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What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
05-25-2022, 01:47 PM
Like me, I'm sure y'all are getting sick and tired of endless thoughts and prayers demanded by politicians when yet another gunman rampages through a school, or a mall, or a Church, movie theater, restaurant, park, concert, office, hospital, supermarket, public transport, or God-forbid a BLM protest.
I've got to confess, the sight of slain children, dismembered body parts and organs spilling out onto blood-stained sidewalks is GETTING TIRESOME. Liberal propaganda at its worst.
So what's there to do? Well, sometimes the simplest solution is the most obvious one: don't go to those places, they're dangerous. Move somewhere they don't have these temptations for gunmen - North Dakota, for instance. Stay home. Call security if anyone breaches the perimeter cordon, keep triggers at the ready.
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
05-25-2022, 02:16 PM
Yes, Dr., we are a country that has become careless. We need more guns and people trained to shoot them. We need only home schooling. When churches like LBC gather we need more armed security.
These shooters are small in number and with a strong Republican Administration we can defeat them.
Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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05-25-2022, 03:31 PM
Mr. Mayor, the sacrifice of all those young lives would mean nothing if we throw it all away by submitting to gun control. Keep their memories alive
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05-25-2022, 04:57 PM
These children died to preserve gun rights. We cannot let them die in vain.
I've been concerned about the lack of thoughts and prayers this time. It's as if thoughts and prayers is worn out and not working. Thoughts and prayers have prevented any number of these shootings. And we need celebrity preachers like Franklin Graham explaining God is here to help those in grief get through this. Certainly we don't need some nit wit atheist saying "God let this happen. Pox on your God."
Perhaps the time has come to award each fallen child with a medal recognizing the sacrifice made to preserve gun rights. I'm open to suggestions for a name of such a medal.
Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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05-25-2022, 08:30 PM
When thoughts and prayers go quiet, it's time to roll out the good guy with a gun. Although certainly this is not the time to politicize tragedy.
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These children died to preserve gun rights. We cannot let them die in vain.
Perhaps the time has come to award each fallen child with a medal recognizing the sacrifice made to preserve gun rights. I'm open to suggestions for a name of such a medal.
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That's a beautiful thought. Medals, hmm. Technically they should be participation trophies unless the kid intended to be a martyr. We can give them the benefit of the doubt but technically, they should not receive awards if did not carry weapons or demand gun rights.
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
05-25-2022, 09:29 PM
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Perhaps the time has come to award each fallen child with a medal recognizing the sacrifice made to preserve gun rights. I'm open to suggestions for a name of such a medal.
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That's a wonderful idea!
I think this is like covid or the speed limit, etc. We have to strike the right balance of freedom vs. safety. Should we allow people to drive 80 miles an hour or 60? Should we have masks or not?
As a nation, we've decided to prioritize gun ownership over child lives. It seems like a worthwhile trade off to me. Most children are kind of annoying and will grow up on welfare anyway. Guns on the other hand are cool.
That being said, it is unfortunate for the children & families of the children who happen to be shot and killed, so they could have some sort of award recognizing their patriotism and sacrifice in the name of freedom.
If I am ever shot and killed by a mass shooter, I want to go on the record and say that I don't want my death to be used to justify gun control.
Maybe we ought to have a pledge similar to signing up to be an organ donor when people apply for a driver's license. A little box to check saying "In the event of my or my children's untimely death at the hands of a shooter, I want there to be no gun control enacted on my behalf".
Maybe we can even go a step further and add it to the pledge of allegiance like we did with "Under God". Such as "I pledge allegiance, to the flag & constitution, including gun rights, of the United States of America" so children would be consenting too.
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
05-25-2022, 10:41 PM
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As a nation, we've decided to prioritize gun ownership over child lives. It seems like a worthwhile trade off to me. Most children are kind of annoying and will grow up on welfare anyway. Guns on the other hand are cool.
Maybe we can even go a step further and add it to the pledge of allegiance like we did with "Under God". Such as "I pledge allegiance, to the flag & constitution, including gun rights, of the United States of America" so children would be consenting too.
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Our thinking is similar, Prayer. I think we want to avoid that old military term, "collateral damage." It's true, the dead children are the collateral damage we have to pay to own guns and remain free, it seems so much more appealing to survivors to call the dead "heroes." That's why I'm leaning towards awards and medals.
Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
05-28-2022, 07:54 PM
We may be over-thinking this. After some prayer on the matter, I feel in my innermost soul that our dear Mayor summed up the solution here:
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We need only home schooling.
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My children are home-schooled and as a result none of them has ever been shot - or stabbed, for that matter - at school. This is because all the boys know that they and their brothers (and, I suppose, their sister - not that Hannah would ever seriously consider attacking anyone) would be in big trouble if their father learned of such substandard behavior.
People who send their children for schooling outside the home reap what they sow.
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
05-28-2022, 12:26 PM
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What will it take to end mass shootings in America?
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As mentioned before, more guns! We need to arm the teachers and the children so they can defend themselves. No child should have to go to school without a loaded gun.
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
05-28-2022, 02:36 PM
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As mentioned before, more guns! We need to arm the teachers and the children so they can defend themselves. No child should have to go to school without a loaded gun.
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One has to admit Texas is on the right track in its efforts to protect students from mass gunmen. Texas has armed guards in schools.
In this case, there were armed guards but they stayed outside the building for an hour. The entered only when more police arrived with better equipment, a shield the officers could hold in front of them while they entered the building. It took an hour for the better equipment to arrive.
The solution here is obvious. First, have children armed in all rooms at all times. Second, have on site in every school armed guards plus shields that can be carried in front of the defending officers. These reforms are needed immediately.
It's all about the odds present at any moment. Apparently, when the shooting began it was four security officers against one shooter. The police calculated this was too risky and waited until the odds were better. Armed kids in the classrooms would have ended it immediately.
Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
05-28-2022, 03:33 PM
Now that we have had a few days to calm down from all this (and before the next incident riles everyone up again), maybe this is the time to ask alternative questions.
Do we really want to end mass shootings in America? What if the reason that they keep happening is that God wants them to keep happening? God is, after all, All Powerful. After every one of these news events some of our most faithful politicians call for and offer up their thoughts and prayers. And yet, the shootings continue. If Our Lord and Savior chooses to give us a hard "No" in response to so many fervent Christian prayers maybe we need to change our prayers.
I, for one, do not wish to stand in opposition to Jesus. If there is something that He keeps denying us no matter how many times we ask, then maybe it is time to stop asking. Instead, we need to repent from our selfish prayers and ask Jesus what He wants.
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
05-28-2022, 07:53 PM
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Now that we have had a few days to calm down from all this (and before the next incident riles everyone up again), maybe this is the time to ask alternative questions.
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Thank you for your cool head, Sister. The hysteria around this event has been unseemly.
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If Our Lord and Savior chooses to give us a hard "No" in response to so many fervent Christian prayers maybe we need to change our prayers.
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Yes, some different ideas are called for. If we look rationally then we can see the problem is socially awkward 18 year old incels (nerds) with unlimited access to weaponry. We need to track them and be ready to deploy overly muscled meat heads in uniforms (jocks) with unlimited access to weaponry. There also needs to be a educational component in parallel: ner ner, yo momma, sux 2 be u, etc.
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
05-29-2022, 11:57 AM
"All Guns to be Armed with Guns"
Title of an article I saw years ago. Believe it was the Rochdale Herald. Imagine if every gun had its own gun. If the gun feels it's going to be used in an inappropriate manner it could put a stop to it.
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
05-29-2022, 02:45 PM
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"All Guns to be Armed with Guns"
Title of an article I saw years ago. Believe it was the Rochdale Herald. Imagine if every gun had its own gun. If the gun feels it's going to be used in an inappropriate manner it could put a stop to it.
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It all comes down to practical ideas. Home schooled children are in a home that has loaded weapons. Crazy persons will not go in there. A school where every kindergartener has a loaded weapon will handle an invader just fine.
Our problem is liberals. They do not want to solve this even when a solution in right before our eyes.
Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
05-29-2022, 03:46 PM
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Our problem is liberals. They do not want to solve this even when a solution in right before our eyes.
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We can convince them by highlighting the numerous examples of good guys with guns taking down bad guys spraying bullets into crowded movie theaters and whatnot. So there's a little, what's the word, collateral damage, if you choose to focus on the negative. The point is, stuff happens. You can't ban stuff!?
