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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
03-03-2011, 09:28 AM
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I do not necessarily agree with your theory; however, assuming for a minute that you are correct in your assertions your math is still incorrect. In Psalms 90:4, the Bible states, "For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night." And 2 Peter 3:8 says, "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." Thus, a creation day is not a mere 24 hour period but rather a 1000 year period. Would not that information make the maximum distance for a star far greater than you have stated? And does that not mean that the Earth is also far older than you have stated?
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Hello, INRIJedi,
This is a very good point you bring up, however you will find when it comes to the Genesis creation account, the Hebrew word "yom" is used and it is clearly referring to a literal 24-hour day. Those two verses you mention show us that God exists outside of our time, but that does not mean the Genesis verses are related to that concept.
The word "day"/"yom" occurs 357 times outside of Genesis 1. The combination is used in four different ways, but each time it is used, it must mean 24-hour periods of time. If the combinations had been intended to mean long periods of time, both the texts and contexts then become meaningless. One example is Genesis 30:36: "And he (Laban) set three days journey betwixt himself and Jacob." Does that mean Laban traveled for three thousand years? Of course not!
God frequently issued commands that the people were to do or not to do certain things on a given day. This use occurs 162 times. A good example is Exodus 24:16: "And the glory of the Lord abode upon Mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days, and on the seventh day He called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud." These are the most typical uses of the word "day" with a number. Ezra 3:6 says, "From the first day of the seventh month they began to offer burnt offerings unto the Lord." A number may also be used with "day" to convey an ending point. An example is Leviticus 19:6: "It shall be eaten the same day ye offer it, and on the morrow: and if ought remain until the third day, it shall be burnt in the fire." It would appear, then, that whenever the Old Testament uses a number with the word "day," it means a 24-hour period of time without any demonstrable exception.
The point is, if you want to attribute day/yom as being of an era, it makes the rest of the Bible meaningless. We must understand the context. I hope this has explained things more clearly for you.
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
03-04-2011, 04:30 PM
The star Arcturus is reddish actually, though you'll probably say it's a ruby.
Two questions, out of curiousity:
1. What are the other planets?
2. Does the Scripture really demand this sort of conclusion? "lights in the heavens" could mean all sorts of things, as there are many things that reflect or produce light.
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
03-04-2011, 04:37 PM
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The star Arcturus is reddish actually, though you'll probably say it's a ruby.
Two questions, out of curiousity:
1. What are the other planets?
2. Does the Scripture really demand this sort of conclusion? "lights in the heavens" could mean all sorts of things, as there are many things that reflect or produce light.
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The Scripture demands a 6,000 year old Universe. The monkey worshipers claim a 13.75 billion year old Universe on the grounds of the speed of light being a constant and we can see thing 13.75 billion light years away. As the original post proves the Monkey Worshipers work from the close minded assumption that stars are just balls of hot gas.
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
03-04-2011, 07:06 PM
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Genesis1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
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Stars have been used for navigation and tracking of seasons since ancient times. The explorers who traversed the oceans and discovered the Americas relied on the stars.
The significance of the stars to navigation and seasons on Earth was not lost to our ancestors. The magi who came to worship Jesus when he was born did so because his birth was revealed to them in the stars. Herod was so concerned by what they told him that he ordered the killing of vast numbers of infants under two years, forcing Mary and Joseph to flee to Egypt. I was taught this in Sunday school as a child.
The way I interpret the above verse is that God realised full well that human beings would notice those bright points of light in the sky and interpret them as evidence of order in the universe he created. Much of the mechanics of God's universe were hidden from our ancestors. There are still many questions unanswered today.
The people who lived in ancient Sumeria and ancient Egypt had no idea whether the stars were made from coal or energetic plasma. The question was of no relevance to them, they had no means of finding out and it wouldn't have made any real difference to their lives one way or the other. People in the ancient world realised that there was order in the universe. The idea that some great intelligence created this order has emerged repeatedly in human civilisation since history has been recorded.
Whether the stars are made out of one thing or another is of no importance as far as the bible is concerned. The bible tells us that God knew full well what we would use the stars for on Earth and provided them for that purpose. What he chose to make them out of and how he chose to form them is his business, not ours. The bible clearly states that God is beyond our understanding. If we don't understand why God created something in a certain way, this is to be expected.
We know God created the stars, it doesn't really matter how he made them or what he made them out of, insofar as the bible is concerned. Don't worry whether God made the sun out of coal or gas. Understand that God made the universe and he knew what he was doing!
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
03-05-2011, 12:53 AM
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We know God created the stars, it doesn't really matter how he made them or what he made them out of, insofar as the bible is concerned. Don't worry whether God made the sun out of coal or gas. Understand that God made the universe and he knew what he was doing!
