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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
05-10-2008, 02:22 AM
I remember being lured in by a Pong game when I was a little girl. After playing pong (solo) for many hours, I managed to get the paddles in just the right position to cause the "ball" to bounce back and forth repeatedly without further interaction. I remember being in some sort of time warp, where things happened that I no longer can recall. Fortunately, the four "D" sized batteries wore out and I regained consciousness. After my Mother Remington found out, she threw the Pong game into the fire and spit some whiskey on it to make sure it would burn completely. This was the day that I turned completely to the KJV 1611 Bible as my only form of entertainment.
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
05-10-2008, 07:40 AM
Games. Are. Not. The. Sole. Problem.
Get it? Want me to say it again?
Games. Are. Not. The. Sole. Problem.-
I bolded it also, so maybe it'll sink in.
-or even make up more than 2% of the problem (problem being a criminal society). You could take a child, raise him around a violent family who ignores/doesn't care about what the child does, or doesn't monitor behavior/ ESRB ratings and when the child commits a crime, blame it solely on the game instead of the parents. How much more retarded could you get?
It doesn't really matter anyway, you can bitch and moan and groan all you want, game developing studios aren't going anywhere.
Sionisx2 made some vary valid points.
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
05-10-2008, 07:46 AM
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Games. Are. Not. The. Sole. Problem.
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No.way!
That's why the forum isn't called the "Anti-videogame-forum". Why don't you go mess with them?
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
05-10-2008, 07:53 AM
That's just how you guys were making video games out to be, as if they were the greatest influence of deviant behavior in a child's life.
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
05-10-2008, 08:08 AM
They aren't?
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
05-10-2008, 02:20 PM
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They aren't?
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Nope, they sure aren't. I mean, you would figure the parents would have the ability to control and monitor what their children do, but that's just insane these days. Instead of blaming the parents, let's just blame the games that are rated 17+
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
05-10-2008, 04:13 PM
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Nope, they sure aren't. I mean, you would figure the parents would have the ability to control and monitor what their children do, but that's just insane these days. Instead of blaming the parents, let's just blame the games that are rated 17+
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But they are rated by secular governments that ignore HIS word! Until we have replaced the World's governments with Biblically correct theocracies, your (somewhat biased) plan will fail.
Case in point: The Extreme Shocking Game is being used to encourage kinky sodomite torture in teenagers all over the world. The manufacturer purposely shaped the handles just like dildos (forgive me Jesus) so that they can be inserted in the anus or cooter. Even worse, youngsters are posting videos of this activity. VERY DISTURBED MOTHER GLENDORA
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
05-10-2008, 06:50 PM
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But they are rated by secular governments that ignore HIS word! Until we have replaced the World's governments with Biblically correct theocracies, your (somewhat biased) plan will fail.
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The ESRB rating committee does a pretty decent job at rating a game ( be it console or PC ) when the developers or producers of a game don't influence their decision ( see GTA 4, also my first post on this page: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showt...046#post184046
Unfortunately, governments of this world, be it the US Government or other industrialized nation, will never fully adopt His Word into political practice fully in all aspects. It won't happen, sorry. Stop dreaming.
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Case in point: The Extreme Shocking Game is being used to encourage kinky sodomite torture in teenagers all over the world. The manufacturer purposely shaped the handles just like dildos (forgive me Jesus) so that they can be inserted in the anus or cooter. Even worse, youngsters are posting videos of this activity. VERY DISTURBED MOTHER GLENDORA
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No where did I refer to non PC or console games such as the hand held game you linked. All you are doing is syncing that hand held game with virtual games, which in itself is ridiculous. If you are going to present any case for example, at least use one that makes sense, please.
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
05-10-2008, 09:01 PM
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The ESRB rating committee does a pretty decent job at rating a game
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Bologna! Are you seriously telling me THIS doesn't deserve an adults-only rating?
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
05-10-2008, 10:49 PM
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Bologna! Are you seriously telling me THIS doesn't deserve an adults-only rating?
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Sister Virginia, that was absolutely shocking (I'm sure Dodger is purchasing the game right now). I have confiscated my son's video game and am in the process of breaking it to bits with my meat tenderizing mallet.
I do have a safe game that I recommend parents give to their children after confiscating their video games.
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
05-10-2008, 11:15 PM
Haha, no, I don't like social interactive games like The Sims. And that game you linked sounded like a voice over anyway. I'm more of a MMO, rpg, rts, fps (massively multiplayer online, role playing game, real time strategy, and first person shooter) type of player.
To Glendora, I feel sorry for your son. Why did you buy him the console system in the first place if you were only going to destroy it anyway? It doesn't really matter, as you've already supported any violent game by buying the console system, whether or not you were proving a point to your son. Whatever manufacture you bought it from, be it Sony ( playstation system) Microsoft ( x-box ) or Nintendo (SNES, Wii, any platform) you just supported all games they've ever released.
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
11-07-2008, 12:57 AM
Another update:
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Teenager found dead after dispute with parents over Xbox
Sophie Tedmanson
A teenage boy who ran away from home last month after his Xbox was confiscated has been found dead in Canada.
Brandon Crisp, 15, went missing on October 14 after his father forbade him from playing his video game console after becoming concerned about the teenager’s obsession with the online game Call of Duty 4. Steve Crisp said he removed the Xbox 360 after his son’s behaviour began to change. He said Brandon’s grades were slipping, he had started skipping school and stealing money. Brandon fled his home on his bicycle and was last seen in a popular hiking and cycling path near Barrie, Ontario, north of Toronto.
