[Lisa H]

True Christians already know how the world was created,. Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. The atheist scientists try and tell us it was created by the Big Bang. The world was created by a huge explosion.

At first the big bang theory is laughable. Is it really. The atheist scientists actually stole this theory from the Bible. It is just they omitted God from their theory. For proof, look at the wording Genesis 1:1

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
In the beginning a big bang created the heaven and the earth

Atheist scientists will try and prove there theory is correct by showing complex models and complex mathematical formulas. We True Christians know that they are just magicians tricks. Then at the last resort they will say show us proof. We show them the Bible, the greatest proof there is.

[Dirk]

Dear Lisa,

It seems you are correct and know the truth. It is pretty obvious that they have stolen the Big Bang theory from the Holy Bible King James 1611 and thus use the word of God.

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

[TheDrunkenScot]

If you're going to insult atheists, at least get our theories right. Big Bang Theory = a rapid expansion of matter from the singularity point. The only time you'll hear it called an "explosion" is when we need to use simple words for you poor hicks.
Oh, and we don't say it created "the heaven and the earth", we say it created the universe. No heaven, because no God.

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by TheDrunkenScot

If you're going to insult atheists, at least get our theories right.

If you're going to say something, start by using your brain. We are not insulting atheists, it is the atheists who are insulting God by ignoring his Holy Bible. No atheist has even been able to explain what caused creation (or the Big Bang as they call it), while the Holy Bible has been explaining it crystal clear for ages now.

[Lisa H]

Originally Posted by TheDrunkenScot

If you're going to insult atheists, at least get our theories right. Big Bang Theory = a rapid expansion of matter from the singularity point. The only time you'll hear it called an "explosion" is when we need to use simple words for you poor hicks.
Oh, and we don't say it created "the heaven and the earth", we say it created the universe. No heaven, because no God.

Have you been drinking again.

God created the heaven & earth. Your big bang theories keep changing to suit whatever "new evidence" is found. How many "new universes" do you atheists find.

[SUV]

Oh, yeah, the "BIG" Bang. I am so underwhelmed

Poor, puling athians - is that all they have?

With JESUS, everybody is a

[WinnerNotSinner]

Originally Posted by TheDrunkenScot

Big Bang Theory = a rapid expansion of matter from the singularity point.

I bet you don't even know what this means . It sounds like scientific jargon made to cover up the fact atheists have no idea how the Heaven and Earth was created.

What is a singularity point anyway, does it even matter?

You're so gullible you'll believe anything a lab assistant with a joke science degree wants you to believe. If the earth was created by a big bang, why does it not say this in the Bible?

[TheDrunkenScot]

Originally Posted by WinnerNotSinner

I bet you don't even know what this means . It sounds like scientific jargon made to cover up the fact atheists have no idea how the Heaven and Earth was created.

What is a singularity point anyway, does it even matter?

You're so gullible you'll believe anything a lab assistant with a joke science degree wants you to believe. If the earth was created by a big bang, why does it not say this in the Bible?

Matter is any substance which has mass (not the Catholic type, before you try and twist that) and occupies space. All physical objects are composed of matter, in the form of atoms, which are in turn composed of protons, neutrons, and electrons.

The singularity point is a point in space-time at which gravitational forces cause matter to have infinite density and infinitesimal volume, and space and time to become infinitely distorted. To make it easy for you "home-schooled" fellows - every single atom, neutron, electron and proton, along with many other types of subatomic particles and dark matter, was in the smallest possible space, with the kinetic and thermal energy of the entire Universe compressed within this single point in space-time.

The Big Bang is the rapid expansion of this singularity point due to the volatile nature and extreme compression of all that matter, which created (we hypothesise) a massive thermo-nuclear fission reaction, equivalent to every star in the galaxy going into a supernova at once and then some. Several million years of gravitational pulls later, stars formed, giant balls of hydrogen gas that created self-perpetuating fission reactions. The stars created enough gravitational force to start dragging matter into orbits around them, and these loose, vast belts of raw material coalesced into planets of various kinds.

[Brother Enoch]

Hmmm, isn't a singularity a black hole? And wouldn't a black hole that had the entire universe in it be the biggest possible black hole? And don't scientists say nothing, not even light can escape a black hole? So how did the universe get out of that huge black hole smartypants? Hmm? Or are we still in it?