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
03-05-2011, 09:38 PM
Off course stars are not diamonds. Which century are you guys living in?
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
03-05-2011, 09:39 PM
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Off course stars are not diamonds. Which century are you guys living in?
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
03-05-2011, 09:44 PM
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
03-05-2011, 10:09 PM
Somethings I would like to point out: technically yes because of the heat it's not impossible that stars could be diamonds. But, diamonds only shine in the presence of light, and that is why scientists reached the conclusion that stars radiate their own light, and hence are not diamonds.
Blah, my explanation made no sense, but basically stars cannot be diamonds, because diamonds can't radiate light.
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
03-05-2011, 11:35 PM
Stars have to be quite small and close. If they were big and further away I would like to know how they could all rotate around the earth in just 24 hours?
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
03-06-2011, 01:38 AM
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Somethings I would like to point out: technically yes because of the heat it's not impossible that stars could be diamonds. But, diamonds only shine in the presence of light, and that is why scientists reached the conclusion that stars radiate their own light, and hence are not diamonds.
Blah, my explanation made no sense, but basically stars cannot be diamonds, because diamonds can't radiate light.
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Stars have to be quite small and close. If they were big and further away I would like to know how they could all rotate around the earth in just 24 hours?
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The sun is about 500 miles from the Earth surface. These 'stars' (diamonds actually) are only about 600 miles away.
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
03-06-2011, 07:50 PM
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Stars have to be quite small and close. If they were big and further away I would like to know how they could all rotate around the earth in just 24 hours?
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They don't.
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
03-07-2011, 08:34 PM
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They don't.
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Read Joshua 10:12. Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. [Is] not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
The Sun stood still just like the Earth does, so the heavens must rotate around the Earth! Just read the scripture, there is the proof.
If you seriously have been fooled into believing the Earth spins then for the Sun to have appeared to have stopped the Earth would have stopped. The seas would have flooded the land and everyone would have smashed into walls. Can you please show me the evidence of this happening??
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
04-22-2011, 04:00 PM
(Revelation 1:16) And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
Exactly! How could Jesus hold 7 stars unless they indeed are as small as they look?
Diamonds sounds right.
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
06-03-2011, 02:07 AM
Wow, what a forum of collective ignorance. The colors of the stars is dictated by the heat at which they burn, look at a fire, the darker the flame, the cooler it is, the more white-blue, the hotter the flame is. Yes, stars are massive, many are enormous compared to our relatively small sun, but they are very far away. look at a skyscraper, when you are right up close to it, its huge, but from ten miles away, the building is tiny. the same logic can be applied to these massive objects that are very far away. Also, moonlight is not a real thing, the moon does not produce light, it simply reflects light from the sun, the color is from the color of the moon's surface. The twinkling from the stars comes from the materials the light hits as it passes through the earth's atmosphere. And the sun isnt made of coal, it is made of hydrogen and helium, a coal fire cannot burn without oxygen, which isnt present in the vacuum of space. the sun is powered by nuclear fission which only requires huge amounts of heat and pressure. furthermore, a coal fire could not produce the amount of heat needed to reach our planet, which is 149,597,900 km from the sun.
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06-03-2011, 02:09 AM
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
06-03-2011, 02:24 AM
do you have a response or are you just going to pretend that my statement is trash?
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
06-03-2011, 02:34 AM
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Wow, what a forum of collective ignorance.
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Yes, stars are massive, many are enormous compared to our relatively small sun, but they are very far away.
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Lies. The Bible tells us the truth. Stars are small objects that can fall from the sky to the ground (Isa 34:4,Mt 24:29,Mk 13:24-25,Rev 6:13,Rev 12:4), and once they are on the ground, they can be extinguished by stamping upon them (Dan 8:10).
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And the sun isnt made of coal, it is made of hydrogen and helium, a coal fire cannot burn without oxygen, which isnt present in the vacuum of space. the sun is powered by nuclear fission which only requires huge amounts of heat and pressure. furthermore, a coal fire could not produce the amount of heat needed to reach our planet, which is 149,597,900 km from the sun.
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This topic has been beaten to death in another thread. In that thread we learned that the sun, earth, moon, and stars are all enclosed in a solid structure called a firmament, and thanks to Boyle's Law we all know that that gases expand to fill whatever container they are in, so the sun is not in an oxygenless vacuum. We also proved, through trigonometry, that the sun is 5494.8 km away, not 149,597,900 km.
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
06-03-2011, 04:36 AM
If stars are made of diamonds, what are galaxies made of?
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Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms -
06-03-2011, 04:39 AM
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If stars are made of diamonds, what are galaxies made of?
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