A local newspaper and Xbox creators Microsoft offered a $C50,000 reward (27,000pounds) and 1600 volunteers searched the local area, but all they found was his abandoned bicycle with a flat tyre. Brandon’s body was found by hunters in a cornfield on Wednesday.
In an interview with Canada’s Globe and Mail, Mr Crisp said he had not known how important the gaming system was to his son or how he would react when it was taken away. He warned other parents to be wary of how obsessive children can get with video games. Experts commented that gamers may form bonds with fellow online players, and Brandon’s parents said they were concerned he may have been lured away.
"This had become his identity, and I didn't realize how in-depth this was until I took his Xbox away," Mr Crisp told the Globe and Mail. "That's like cutting his legs off. This is such an issue that hits every parent out there, with video games that are starting to control our kids' lives," he said.
"I just took away his identity, so I can understand why he got so mad and took off. Before, I couldn't understand why he was taking off for taking his game away."
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These x-consoles are addicting. I've even heard the kids refer to it as X-tasy, as if it was some kind of euphoria. These dangers are real, and just another reason NOT to buy them for your children, no matter how much they beg.
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
11-18-2008, 01:31 AM
Hmm why I can agree that some video games can cause aggressive behavior. I would have to say that its just with people mainly that already have issues. Also I would put blame on the parents too. *just beat them or throw them out do not let them spend all day in front of the screen its not good anyways >:O* I would also agree the new generation of games is much worse. I do not even have a new gen system like xbox cause its just shooters and killing games .
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
10-30-2009, 04:19 PM
More evidence for the video games lead to murder file:
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Dad Kills Son Over Missing Video Game
Houstonian Ofelio Antonio Otero, 40, allegedly shot and killed his 17-year-old son yesterday morning after arguing with him about a missing video game.
Otero had been drinking heavily when he started arguing with his wife about said video game. His son, Ignacio, joined the argument and then Otero loaded his gun. According to Houston Police Department authorities, Ignacio first tried to knock the gun away from his father and then ran from him.
Otero shot his son in the neck. He fled as his son died at the scene.
Three hours later, he surrendered to an HPD SWAT team after a standoff.
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http://kotaku.com/5389638/dad-kil...video-game
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
10-30-2009, 07:12 PM
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*Whew!* The dang things ARE dangerous! I myself play a lot of "Rome;Total War", and a lot of my animation work at school is for games apps. The C++ I'm learning there is heavily slanted towards gaming, also.
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
11-17-2009, 08:55 AM
What about all the lives that have been saved from video games? the media never covers the truth which is well hidden. Video Games are a form of medetation which keeps peoples evil thoughts at bay. Tell me what is worse? someone murdering another in real life out of anger or in digital form. bottom line is video games keep children away from drugs and alchohol. Even Jesus would play Call of Duty your not a true Christian if you do not agree on this.
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
11-17-2009, 09:32 AM
Had to follow your other posts true peace I hope that you become important here. Unlike most of the people here you seem to understand both sides of a story and have genuine knowledge not just a scripture that may be fiction
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
11-17-2009, 09:40 AM
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What about all the lives that have been saved from video games? the media never covers the truth which is well hidden. Video Games are a form of medetation which keeps peoples evil thoughts at bay. Tell me what is worse? someone murdering another in real life out of anger or in digital form. bottom line is video games keep children away from drugs and alchohol. Even Jesus would play Call of Duty your not a true Christian if you do not agree on this.
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Had to follow your other posts true peace I hope that you become important here. Unlike most of the people here you seem to understand both sides of a story and have genuine knowledge not just a scripture that may be fiction
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Why are you having a conversation with yourself?
Oh, by the way, I am Banning one of you. Maybe both if this keeps up.
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
11-17-2009, 01:20 PM
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What about all the lives that have been saved from video games? the media never covers the truth which is well hidden. Video Games are a form of medetation which keeps peoples evil thoughts at bay. Tell me what is worse? someone murdering another in real life out of anger or in digital form. bottom line is video games keep children away from drugs and alchohol. Even Jesus would play Call of Duty your not a true Christian if you do not agree on this.
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Five Paths Toward Demon Oppression and Possession
1. Dabble in the occult and paranormal. By engaging in occult and most paranormal activities such as astrology, fortune-telling, clarivoyence, etc., you are entering Satan's arena and opening yourself to demonic attack.
2. Seek aid or enlightenment from foreign spiritual influences. Passively yielding one's mind through meditation, hypnotism, yoga, etc., and seeking knowledge or information from any type of "spiritual entity" is an excellent way to become demon possessed.
3. Seek power or authority from a supernatural source. Using witchcraft, sorcery, magic, charms, voodoo, etc., to give yourself power or influence over others in a supernatural manner is asking Satan to use you.
4. Use or become addicted to video games, drugs or alcohol. Anything that alters one's senses and places him in a passive state can allow the entrance of devils. Many under the influence of drugs or alcohol have claimed to see demons or the Devil.
5. Remain addicted to one's self. Neglecting prayer, Bible study, fellowship, witnessing, and other faith building activities can cause one to dwell constantly upon himself. He is following after Satan's will and not God's will.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Warning!! Video game addicts more violent during withdrawl! -
07-10-2010, 07:45 AM
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Bologna! Are you seriously telling me THIS doesn't deserve an adults-only rating?
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If I were the ESRB and I had to judge the entire game on that one scene, I would rate it Teen.
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Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.
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