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Default Re: List of foods now prohibited in True Christian™ households! - 06-10-2017, 08:46 PM

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Nope.
I support neither.
My choice, is that I can easily boycott both Coke and Pepsi, as well as chocolate.
I could also boycott almost everything related to child labor, but I could help them more then if didn't. For example.
If I just lived in the woods hunting and farming, I could effectively boycott them all.
But people would think I'm insane.


If I used the products of theirs that I COULDN'T(I'm not going to eat Hershey's chocolate now. Nor Nestle. Mark my word.) boycott, then I could still influence people and hopefully one day find a way to help them.
I see. So on your "what to boycott list" the priorities are not based on the gravity of the offense, but on what is easy to boycott. That is a very practical approach to life you have there!

Maybe to make you boycott even easier, you cold alternate days/weeks when you boycott certain items. So one day you can boycott Coca-Cola by not buying Sprite nor Simply Orange juice (or any other of their products), and then the next day you could boycott Nestle by not buying Kit Kat bars or Haagen-Dazs ice cream (or any other of their billion brands), and then the same for Hershey and Pepsi brands. This would make your life even easier, because eliminating all four of the brands at once would probably eliminate most of your daily food, and we wouldn't want that to happen, would we?

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I see. So on your "what to boycott list" the priorities are not based on the gravity of the offense, but on what is easy to boycott. That is a very practical approach to life you have there!

Maybe to make you boycott even easier, you cold alternate days/weeks when you boycott certain items. So one day you can boycott Coca-Cola by not buying Sprite nor Simply Orange juice (or any other of their products), and then the next day you could boycott Nestle by not buying Kit Kat bars or Hoogen-Dazs ice cream (or any other of their billion brands), and then the same for Hershey and Pepsi brands. This would make your life even easier, because eliminating all four of the brands at once would probably eliminate most of your daily food, and we wouldn't want that to happen, would we?
Best get a better idea of what my daily food is then.
And you guys still boycott things, but not everything.
You boycott certain things that are easy to boycott, but not the hard things.
The idea, is that I'm not doing nothing. And what I consider "Hard" is what I would literally have to separate myself from society to boycott.
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If I just lived in the woods hunting and farming, I could effectively boycott them all.
But people would think I'm insane.
Helper, are you being sarcastic? You might fit in around here after all. I'm always happy to swing at such an easy, friendly pitch.

I'm sure that when Christ asks to be good people that love each other, He doesn't mean if it's hard, or if it would mean being seen as weird. Does He?

Luke 6:22
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Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
But, wouldn't that be too hard? Can't we just take the parts of the Bible that we like and throw away the rest? Won't God forgive us that?

James 2:10
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For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
But but but! That's ridiculous. Nobody can live that way. Well, virtually nobody. Surely God loves us all more than that?

Revelation 7:4
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144k? Out of all of those Christians?

Luke 13:24:
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Strive to enter at the strait gate, helper. If that means you live in the woods, if that means people consider you mad, so be it. Follow the whole of the Law or follow none of it.
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Best get a better idea of what my daily food is then.
And you guys still boycott things, but not everything.
You boycott certain things that are easy to boycott, but not the hard things.
My dear, please don't make any assumptions about which brands I buy and which I don't, and for what reasons, and whether any of my reasons for not buying a certain brand can be classified as a boycott.
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Default Re: List of foods now prohibited in True Christian™ households! - 06-10-2017, 11:42 PM

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My dear, please don't make any assumptions about which brands I buy and which I don't, and for what reasons, and whether any of my reasons for not buying a certain brand can be classified as a boycott.
I made no such assumptions.
What I did say was truth though. At least by your words.


In other threads you supported the boycotting(aka, not using because you disagree wit hit) of many different things from table saws to video games.
Some of the video games you boycotted because it can be used to make sexual images.
Even if you could much more easily make sexual images online rather then in the game.
Now why do you boycott the game and not the internet?
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Even if you could much more easily make sexual images online rather then in the game.
Now why do you boycott the game and not the internet?
For the same reason why I don't boycott kitchen knives, even though they can be used to harm people. Nevertheless, the good uses of knives seem to outnumber the bad ones.

