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Pumpkin pie Can white and black people marry? - 04-27-2019, 08:34 PM

Not according to the word of God.

Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? 2 Corinthians 6:14
I used to be married to a black women in 2017-2018. But the Lord convicted me of my deadly error. Before any uneducated "Christians" tell me remarriage was always sinful except if the spouse dies...



And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail Whosoever "putteth away" (630. apoluó) his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery. Luke 16:17-18


They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement (647. apostasion), AND to put her away (630. apoluó)? Matthew 19:7


Pharisees were “putting away” (630. apoluó) their wives for any cause WITHOUT giving them bills of divorcement (647. apostasies). Essentially, kicking them out and causing them too have to find someone to support them and fulfill their sexual needs. Without a final conclusion to the original marriage which was improperly handled by the husband, HE then causes her to commit technical adultery. The second husband should require to ask if she has been previously married and if so, present the certificate of divorce to make sure he is not marrying another man’s wife. Without one, she can’t move forward.What they should have been doing is abiding by both the words of Moses and Jesus which say the same exact thing. That ONLY for the case of sexual immorality can a husband DIVORCE his wife and then she can go remarry. Moses said this in Deuteronomy 24:1-4 and Jesus said this in Matthew 5:32 and 19:9. Unlceaness is sexual immorality and Fornication is the equivalent of the definition in the Greek.Matter of fact, God Himself gave a CERTIFICATE of DIVORCEMENT to Israel in Jeremiah 3:8. It is possible to put away WITHOUT giving the certificate of divorce thereby not completing the command. The Pharisees did this as well with there woman caught in adultery (Jn 8:1-11), they brought only the woman and not the man so they didn’t completely obey the command and were ashamed.Jeremiah 3:8 (KJV)And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, AND given her a BILL OF DIVORCE; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.Deuteronomy 24:1-2 (KJV)When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a BILL OF DIVORCEMENT, and give it in her hand, AND send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.Isaiah 50:1 (KJV)Thus saith the LORD, Where is the BILL OF YOUR MOTHER’S DIVORCEMENT whom I have put away? or which of my creditors is it to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away.Mark 10:4 (KJV)And they said, Moses suffered to write a BILL OF DIVORCEMENT, AND to put her away.Even in the Old Testement, the difference between “PUT AWAY” (7971. šal-laḥ) and giving a certificate of “DIVORCE” (3748. kə-rî-ṯuṯ) is obvious. Guess what God hates? Unjust PUTTING AWAY. - 7971. šal-laḥ: Send away- 3748. kə-rî-ṯuṯ: Divorce with certificateMalachi 2:16 (KJV)For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth PUTTING AWAY (7971. šal-laḥ,): for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.Deuteronomy 24:1-2 (KJV)When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a BILL OF DIVORCEMENT (3748. kə-rî-ṯuṯ), and give it in her hand, AND SEND HER OUT (7971. šal-laḥ) of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.Adultery or unfaithfulness can break the marriage covenant. As does death. Israel being the example. Hense the Old and New covenants. Faithfulness is a condition that the marriage is built on.Ezekiel 16:38 (KJV)And I will judge thee, as women that BREAK WEDLOCK and shed blood are judged; and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy.




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Default Re: Can white and black people marry? - 04-27-2019, 10:59 PM

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Not according to the word of God.

Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? 2 Corinthians 6:14
I used to be married to a black women in 2017-2018. But the Lord convicted me of my deadly error. Before any uneducated "Christians" tell me remarriage was always sinful except if the spouse dies...



