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Finally A Book Praising Big Corporations -
05-22-2019, 02:50 AM
One can hardy turn on the TV these days without some talking head screaming about the "evil" large corporations. Praise God a new book is out explaining why we need these corporations to take care of us.
General Motors and Ford employ hundreds of thousands and spurred huge parking lots at mega churches. Microsoft make it possible to find a Bible verse in seconds. At Hobby Lobby one can choose from 50 different crosses all on display. Chic-fil-a is a sandwich factory that has your food almost before you can find a table--and it donates to anti homer groups. Face Book allows you to put a new picture of you and your family entering church every week.
Shame on anyone who criticizes corporations.
https://www.city-journal.org/big-business-tyler-cowen
Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Re: Finally A Book Praising Big Corporations -
05-22-2019, 08:32 AM
It is a strange attitude indeed brother Mayor. For cannot the successful business be compared in some ways unto God?
The large companies give unto the people, almost freely, hamburgers (McDonald), an opportunity to publicize one success among friends (Bookface), and a choice of everything - shoe polish to 66” TVs - placed on a table before them (Wal-Mart). Even the TV companies themselves serve up nourishment for the spirit to a populace eager to hear God’s Word and see parables of earthly justice played out before them.
Yes, there may be a little in the claim that the laborers in their fields are not millionaires, but, let us be clear on this – if it were not for the big companies, these people would be basket cases reliant upon the charity of the Church.
The over-arching motto of these companies is “knock and the door shall be opened; ask and it shall be given (at a price that reflects a current market value, the expectations of shareholders and sufficient alms to prevent the worker from deserting the citadel.)” Is this not Jesus’s promise made real by those who cannot perform miracles?
The Bible, and hence God, is heavy on being poor – the poor go to heaven, the poor are worthy of our charity, the poor are noticed individually by God, the poor receive miracles, and the poor are always with us, etc., etc. – and yet what of the rich? Are they not the selfless ones who sacrifice their hopes of Salvation (rich man… heaven… Eye of a needle, etc.) to provide sustenance to their brothers? And let us not forget that the rich are hard-working, honest, and charitable and yet you still see them at church, at prayer sessions, and praising God despite their chances of seeing Jesus are about nil.
“One cannot have slaves, if one cannot afford slaves/servants/employees” is an obvious truth. God made those whose duty it is to serve Him. And His plan is perfect for the rich hire the poor, whose duty it is to serve respectively God and them: Both God and the rich deserve a basic and inalienable respect simply because they are either God or rich. How many rich people have you seen sweeping the roads, driving the buses, collecting garbage? How many people sweeping the roads, driving the buses, collecting garbage, etc., do you respect or feel the need to respect? … I think your answer makes my point.
Let us too recall that each one of those CEOs was at one time without money, without the ability to walk, talk or feed themselves – they know the shame of having to be dependent upon other able folk – yes, they too were babies and children and so completely understand what it is like to be poor.
I recommend this book wholeheartedly. It needed to be written not least because it demonstrates that God has made rich people to serve the poor as part of His Plan - In the words of that hymn, "He has made the high and lowly and ordered their estate." The rich are the high whose reward is on earth and not the eternal paradise that awaits the poor upon death.
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Re: Finally A Book Praising Big Corporations -
05-22-2019, 02:23 PM
Beautiful thoughts, Pastor Bathfire. I liked especially your reference to McDonalds.
If one thinks about the Loaves and Fishes story in economic terms it would be like this. Jesus blessed a small basket of loaves and fishes and provided food for thousands. We could say he provided free food.
But that is not correct. Someone had to pay for those loaves and fishes, or, have to spend resources like their time to produce them and bring them to the hill side.
What Jesus did was to lower the cost of that food so everyone could eat. That is what McDonalds does. By applying corporate know how the corporation mass produces food affordable to even the poor.
God bless our large corporations.
Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Re: Finally A Book Praising Big Corporations -
05-22-2019, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold
Beautiful thoughts, Pastor Bathfire. I liked especially your reference to McDonalds. . . God bless our large corporations.
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Hasn't the Supreme Court already designated corporations as persons? Doesn't God offer blessings to even the littlest child (especially the unborn)? Of course, God blesses corporations with the same largess that is His Great nature.
His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.
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Re: Finally A Book Praising Big Corporations -
05-23-2019, 04:43 PM
Sometimes we are told how large corporations as McDonald's throw away enough food to feed all the poor in the US.