On the other hand, there are plenty of reasons given why not to play video games - and I fail to see any benefits. Video games are violent, it's all about kill, kill, kill, and while there's plenty of justified killing in the Holy Bible, the games seem to be more about the thrill of killing rather than Godly reasons to do so. Moreover, they make people dumber, as they take away time which could have been spent learning something useful. Also, they increase obesity and diseases related to sedentary lifestyle - the same time could have been used to remove weeds from the garden (as I have been doing for the past hour; the darned things just don't stop creeping up!).

Getting back to boycotting foodstuff. Personally, I would only boycott companies which clearly go against the Will of God.

Your complain against Coca Cola and Pepsi was their supposed support for Planned Parenthood (supposed because I did not fact-check this, and since you probably haven't either, this could be real news or fake news). Now, sugary drinks in general are banned in my household because I dislike their taste, but let's check with the Holy Bible, whether a full-fledged boycott is in order - what does it say about institutions such as Planned Parenthood.

What does Planned Parenthood do? It provides health care to people who otherwise couldn't afford any. That means more poor people on the streets. While you could say that seeking health care goes against God's Will:

James 5:14-16
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

OK, you seem to be onto something there. God does not want people seek health care (and our Godly Republicans are fulfilling His will right now with their new bill - no more free health care for the poor, thank you Jesus!). Every sickness is, after all, a gift from God. We shouldn't try to get rid of it using doctors; we should just pray to God to remove it.

Now, another thing which Planned Parenthood does is abortions. What does the Bible say about abortions? While the word itself does not appear in the Bible, there are some situations which actually describe abortions.

Let's have look at Hosea chapter 13. In this chapter, God is unhappy about people not caring enough for Him; His Holy Wrath is building up, and when He extends His punishing hand, even women, children, and fetuses will suffer:

Hosea 13:15-16
15 Though he be fruitful among his brethren, an east wind shall come, the wind of the Lord shall come up from the wilderness, and his spring shall become dry, and his fountain shall be dried up: he shall spoil the treasure of all pleasant vessels.
16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

As you can see, ripping up women with fetuses still in their bellies can be good. Occasionally, this is what makes God happy, as it satisfies His Anger. Therefore, abortions can be good. Therefore, at least part of what Planned Parenthood does is OK in the eyes of God. He's not happy about people seeking doctors, but He's perfectly OK with heathens dying - and that certainly includes heathen fetuses.

Now, let's move on to the subject I introduced, slavery. The reason why I touched on it is because you seemed to care about American fetuses more than about suffering of people elsewhere; now I realize my mistake, it was all about easiness, not empathy.

According to the Bible, slavery is not an abomination, but rather a part of a natural social order. In fact, God gives detailed provisions on how to purchase your slaves:

Leviticus 25:44-46
44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.

Also, God gives instructions on how to sell your daughters into slavery:

Exodus 21:7-8
7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.

As you can see, God is very thoughtful and does not want to be the girl to be sold second time - only once.

So no, I don't lose any sleep at night just because I buy a lot of stuff made by slave labor. If God didn't want slavery, He would have ended it long time ago, and certainly would not include provisions about it in the Holy Bible.
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I relinquish my argument and let yours stands.Needless to say, I still disagree.
But the reason, is that we interpret the bible different ways.
I interpret it as I pray and read the bible.
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But the reason, is that we interpret the bible different ways.
I interpret it as I pray and read the bible.
Why would you want to interpret something that is already written in plain English?

Or by "interpret" you mean "twist it so it means what I want it to mean instead of what it really says"?

I do recommend that you read that sermon about abortions. And also this one on sanctity of life. There's no interpretation there, Pastors Levi and Ezekiel just read what is written.
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Why would you want to interpret something that is already written in plain English?

Or by "interpret" you mean "twist it so it means what I want it to mean instead of what it really says"?

I do recommend that you read that sermon about abortions. And also this one on sanctity of life. There's no interpretation there, Pastors Levi and Ezekiel just read what is written.
They also missed the part about "Thou shall not murder"
If God knew us before we were even formed in the womb, why do you think he is fine with us being murdered before we get a chance to live?
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They also missed the part about "Thou shall not murder"
If God knew us before we were even formed in the womb, why do you think he is fine with us being murdered before we get a chance to live?
The short answer is, that He hates some when they are still in the womb:

Romans 9:10-13
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.


