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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chirstiyen
you do not understand the subtelities of the bible ... It is a cure to the sins they both have commited ... The girl sinned by here seductions and the poor guy had sinned by acting like a man would
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Not exactly but close, re-read the relevant verse again.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by James Hutchins
Again, you are only reading part of the Bible. What about a man lying with a woman and being obliged to marry her? You have to read the whole Bible and follow it all, not just the fun parts.
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I didn't say anything about the marriage part.
I'm posting to counter all the other posts here that completely bypass the sin of the man while condemning the woman.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:20 PM
good evening, morning or afternoon wherever you are at this very moment. i've joined this forum after finding a screenshot of this thread, lingering somewhere on the internet~
now i might look ignorant to you right now since i have just joined and i also haven't read 106 pages of posts, but would none of you have any moral problem with this? it just seems to me that if your daughter would have been raped, as in abused, you would at least protect her from further harm or, you might even attack the rapist yourself, right?
how would you feel if, let's say, a man raped you for reasons unknown to you and your parents would abandon you without a second though? would it not hurt you deeply, knowing that they have left you for dead while you are forced to someone who viciously, brutally, and painfully took away your virginity, that you saved for "that one person"? and even if you are a man, would you be able to take the mental pain of both of these incidents (rape & parents abandoning you + forced to live forever and ever with a person that you might actually hate)?
putting yourself in the shoes of the victim might actually change your outlook on the situation you are discussing at the moment, as opposed to calling a woman a slut while she has not agreed to or hasn't even wanted to have sex with an individual that has committed not only a crime but has also corrupted his purpose; not to harm and to love his fellow christian.
rape =! love.
it is simply giving in to temptations, which is not allowed at all. is this a double standard of some sort?
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by James Hutchins
You need to actually read the entire Bible again. Or, if you are too lazy to do that, skim this thread, there are countless times the relevant passages have been quoted. But making a statement like you just did reeks of ignorance.
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Dude, i have read the whole bible believe me,
i'm a student theology, i know what it says and what it doesn't
and there is never any clue of a man who is allowed to rape a woman
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:27 PM
i read pretty much all of this and am frightened. you call yourself mature?
This thread absolutely underlines my opinion about you true ones, so:
@all christians up here.
you are insane.
you are weak.
you are blind.
you are not better than any other religions / sects.
no one needs 'em.
therefore:
you are pathetic. get it, because youre ruining your life with this ****
start believing in yourselfes, not into something some guy wrote to get the masses.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mathiasp
i read pretty much all of this and am frightened. you call yourself mature?
This thread absolutely underlines my opinion about you true ones, so:
@all christians up here.
you are insane.
you are weak.
you are blind.
you are not better than any other religions / sects.
no one needs 'em.
therefore:
you are pathetic. get it, because youre ruining your life with this ****
start believing in yourselfes, not into something some guy wrote to get the masses.
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Oh?
Do you know better than God?
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by God>you
Dude, i have read the whole bible believe me,
i'm a student theology, i know what it says and what it doesn't
and there is never any clue of a man who is allowed to rape a woman
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You need to read this entire thread. We never said we condoned rape. But once a rape has occurred, the woman is obliged to marry the rapist.
We have discussed why women get raped. The rapist does not always bear all the responsibility. Secular law will deal with the rapist.
I suggest stop being so self righteous and think/read/comprehend before you speak, you'll look less silly.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:29 PM
apparently i was infracted for my previous post. might i ask what exactly was "rude"? i've tried to remain polite throughout my entire post, so...
what is this?
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by James Hutchins
Not exactly but close, re-read the relevant verse again.
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apparently i was infracted for my previous post. might i ask what exactly was "rude"? i've tried to remain polite throughout my entire post, so...
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Administrangulator
apparently i was infracted for my previous post. might i ask what exactly was "rude"? i've tried to remain polite throughout my entire post, so...
what is this?
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You haven't made an Introduction in the Introduction Thread.
You haven't bothered to read through the very Thread you came to complain about.
You just got another Infraction.
God Bless
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:32 PM
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Oh?
Do you know better than God?
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:33 PM
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I feel sorry for you.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by James Hutchins
You need to read this entire thread. We never said we condoned rape. But once a rape has occurred, the woman is obliged to marry the rapist.
We have discussed why women get raped. The rapist does not always bear all the responsibility. Secular law will deal with the rapist.
I suggest stop being so self righteous and think/read/comprehend before you speak, you'll look less silly.