And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail Whosoever "putteth away" (630. apoluó) his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery. Luke 16:17-18


They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement (647. apostasion), AND to put her away (630. apoluó)? Matthew 19:7


Pharisees were “putting away” (630. apoluó) their wives for any cause WITHOUT giving them bills of divorcement (647. apostasies). Essentially, kicking them out and causing them too have to find someone to support them and fulfill their sexual needs. Without a final conclusion to the original marriage which was improperly handled by the husband, HE then causes her to commit technical adultery. The second husband should require to ask if she has been previously married and if so, present the certificate of divorce to make sure he is not marrying another man’s wife. Without one, she can’t move forward.What they should have been doing is abiding by both the words of Moses and Jesus which say the same exact thing. That ONLY for the case of sexual immorality can a husband DIVORCE his wife and then she can go remarry. Moses said this in Deuteronomy 24:1-4 and Jesus said this in Matthew 5:32 and 19:9. Unlceaness is sexual immorality and Fornication is the equivalent of the definition in the Greek.Matter of fact, God Himself gave a CERTIFICATE of DIVORCEMENT to Israel in Jeremiah 3:8. It is possible to put away WITHOUT giving the certificate of divorce thereby not completing the command. The Pharisees did this as well with there woman caught in adultery (Jn 8:1-11), they brought only the woman and not the man so they didn’t completely obey the command and were ashamed.Jeremiah 3:8 (KJV)And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, AND given her a BILL OF DIVORCE; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.Deuteronomy 24:1-2 (KJV)When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a BILL OF DIVORCEMENT, and give it in her hand, AND send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.Isaiah 50:1 (KJV)Thus saith the LORD, Where is the BILL OF YOUR MOTHER’S DIVORCEMENT whom I have put away? or which of my creditors is it to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away.Mark 10:4 (KJV)And they said, Moses suffered to write a BILL OF DIVORCEMENT, AND to put her away.Even in the Old Testement, the difference between “PUT AWAY” (7971. šal-laḥ) and giving a certificate of “DIVORCE” (3748. kə-rî-ṯuṯ) is obvious. Guess what God hates? Unjust PUTTING AWAY. - 7971. šal-laḥ: Send away- 3748. kə-rî-ṯuṯ: Divorce with certificateMalachi 2:16 (KJV)For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth PUTTING AWAY (7971. šal-laḥ,): for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.Deuteronomy 24:1-2 (KJV)When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a BILL OF DIVORCEMENT (3748. kə-rî-ṯuṯ), and give it in her hand, AND SEND HER OUT (7971. šal-laḥ) of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.Adultery or unfaithfulness can break the marriage covenant. As does death. Israel being the example. Hense the Old and New covenants. Faithfulness is a condition that the marriage is built on.Ezekiel 16:38 (KJV)And I will judge thee, as women that BREAK WEDLOCK and shed blood are judged; and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy.



Colossians chapter 3 versus 10 - "Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all."


John chapter 15 verses 13-14
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Default Re: Can white and black people marry? - 04-27-2019, 11:11 PM

God makes it clear that no one race of people is superior to another. On the contrary, He makes a point of telling Israel, the nation He chose to work with in the Old Testament, that “the stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God” (Leviticus 19:34).
We are all, if believers in Jesus, one in Christ (Gal. 3:28).We see from the rest of the New Testament that justification by faith does not eradicate our gender, our vocation, or our ethnicity, but it does relativize all these things. Our first and most important identity is not male or female, American or Russian, black or white, Spanish speaker or French speaker, rich or poor, influential or obscure, but Christian. We are more alike than we are different.






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It appears as though you two are trolls and are in cahoots with one another. I shall ignore you now.


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Default Re: Can white and black people marry? - 04-28-2019, 01:24 AM

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It appears as though you two are trolls and are in cahoots with one another. I shall ignore you now. :nono:
no sir, I came as a new member of the forum and have made a proper introduction in the section dedicated for same.I am a Child of God and really learnt a lot here and hope to do my little best as the Spirit of God directs


John chapter 15 verses 13-14
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Default Re: Can white and black people marry? - 04-28-2019, 01:31 AM

Quoting the wrong Bible and not starting off with a proper introduction at the start while also making an extra account to talk to yourself as some looney bin resident does not make a “saved person”.