That's because some people are wicked even in the womb:

Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

Now, the murder thing. It is true that God forbids murder (Exodus 20:13) - which we can define as "unjustified killing." A murder - an unjustified killing - is to be punished with the capital penalty, or justified killing:

Exodus 21:12
He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.

So, as long as killing is justified, it is OK.

Here are some examples of justified killings from the Bible:

Deuteronomy 20:16-18
16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:
18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God.

1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
Psalm 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

That last verse makes you wonder, what sound is made by baby brains splashed into the stones? Apparently God enjoys it.

Anyway, I hope that these verses convince you that there are cases when killing of babies (even the unborn, Hosea 13:16) is justified in the eyes of God, and therefore not murder.
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Anyway, I hope that these verses convince you that there are cases when killing of babies (even the unborn, Hosea 13:16) is justified in the eyes of God, and therefore not murder.
Perhaps.
But God also ordered the killing of entire towns.
Does that mean that the killing of any random town without orders from God is justified?
Of course not.
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Perhaps.
But God also ordered the killing of entire towns.
Does that mean that the killing of any random town without orders from God is justified?
Of course not.
Indeed. Genocide is justified killing only when it is God's Will. I'm glad we agree on this.
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They also missed the part about "Thou shall not murder"
If God knew us before we were even formed in the womb, why do you think he is fine with us being murdered before we get a chance to live?
Dear person,

You're probably referring to the verse(s) that in its more correct form is written as follows:
Exodus 20:13
Thou shalt not kill.

Deuteronomy 5:17
Thou shalt not kill.


What a difficult passage,as allegedly Christian authorities have for millennia struggled to contain both this verse and their practices of capital punishment, war, and wanton disregard for famines, poverty, and related issues while maintaining a facade of following Jesus. Many of them have taken the same easy way out that you also seem to prefer: to distinguish "murder" from all taking of life. In the process, they've failed to look at other parts of the Bible. That was mostly taken care of in the previous posts by our Sister Basilissa. May Jesus Praise her for her unrelenting work among the sinner population.

Now let us look these two identical verses. In the Hebrew version they are both as follows:
  • לֹא תִּרְצָח
Qal imperative with the archaic negation using לֹא. The triconsonant root is רצח‎, a difficult one, a root with diverse meaning including not only killing and murder but also other kinds of wanton destruction. Which one to take. One possible guide is to listen to those who lived during an era, when Hebrew was - if not a vernacular - at least a language with an active living legacy reaching back to the Tower of Babel (Genesis 11:9) and beyond to Creation (Genesis 1:1). I am, of course, referring to the LXX, where it is stated as follows:
  • οὐ φονεύσεις from the verb φονεύω
Not much help here, both "murder" and "killing" are appropriate translations according to linguist experts. So, what does it mean? It means that when you just utter this verse in relation to your opinion (we'll discuss abortion in a minute), it is inadequate in the complexities of the Christian society unless you consider also other passages in the Bible.

Also within the secular swarm, many people have to balance between "greater and lesser evils" and this has led them into confusion when it comes to abortion. Many alleged Christians claim that saving a woman's life or dignity (in case of rape, which however is solved in Deuteronomy 22:29) takes precedence and the lesser evil of abortion can be performed.

These people seem to think that Jesus would be so stupid that He would not be able to assess this beforehand. He is not and He has. Abortion is evil but God has shown us that there are even greater evils when this lesser evil becomes acceptable.

Property rights, specifically, the rights of a husband.

Numbers 5:11-27
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man's wife go aside, and commit a trespass against him, And a man lie with her carnally, and it be hid from the eyes of her husband, and be kept close, and she be defiled, and there be no witness against her, neither she be taken with the manner; And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled: Then shall the man bring his wife unto the priest, and he shall bring her offering for her, the tenth part of an ephah of barley meal; he shall pour no oil upon it, nor put frankincense thereon; for it is an offering of jealousy, an offering of memorial, bringing iniquity to remembrance. And the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the LORD: And the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel; and of the dust that is in the floor of the tabernacle the priest shall take, and put it into the water: And the priest shall set the woman before the LORD, and uncover the woman's head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which is the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse: And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse: But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband: Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell; And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. And the priest shall write these curses in a book, and he shall blot them out with the bitter water: And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water that causeth the curse: and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter. Then the priest shall take the jealousy offering out of the woman's hand, and shall wave the offering before the LORD, and offer it upon the altar: And the priest shall take an handful of the offering, even the memorial thereof, and burn it upon the altar, and afterward shall cause the woman to drink the water. And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people.

