the subduction zones. The great eddy continues on it's eons-long cycle, they inform us.

Timmy is suspicious.

- But then, wouldn't the islands be sinking?
- [flailing on floor, mouth foaming] Gaaaa-aaa-a-aaaaa-aaaaa ! ! !
- (NOW LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE YOU'VE GIVEN HIM ANOTHER TURN
- GO STRAIGHT TO YOUR ROCK AND YOU CAN FORGET ABOUT THAT WILD NUT WE KEPT FOR DESSERT)
- [aside] it was going to be a surprise, too

She sits down weeping.

Asking questions about topics God has already explained only reveals the folly of empirical "investigation" and scientific invisible "theories" which concerning the oceans has been covered thoroughly already.

Jeremiah 5:22-23 Fear ye not me? saith the LORD: will ye not tremble at my presence, which have placed the sand for the bound of the sea by a perpetual decree, that it cannot pass it: and though the waves thereof toss themselves, yet can they not prevail; though they roar, yet can they not pass over it? But this people hath a revolting and a rebellious heart; they are revolted and gone.

[WWJDnow]

For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind....

Hosea 8:7