My name is Maxine Levantine. I am 17 and follow the KJV Bible to a T. If you are wanting to hit on me you can turn away. THIS is reserved for Jesus and my future husband (whoever that may be).
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Default Re: Can white and black people marry? - 04-28-2019, 02:13 AM

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Quoting the wrong Bible and not starting off with a proper introduction at the start while also making an extra account to talk to yourself as some looney bin resident does not make a “saved person”.
hello friend, you need to examine and affirm a assertion before you lay the latter.I had actually posted a thread on the introduction forum of this lovely Baptist site before I continued commenting.check the link to my introduction here :----

https://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=116235


I used the new king James version. I believe its same replica with older version


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Colossians chapter 3 versus 10 - "Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all."
Of course, we are the same in Christ - that means, Jesus loves us all equally.

However, that has nothing to with equality under law. The Bible is very clear that hierarchy is the natural state of human society: men rule over women (1 Corinthians 11:3), masters rule over their slaves (Titus 2:9), and entire races are condemned to being slaves (Genesis 9:25).

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God makes it clear that no one race of people is superior to another. On the contrary, He makes a point of telling Israel, the nation He chose to work with in the Old Testament, that “the stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God” (Leviticus 19:34).
We are all, if believers in Jesus, one in Christ (Gal. 3:28).We see from the rest of the New Testament that justification by faith does not eradicate our gender, our vocation, or our ethnicity, but it does relativize all these things. Our first and most important identity is not male or female, American or Russian, black or white, Spanish speaker or French speaker, rich or poor, influential or obscure, but Christian. We are more alike than we are different.



Yet, we should shun, and whenever possible, kill unbelievers (Deuteronomy 7:1-6).

Jesus said that foreigners are like dogs - who should we believe anything else?

Matthew 15:22-26
22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

Mark 7:25-30
25 For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet:
26 The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.
27 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.
28 And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children's crumbs.
29 And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter.
30 And when she was come to her house, she found the devil gone out, and her daughter laid upon the bed.
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Excuse me? I have born five hale, hearty, clean-limbed sons for Christ! IT'S MA'AM!


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Excuse me? I have born five hale, hearty, clean-limbed sons for Christ! IT'S MA'AM!
sorry ma'am. May the peace of God be with you and your kids


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Not according to the word of God.
Often, I find that God's word is the distilled essence of common sense - but we would not have common sense without God, for it is He who has given it to use to stop us wasting our time working out things every generation.

It is common sense that the races should not mix. We are all appalled by the white woman who demeans herself by marrying a Darkie, or the smug Darkie who has entrapped a white woman. Likewise when we see a white man married to a Nigress, not one of us can prevent the thought "Poor soul... I why couldn't he get a real wife?"

The topic was definitively addressed in the book* from which this is taken:

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“THE NEGRO A BEAST” . . . OR . . . “IN THE IMAGE OF GOD” A masterful book by CHAS. CARROLL, who spent fifteen years of this life, and $20,000.00 in its compilation. (PUBLISHED BY AMERICAN BOOK AND BIBLE HOUSE, ST. LOUIS, MO., 1900.) Downloadable HERE







Ec:7:16: Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself?

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Thank you, Pastor Bathfire, for this very useful link.

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“THE NEGRO A BEAST” . . . OR . . . “IN THE IMAGE OF GOD” A masterful book by CHAS. CARROLL, who spent fifteen years of this life, and $20,000.00 in its compilation. (PUBLISHED BY AMERICAN BOOK AND BIBLE HOUSE, ST. LOUIS, MO., 1900.) Downloadable HERE

$20,000 in 1900 was the equivalent of about $600,000 today. Any man who was prepared to make such a large personal financial investment in bringing God's Holy Word to the UnSaved is certainly worth reading. I have downloaded the book and will be giving it to my older boys (the over-8s) as an exercise in literary criticism.


Revelation 21:8

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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