A long passage, too much for most false Christians to read let alone understand. Basically. If a woman is suspected of adultery, the husband has the right to investigate the matter, to know if the fetus is his or a bastard. This is done by making the woman drink bitter water. If she is guilty, the water will do its wonders, terminate the pregnancy and cause infertility. If she is not guilty, everything will process business as usual. As, as the Biblical text tells us, the LORD does this ("the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot"). Because of this, no human agency is responsible for this sin of killing the child in its fetal state. God takes the responsibility, exactly as He does when he orders genocides (as in 1 Samuel 15:3 as helpfully cited by Sister Basilissa, Bless her!). THERE IS NO SIN IN THIS! לֹא תִּרְצָח does not apply!



This is the time when the greater evil (trespassing the rights of the husband) has to be avoided by causing a lesser evil (termination of an adulterous pregnancy). If we take some arbitary number and say that the greater evil has, for example, 50 points of badness and abortion 30 points, then the world is saved 20 points of pure evil. And with no human sin committed. The LORD does it! This is how the Bible supports its own message. Thou shalt not kill/murder but sometimes killing is the lesser evil. Its the same with genocides that God ordered and it will be the same when Jesus in the very near future first decimates...

Revelation 9:18
By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.


...and then personally kills sinner in the billions.

Revelation 19:21
And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.


Of course, as the designer of the World and the Law, He is above them. Let us also look at the final verse in my post in its Greek form, as the past tense in a sentence that describes future events is most interesting, isn't it?

καὶ οἱ λοιποὶ ἀπεκτάνθησαν ἐν τῇ ῥομφαίᾳ τοῦ καθημένου ἐπὶ τοῦ ἵππου τῇ ἐξελθούσῃ ἐκ τοῦ στόματος αὐτοῦ, καὶ πάντα τὰ ὄρνεα ἐχορτάσθησαν ἐκ τῶν σαρκῶν αὐτῶν.

ἀπεκτάνθησαν: Aorist indicative passive 3rd person plural. Aorist, a tense we lack in American, describes past (but not only past) events in a straightforward manner. In this case, in indicative, that it simply happened. It is our (near) future but for Jesus it already happened. It is history. It will take place exactly as told. He will kill and is killing and has killed the sinners. No human sin committed in this killing. No wonder the translations of false Christians are messed up with the ambiguities of Greek and Hebrew verbs: We're so lucky that Jesus eventually gave us the KJV with clear instructions!

It's the same with abortions. Countless of fetuses experience agonizing spontaneous abortions every single day without human intervention. Jesus feels that it is best not to prevent them. He knows best. Countless people die because of natural disasters but even more survive them and do not die. Both are decided by Jesus. He did them and is doing them and will be doing them in the timeless existence of His Divinity that we'll share very soon (1 Thessalonians 4:17).


Yours in Christ,

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Uh hu......
And say, what happens if it's the husbands baby and they get an abortion? Does God take the responsibility?


Also, the old testament also ordered you to stone adulterers.
Yet Jesus wouldn't.
Jesus repeatedly changed the old law's punishments.
He kept the rules.
But he changed the results of breaking them.
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Numbers 5:11-27
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man's wife go aside, and commit a trespass against him, And a man lie with her carnally, and it be hid from the eyes of her husband, and be kept close, and she be defiled, and there be no witness against her, neither she be taken with the manner; And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled: Then shall the man bring his wife unto the priest, and he shall bring her offering for her, the tenth part of an ephah of barley meal; he shall pour no oil upon it, nor put frankincense thereon; for it is an offering of jealousy, an offering of memorial, bringing iniquity to remembrance. And the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the LORD: And the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel; and of the dust that is in the floor of the tabernacle the priest shall take, and put it into the water: And the priest shall set the woman before the LORD, and uncover the woman's head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which is the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse: And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse: But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband: Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell; And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. And the priest shall write these curses in a book, and he shall blot them out with the bitter water: And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water that causeth the curse: and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter. Then the priest shall take the jealousy offering out of the woman's hand, and shall wave the offering before the LORD, and offer it upon the altar: And the priest shall take an handful of the offering, even the memorial thereof, and burn it upon the altar, and afterward shall cause the woman to drink the water. And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people.