Gotcha!

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by TheDrunkenScot

The Big Bang is the rapid expansion of this singularity point due to the volatile nature and extreme compression of all that matter, which created (we hypothesise) a massive thermo-nuclear fission reaction, equivalent to every star in the galaxy going into a supernova at once and then some.

Genesis 1:3 "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."

[TheDrunkenScot]

Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man

Genesis 1:3 "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."

Atomic fission =/= God saying "go boom now okay".

Originally Posted by Brother Enoch

Hmmm, isn't a singularity a black hole? And wouldn't a black hole that had the entire universe in it be the biggest possible black hole? And don't scientists say nothing, not even light can escape a black hole? So how did the universe get out of that huge black hole smartypants? Hmm? Or are we still in it?

Gotcha!

All black holes are singularities, not all singularities are black holes. The singularity point from whence the Big Bang began is a perfect example of this. Nice try though.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Question for you, Drunken Scot:

How do atheists explain supernatural phenomena like miracles and prophecy in the Bible? And don't say "we don't believe in them". You can't keep using the same excuse over and over.

[Brother Enoch]

Originally Posted by TheDrunkenScot

Atomic fission =/= God saying "go boom now okay".



All black holes are singularities, not all singularities are black holes. The singularity point from whence the Big Bang began is a perfect example of this. Nice try though.

What is it then? It's my understanding that your physicists say objects beyond a certain mass collapse into black holes. All the matter in the universe in one body would certainly qualify as having sufficient mass to create a black hole. And according to that wheelchair guy, Richard Hawking or whatever (I read him on the crapper sometimes, keeps me regular), the only thing that escapes from black holes are positively charged virtual particles. So is the whole universe just virtual particles then? With all the negative particles from the original virtual particle pairs having entered the event horizon thus annihilating themselves along with the original super-super-massive black hole?

Yeah, I think I'll stick with Genesis.

[TheDrunkenScot]

Originally Posted by Billy Bob Jenkins

Question for you, Drunken Scot:

How do atheists explain supernatural phenomena like miracles and prophecy in the Bible? And don't say "we don't believe in them". You can't keep using the same excuse over and over.

Wait, so I can't give the answer I honestly stand by? Wow, nice way to try and win the argument - just refuse to allow valid answers.

Okay then - to put it simply, miracles and "supernatural phenomena" are either rare, but explainable occurences, or they are occurences we cannot currently explain (the "God of the gaps" theory, wherein people only attribute to God what they cannot [yet] understand).
As for prophecy - the majority of prophecies in the Bible are awfully vague - in fact, the only "prophesier" I would consider statistically accurate enough to merit consideration would be Nostradamus, who predicted more things, more accurately, than most other fortune-tellers.

And as a rule, anything from the Bible is unable to be considered as "true" prophecy, as the original book was not even compiled until roughly 300AD, and your KJV was not compiled until 1611 (by the Church of England), so is an unreliable historical source.

[SUV]

Originally Posted by TheDrunkenScot

Wow

Oh.My.GOD.

Now he's not only drunk but also *smoking something*

[TheDrunkenScot]

Originally Posted by SUV

Oh.My.GOD.

Now he's not only drunk but also *smoking something*

Saying "Wow" means I'm doing drugs? That is the most utterly ass-backward logic I have ever heard.

Care to prove the link between saying "Wow" and being on drugs? Preferably with scripture, since you refuse to allow any other method of proof when I use it...

[SUV]

Originally Posted by TheDrunkenScot

Care to prove the link between saying "Wow" and being on drugs? Preferably with scripture, since you refuse to allow any other method of proof when I use it...

That's for ME to Know® and YOU to find out

[TheDrunkenScot]

Originally Posted by SUV

That's for ME to Know® and YOU to find out

In other words, you can't. Off you go, back to sewing or being abused by your husband or forcing your viewpoint on your children or whatever it is you people do of an evening.

[BelieverInGod]

Has this idiot taken over every thread? Talk about Narcissism.

[SUV]

Originally Posted by TheDrunkenScot

In other words, you can't. Off you go, back to sewing or being abused by your husband or forcing your viewpoint on your children or whatever it is you people do of an evening.

You need to be jealous! Just take off that skirt, put a pipe in that mug, and ACCEPT JESUS!

Join us! You'll like it! You'll see!