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this is exactly what i mean you heartless man.
if the rape has occurred, obligating the woman to marry the rapist will even further destroy here life.
i think this is a bigger crime than the rape itself
i don't understand how you are able to think like this.
i bet you never have found a woman that loved you if you act and speak like this.
and now you start insulting me?
believe me, i'm not silly, i'm just trying to let you know how real relationships work, because you obviously don't know
you are a disgrace to Christianity,
god would be disappointed in you
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by God>you
this is exactly what i mean you heartless man.
if the rape has occurred, obligating the woman to marry the rapist will even further destroy here life.
i think this is a bigger crime than the rape itself
i don't understand how you are able to think like this.
i bet you never have found a woman that loved you if you act and speak like this.
and now you start insulting me?
believe me, i'm not silly, i'm just trying to let you know how real relationships work, because you obviously don't know
you are a disgrace to Christianity,
god would be disappointed in you
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Brother James is not only Saved but also happily married.
I suggest you take your hatred elsewhere.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by God>you
this is exactly what i mean you heartless man.
if the rape has occurred, obligating the woman to marry the rapist will even further destroy here life.
i think this is a bigger crime than the rape itself
i don't understand how you are able to think like this.
i bet you never have found a woman that loved you if you act and speak like this.
and now you start insulting me?
believe me, i'm not silly, i'm just trying to let you know how real relationships work, because you obviously don't know
you are a disgrace to Christianity,
god would be disappointed in you
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I am sure god knows better than u ... u should read ur bible before making such comments man
Jesus will forgive u for ur sins
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by God>you
this is exactly what i mean you heartless man.
if the rape has occurred, obligating the woman to marry the rapist will even further destroy here life.
i think this is a bigger crime than the rape itself
i don't understand how you are able to think like this.
i bet you never have found a woman that loved you if you act and speak like this.
and now you start insulting me?
believe me, i'm not silly, i'm just trying to let you know how real relationships work, because you obviously don't know
you are a disgrace to Christianity,
god would be disappointed in you
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You poor, mis-guided child. Lashing out because you are uncomfortable with the Word of God is a sad thing to behold. I do not make the rules and laws. As a Real American® and True Christian™, I merely follow them, verbatim with zero deviation.
The Bible states the woman must marry her rapist. I merely repeat and follow His Words.
Your failure to read the entire Bible is your downfall. Nothing makes Him madder than you Cici's pizza bar Christians. You pick and choose, pick and choose what you like, hovering over the dessert bar, ignoring your vegetables. At least with agnostics and atheists, He has a little respect for them as at least they are definite and stand by their convictions. When St. Peter check his list, I assure you, his boot to your butt will be smooth and swift.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by God>you
this is exactly what i mean you heartless man.
if the rape has occurred, obligating the woman to marry the rapist will even further destroy here life.
i think this is a bigger crime than the rape itself
i don't understand how you are able to think like this.
i bet you never have found a woman that loved you if you act and speak like this.
and now you start insulting me?
believe me, i'm not silly, i'm just trying to let you know how real relationships work, because you obviously don't know
you are a disgrace to Christianity,
god would be disappointed in you
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Why do you call yourself Christian? You seem to have a problem with God's Word - get yourself straightened out or burn for ever.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 09:02 PM
How would you feel if i shoved a stap on up your butt! Would you feel raped. She should press charges and the bible was NOT WRITTEN BY GOD! But by men! Rape is wrong and about power not sex! If I wore a poloneck jeans and a heavy coat only felsh you could see was that of my face and was raped would that be MY FAULT! Did i lead him on by dressing provocitavily? This poor woman has been through enough! Why do you have to be so sadistic and force her to marry a man if you can call him that, that she dosnt love?! This is sick and disgusting!! YOUR ALL SICK!
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 09:06 PM
I'm not sure what a stap on is, but I'm pretty sure I do not like objects inserted down there.
What are you, a pervert?
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I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
01-09-2010, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jennifer-Jane
How would you feel if i shoved a stap on up your butt! Would you feel raped. She should press charges and the bible was NOT WRITTEN BY GOD! But by men! Rape is wrong and about power not sex! If I wore a poloneck jeans and a heavy coat only felsh you could see was that of my face and was raped would that be MY FAULT! Did i lead him on by dressing provocitavily? This poor woman has been through enough! Why do you have to be so sadistic and force her to marry a man if you can call him that, that she dosnt love?! This is sick and disgusting!! YOUR ALL SICK!
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Well Jennifer, that time of the month, Eh? No chance of anyone raping you for the next seven days of so.
If a woman was where she belongs, tending to her family, a rape could not happen. But if it does happen, the RAPIST is required by Biblical law to pay the father of the woman fifty shekels (about $190.00) and offer to married the now spoiled woman. The woman can refuse and be a harlot for ever, producing bastard children. Even though she is just a woman, she does have free will.
Now a good father does not want bastardized grandchildren he and neither see or ever speak to, so he will ensure a proper marriage takes place. It is the Christian thing to do.
Remember, we Love you.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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