A long passage, too much for most false Christians to read let alone understand.
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Uh hu......
And say, what happens if it's the husbands baby and they get an abortion? Does God take the responsibility?

Also, the old testament also ordered you to stone adulterers.
Yet Jesus wouldn't.
Jesus repeatedly changed the old law's punishments.
He kept the rules.
But he changed the results of breaking them.
Thank you for your questions. The answers were available above in the passage I quoted. I am going to quote it once more highlighting the words that are relevant to answer your question.
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Numbers 5:11-27
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man's wife go aside, and commit a trespass against him, And a man lie with her carnally, and it be hid from the eyes of her husband, and be kept close, and she be defiled, and there be no witness against her, neither she be taken with the manner; And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled: Then shall the man bring his wife unto the priest, and he shall bring her offering for her, the tenth part of an ephah of barley meal; he shall pour no oil upon it, nor put frankincense thereon; for it is an offering of jealousy, an offering of memorial, bringing iniquity to remembrance. And the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the LORD: And the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel; and of the dust that is in the floor of the tabernacle the priest shall take, and put it into the water: And the priest shall set the woman before the LORD, and uncover the woman's head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which is the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse: And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse: But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband: Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell; And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. And the priest shall write these curses in a book, and he shall blot them out with the bitter water: And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water that causeth the curse: and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter. Then the priest shall take the jealousy offering out of the woman's hand, and shall wave the offering before the LORD, and offer it upon the altar: And the priest shall take an handful of the offering, even the memorial thereof, and burn it upon the altar, and afterward shall cause the woman to drink the water. And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people.

A long passage, too much for most false Christians to read let alone understand.
You could also have shown some initiative and read the whole chapter, as in the very next verse your questions will be answered.

Numbers 5:28
And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.

This is how God works and how we are unable to work. Only if the fetus has been conceived as a bastard, will our Lord God terminate the pregnancy. As for Jesus and adultery, no-one is stoning anyone here. The woman lives and only becomes infertile if she has trespassed. However, we must remember that Jesus took adultery much more seriously than the OT priests. For Him, the actual act of carnal relations was no worse than adultery of the mind!

Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

The acquittal of punishment in John 8:7 is, in fact, probationary.

John 8:11
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Please be also informed that the punishment described in Numbers is a punishment that is given by God, not by human hands.
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The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;
Similar to all righteous capital punishments, the human hands are just tools of Jesus. It is Jesus who makes the curse and, in this case, causes the rot of the woman's loins but only in case she is guilty. It is very elegant and righteous.

As I mentioned earlier, this is all peanuts compared to the End of Days when Jesus leads His armies to slay the sinner population. Also in that case He will be Merciful (Jonah 4:2) and not force His troops perform the killings. Eventually, He takes the justice into His own hands as I explained earlier (Revelation 19:21).

In the case of Numbers 5, there is no human agency that would "stone" the woman".

John 8:7
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

The one "casting the stone" (the punishment) is God ("The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;"). Is He, in your opinion, without sin, and thus eligible to perform the task?


Yours in Christ,

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Thank you for your questions. The answers were available above in the passage I quoted. I am going to quote it once more highlighting the words that are relevant to answer your question.
You could also have shown some initiative and read the whole chapter, as in the very next verse your questions will be answered.

Numbers 5:28
And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.

This is how God works and how we are unable to work. Only if the fetus has been conceived as a bastard, will our Lord God terminate the pregnancy. As for Jesus and adultery, no-one is stoning anyone here. The woman lives and only becomes infertile if she has trespassed. However, we must remember that Jesus took adultery much more seriously than the OT priests. For Him, the actual act of carnal relations was no worse than adultery of the mind!

Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

The acquittal of punishment in John 8:7 is, in fact, probationary.

John 8:11
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Please be also informed that the punishment described in Numbers is a punishment that is given by God, not by human hands.
Similar to all righteous capital punishments, the human hands are just tools of Jesus. It is Jesus who makes the curse and, in this case, causes the rot of the woman's loins but only in case she is guilty. It is very elegant and righteous.

As I mentioned earlier, this is all peanuts compared to the End of Days when Jesus leads His armies to slay the sinner population. Also in that case He will be Merciful (Jonah 4:2) and not force His troops perform the killings. Eventually, He takes the justice into His own hands as I explained earlier (Revelation 19:21).