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
05-29-2022, 05:03 PM
Camera activated machine guns in the ceilings of all schools and public buildings is the solution.
1.Camera sees lunatic atheist, locks onto him, and liquidates him.
2. Three students to be trained and designated as "body removers".
3. Our children's education can continue as normal.
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
05-29-2022, 05:33 PM
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Camera activated machine guns in the ceilings of all schools and public buildings is the solution.
1.Camera sees lunatic atheist, locks onto him, and liquidates him.
2. Three students to be trained and designated as "body removers".
3. Our children's education can continue as normal.
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Brother Bathfire, that seems a good start for taking this problem seriously. Another idea is Indiana Jones-style booby traps, poison arrows, rotating blades, set at about 4ft height. Kids are less than 4ft so they survive but woe betide you are an 18 year old 6ft tall shooter. Instant death.
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
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Now that we have had a few days to calm down from all this (and bIf Our Lord and Savior chooses to give us a hard "No" in response to so many fervent Christian prayers maybe we need to change our prayers.
I, for one, do not wish to stand in opposition to Jesus. If there is something that He keeps denying us no matter how many times we ask, then maybe it is time to stop asking. Instead, we need to repent from our selfish prayers and ask Jesus what He wants.
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Others mentioned perhaps there was a good reason for mass shootings in America to continue and this might be it:
https://www.oswaldcompanies.com/medi...the%20location
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Why Active Shooter Coverage is Needed Now More Than Ever
The standard insurance policy for active assailant events is designed to cover a business when a person is actively engaged in killing or attempting to harm someone, extending to those 650 feet from the location. In the event of a hostage event, the coverage is triggered when an assailant has a weapon and holds one person for more than one hour.
But Oswald Companies has developed enhanced coverage that allows business owners and managers to respond quickly and thoughtfully to any incidents, so they can focus on the duty of care they feel toward students, employees and the public. The Oswald policy is triggered by any active assailant event, using any weapon, and includes coverage for those injured up to 1,000 feet away. An example of the need for extended coverage was the Mandalay Bay shooting In Las Vegas, when the assailant was roughly goo feet away from those Injured or killed.
For coverage purposes, active assailant includes vehicles, explosive devices or any Instrument used to cause harm, maim or kill others. Unlike other policies of this kind, no motive is required for coverage to begin with an enhanced policy.
In the event of a hostage situation, the enhanced coverage kicks in if one person is held for one hour. It will also cover hoax incidents or If the weapon involved turns out not to be a real threat.
This enhanced policy covers both property damage and business interruption, including denial of access to the location and subsequent event cancellations. The policy also offers ancillary support, with coverage of medical costs and death benefits for up to 24 months, including victim rehabilitation and repatriation, if necessary, of those deceased.
One of the most crucial benefits of this enhanced policy Is access to a crisis management team. With the policy, the insured are given a number to contact immediately after calling local emergency services. Then they will be put in touch with a specialized team, composed of former FBI agents and police officers, who will set up a crisis team at your headquarters or the location of the incident to offer support services.
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Much like how big pharma benefits from lack of national healthcare and rewards our lawmakers for their help in keeping healthcare capitalism alive ( https://www.statnews.com/feature/pre...full-data-set/ More than two-thirds of Congress cashed a pharma campaign check in 2020, new STAT analysis shows) with private healthcare agencies, this might be another area where the loving and guiding hand of the free market can intervene.
Think of all the jobs that would be lost if there were no mass shootings in America.
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Re: What will it take to end mass shootings in America?? -
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Others mentioned perhaps there was a good reason for mass shootings in America to continue and this might be it
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What a heartwarming story, Brother Warrior. A good insurance plan is needed to cover lost business in shooting areas. Capitalism steps forward to provide it. Businesses can buy this insurance and not worry about paying bills after the shooter is taken down. Praise Jesus.
This does not help end the shooting, but it will be easier to manage.
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07-06-2022, 05:31 PM
The Highland Park shooter wore women's clothing.
Clearly what we need to do now is to ban men from wearing women's clothing, ban drag queen story hours and ban men from having access to women's clothing stores, just like we did with the public bathrooms. The libs say we need to ban the guns, well what about going to the source of the problems instead?
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