McDonald's want to ensure the quality of the food they make, so if the food is pre-cooked for more than a certain time (I believe is five or six hours) they throw it away.
That food is not given to anyone, for several reasons:
1) That food is not free. You have paid it. When they give you your food, the price includes a fraction of the discarded food. So if they are giving it away, they are actually stealing from you to give it to the poor. That, sir, is called Communism
2) Do you really, beloved libtard, want to feed the poor with garbage?
3) Ok, so instead of throwing it to the garbage bin, they could save it and then gave it to the poor. This leads to the next question. Why I, a hard working True Christian, blessed by God with money, have to pay while those not so blessed by God have food for free? That is, again, Communism
4) McDonald's is attacked by the libtards for not having healthy food. And, at the same time, for wasting food. You cannot having both ways. You cannot say "that food is not healthy enough for me, but feed those saturated fats to those poor nigroes" That is racist, you democrat.
5) If they give food away for free, people are not going to need to work for it. Are we going to allow a generation of lazy poor people to keep us away from making America Great? Come on!
TL;DR: Do not criticize big corporations, thank them for doing what they do.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.
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Re: Finally A Book Praising Big Corporations -
04-01-2020, 04:14 AM
Your post reminded me of the message in Thessalonians describing two distinct groups. Those who work and those who do not. Anticipating the heathen response of, “Oh, Paul was simply referring to those who ‘work’ to build a Christian community,” brings us to the point where even by their own degraded standard the same principle would apply. A heathen working to build a heathen community or a communist working to construct commie dystopia (which so far is all they've managed to achieve) has the same requirements.
II Thessalonians 3:6-11 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread. As we have seen it doesn't matter which community is involved. People who do not work should eat their own bread. And didn't Paul get it exactly right? All the welfare crazies poking their noses into other people's business, marching up and down wailing and screeching. If a successful business discards out-of-date bread it's still their bread. No-one else is entitled to it but say they were; then everyone could just stand around injecting heroin or drinking kerosene until the food was thrown out and always get it for free while no-one ever bought anything. The legal expression is discarded property.
Imagine the heroin crazy. Wobbling along looking for something to steal. A cop car pulls up: “Oi, grebo!” the cop says, “..come over here, turn out your pockets..” gets out the vehicle. The grebo runs off. Eager to ditch the stuff and failing to see the brick wall CRACK!! the head hits the wall RATTLE!! into the garbage cans BOING!! springs out because they're full of snakes – actually the snakes aren't real and the cop expected something like that so is ready with the taser dDZZZZZZTt!! and although the headbutting attempt was a failure the contraband was successfully discarded.
Does the discarded property still belong to the wretch who threw it away? Will the cop say, “Oh dear, this is discarded property and therefore no-one owns it so the grebo is free to go..” or will there be further discussion? Because the same principle applies to bread as it does to heroin. Just because you discard something does not mean it ceases to be yours.
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Re: Finally A Book Praising Big Corporations -
04-01-2020, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold
One can hardy turn on the TV these days without some talking head screaming about the "evil" large corporations.
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Those screaming Bernie voters need to get a bath and get a job, at a big corporation.
Freedom means voting for Donald Trump!
To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
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Re: Finally A Book Praising Big Corporations -
04-01-2020, 09:47 PM
If the poors are given food, does that mean the rest of us will have our money refunded for all the food we bought in the past? LIEberals don't think past their bleeding hearts.
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Re: Finally A Book Praising Big Corporations -
04-02-2020, 06:50 AM
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If the poors are given food, does that mean the rest of us will have our money refunded for all the food we bought in the past? LIEberals don't think past their bleeding hearts.
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Do you know if mormons have any tendencies in this respect? Apparently they do have corporations but I'm not sure if they feed people. I'm enjoying some cheese and wine at the moment. The cheese is quite good I think I'll have some more. There's a couple of wines, one ("crimson cabernet") I'd expected to be fruity, like an Israeli red (which it is) but it's also fizzy. The other is a robust Bordeaux style – but the cheese's run out. Both supplied by large corporations offering employment to many. Some people rejected that opportunity but still expect "the higher ups" to solve their problems. The ones they got rid of. Obviously they need to move. I wouldn't live on a flood plain in the first place or build a house on shifting sands. But if I had, after ONE STORM Matthew 7:27 And the rain descended and the floods came and the winds blew and beat upon that house and it fell and great was the fall of it. I'd relocate. No higher ups required. Others would just sit in the puddle. There are no puddles in big corporations.
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