In the case of Numbers 5, there is no human agency that would "stone" the woman".

John 8:7
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

The one "casting the stone" (the punishment) is God ("The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;"). Is He, in your opinion, without sin, and thus eligible to perform the task?


Yours in Christ,

Elmer
I could care less if you give her bitter water.


And again.
Planned parenthood, if you're unaware, does abortions for anyone who wants them.
Not just if they committed adultery.
Therefore, who takes the blame then?




God is eligible to do what ever he wants.
You on the other hand, are not.
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I could care less if you give her bitter water.

And again.
Planned parenthood, if you're unaware, does abortions for anyone who wants them.
Not just if they committed adultery.
Therefore, who takes the blame then?

God is eligible to do what ever he wants.
You on the other hand, are not.
Oh dear, you're moving the goalposts. None of us True Christians™ have ever expressed any sympathy towards Planned Parenthood. We only wished to explain to you that God has a very specific set of rules when it comes to termination of pregnancy. All based on the Bible. Not even one Chapter required.

What you've done is, in fact, the straw man fallacy. Instead of acknowledging your careless reading of the Bible and assessing our explanations you attack a position (Planned Parenthood) that was never the position of any True Christian™, nor ever mentioned by yours Truly™. Also, by referring to them and True Believers™ together, you're committing the fallacy of guilt by association. Abortion is hideous, as it sends unsaved babies into the Furnace (Matthew 13:42), but if God wants to perform it every now and then to prevent a greater evil, who are we to debate Him (Exodus 3:14 is the pivotal verse in this context).

These argumentative strategies were not unknown to God. He just has another name for these fallacies.

Exodus 20:16
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

However, I am most pleased that you now agree that Bitter Water is appropriate if a victim of property crimes (the husband) wishes to appeal to God's Justice. You're taking small steps towards Heaven! Still, I would care if a sin had been committed and the wife had violated the rights of her husband. It would mean a hard and tortuous path towards atonement. I don't really understand why you "could [not] care less". I was under the impression that you were here to learn and educate yourself but now I am afraid that you are here in an attempt to gain some kind of victory in debate.

2 Corinthians 12:20
For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults:


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Default Re: List of foods now prohibited in True Christian™ households! - 06-14-2017, 07:42 AM

WTF? Pardon my French, but some twit on here seems to have derailed this thread and turned it into a discussion of crime, punishment, abortion, genocide and adultery - definitely unappetizing when it's supposed to be dedicated to banning foods in True Christian™ households. I don't have time to read it all right now, but I intend to get to the bottom of it - and believe me there will be punishment.


So to get this back on track here, we need to talk about olives. Olives are mentioned numerous times in the Bible (KVV1611), and all the things produced from the olive trees. Things are made from olive wood in the Bible (KJV1611), and the oil made from olives is used for numerous purposes - including burning it in lamps. Jesus loves olives, and so do I.

Imagine my surprise the other day when I opened a jar of olives to discover someone had stuffed them with pimientos. Now I can't find anywhere in the Bible (KJV1611) where it instructs us to stuff one of God's creations with pimientos, so I can safely assume that Jesus doesn't approve. Moreover, I can't imagine anyone that can find the time to sit around all day stuffing pimientos into olives and putting them into jars - unless it was Martha Stewart passing time while she was in prison.

This pimiento stuffing is definitely a drain on the economy, if not being totally useless - and really, who in their right mind would consciously buy pimiento stuffed olives except some of the gluten-free hipsters in Portland.


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Imagine my surprise the other day when I opened a jar of olives to discover someone had stuffed them with pimientos. Now I can't find anywhere in the Bible (KJV1611) where it instructs us to stuff one of God's creations with pimientos, so I can safely assume that Jesus doesn't approve. Moreover, I can't imagine anyone that can find the time to sit around all day stuffing pimientos into olives and putting them into jars - unless it was Martha Stewart passing time while she was in prison.

This pimiento stuffing is definitely a drain on the economy, if not being totally useless - and really, who in their right mind would consciously buy pimiento stuffed olives except some of the gluten-free hipsters in Portland.
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My own suspicion is that sodomites hire illegals to stuff them, and take some sort of perverse delight in watching them still little red things deep into those... Well, you can only imagine what it looks like.


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