[Clyde The Papist]

ing James Version" redirects here. For other uses, see King James Version (disambiguation). Authorized Version
The title page to the 1611 first edition of the Authorized Version Bible by Cornelius Boel shows the Apostles Peter and Paul seated centrally at the top. Moses and Aaron flank the central text. In the four corners sit Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, authors of the four gospels, with their symbolic animals. The rest of the Apostles stand at the top.



Full name: Authorized Version
King James Abbreviation: KJV or AV Complete Bible published: 1611 Textual Basis: NT: High Correspondence to the Beza 1589 edition of the Textus Receptus, similar to the Byzantine text-type; some readings derived from the Vulgate.[1] OT: Masoretic Text with Septuagint influence. Apocrypha: Septuagint with Vulgate influence. Reading Level: US and Canada Grade 12,[2] US and Canada Grade 8-10[3] Copyright status: Public domain due to age, publication restrictions until 2039 in the United Kingdom
(See Copyright status) Genesis 1:1-3 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Concordant Hebrew English Sublinear
"in beginning he-created Elohim the heavens and the earth and the earth she-became chaos and vacancy and darkness over surfaces-of abyss and spirit-of Elohim vibrating over surfaces-of the waters and he-is-saying Elohim he-shall-become light and he-is-becoming light"
©2007 Scripture4all Foundation John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Concordant Greek Text Sublinear
"thus for loves the God the system as-besides the son the only-generated he-gives that every the one-believing into him no should-be-being-destroyed but may-be-having life eonian"
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The Authorized King James Version is an English translation of the Christian Bible begun in 1604 and first published in 1611 by the Church of England. The Great Bible was the first "authorized version" issued by the Church of England in the reign of King Henry VIII.[4] In January 1604, King James I of England convened the Hampton Court Conference where a new English version was conceived in response to the perceived problems of the earlier translations as detected by the Puritans, a faction within the Church of England.
The king gave the translators instructions designed to guarantee that the new version would conform to the ecclesiology and reflect the episcopal structure of the Church of England and its beliefs about an ordained clergy. The translation was by 47 scholars, all of whom were members of the Church of England. In common with most other translations of the period, the New Testament was translated from the Textus Receptus (Received Text) series of the Greek texts. The Old Testament was translated from the Masoretic Hebrew text, while the Apocrypha were translated from the Greek Septuagint (LXX), except for 2 Esdras, which was translated from the Latin Vulgate.
While the Authorized Version was meant to replace the Bishops' Bible as the official version for readings in the Church of England, it was apparently (unlike the Great Bible) never specifically "authorized", although it is commonly known as the Authorized Version in the United Kingdom. However, the King's Printer issued no further editions of the Bishops' Bible; so necessarily the Authorized Version supplanted it as the standard lectern Bible in parish church use in England. In the Book of Common Prayer (1662), the text of the Authorized Version replaced the text of the Great Bible — the Epistle and Gospel readings — and as such was "authorized" by Act of Parliament.[5] In the United States, the Authorized Version is known as the King James Version. The earliest appearance in print of the phrase "authorized version", to mean this particular version of the bible, was published in 1824.[6] The phrase 'King James version' first appeared in print in 1884.[7]
By the first half of the 18th Century, the Authorized Version was effectively unchallenged as the sole English translation in current use in Protestant churches. Over the course of the 18th Century, the Authorized Version supplanted the Latin Vulgate as the standard version of scripture for English speaking scholars.
In most of the world, the Authorized Version has passed out of copyright and is freely reproduced. In the United Kingdom, the British Crown restricts production of the Authorized Version per transitional exemptions from the Copyright Act 1775 (which implemented this clause) in the Copyright, Designs and patents Act 1988 (Schedule I, section 13(1)), which expire in 2039. Cambridge University Press, Oxford University Press, HarperCollins and the Queen's Printers have the right to produce the Authorized Version.

[Clyde The Papist]

The King James Bible was created by the Church of England A.K.A.
Catholic Light .... or Cult Light. The Church of England was never a pure protestant church it never rejected the sacraments, the king just wanted to get divorced. It's a good thing you believe in the once saved always saved doctrine. Otherwise I think some followers might have a problem reading a bible that was created by a Cult...I mean Cult Light.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Originally Posted by Clydeall12

PROOF THAT SOME UT KNOWS HOW TO CUT AND PASTE SNIPPED

Originally Posted by Clydeall12

The King James Bible was created by the Church of England A.K.A.
Catholic Light .... or Cult Light. The Church of England was never a pure protestant church it never rejected the sacraments, the king just wanted to get divorced. It's a good thing you believe in the once saved always saved doctrine. Otherwise I think some followers might have a problem reading a bible that was created by a Cult...I mean Cult Light.

Wow, you're the first person EVER to come into our forum and question our belief in God's word! Thank you for setting us straight! I'm converting to Cattylickolosism tommorrow!

Go sell crazy someplace else dimwit!

[John Bois Ward]

Why do papists, atheists, and orientals always insist on attacking us? I understand why they are an ill mannered, ignorant bunch, but why are they so hateful?

[Clyde The Papist]

Salvation does not come simply through one act of accepting Christ as our Savior. Salvation depends on the condition of you soul at the moment of death. We must make lifelong effort to follow Jesus faithfully by keeping His commandments and adhering to the blueprint He laid down in the Sermon on the Mount. Paul did not think salvation was assured by his born-again experience on the road to Damascus. He told the Phillippians "work with anxious concern to achieve salvation" (Phillippians 2:12). Other translations say " Work out your salvation with fear and trembling."

[John Bois Ward]

Originally Posted by Clydeall12

Salvation does not come simply through one act of accepting Christ as our Savior. Salvation depends on the condition of you soul at the moment of death. We must make lifelong effort to follow Jesus faithfully by keeping His commandments and adhering to the blueprint He laid down in the Sermon on the Mount. Paul did not think salvation was assured by his born-again experience on the road to Damascus. He told the Phillippians "work with anxious concern to achieve salvation" (Phillippians 2:12). Other translations say " Work out your salvation with fear and trembling."

And what about the rest of The Bible?

[Clyde The Papist]

The King James Version of the bible was written by Cult Light. The Vulgate was the first bible translated into Latin by St. Jerome it is truly the word of God, just as the Septuagint or the Old Testament in the Catholic bible is truly the word of God. It was good enough for Jesus, my Lord and Savior, why isn't it good enough for the King?

[Clyde The Papist]

What about it?

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Originally Posted by Clydeall12

Salvation does not come simply through one act of accepting Christ as our Savior.

Yes it does.

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.Mark16:16

Originally Posted by Clydeall12

Salvation depends on the condition of you soul at the moment of death.

That sounds awfully Catholic to me. "Condition of your soul" = Have you confessed lately?

Originally Posted by Clydeall12

We must make lifelong effort to follow Jesus faithfully by keeping His commandments and adhering to the blueprint He laid down in the Sermon on the Mount.

We must follow EVERY WORD of the KJV 1611, both Old and New Testament. The Sermon on the Mount was delivered by Jesus, who is both the Son and the Father as well as the Holy Spirit. They are the Three who are One. The words of Leviticus are just as important as the Gospels!

Originally Posted by Clydeall12

Paul did not think salvation was assured by his born-again experience on the road to Damascus. He told the Phillippians "work with anxious concern to achieve salvation" (Phillippians 2:12). Other translations say " Work out your salvation with fear and trembling."

Blah blah blah! Look, I can quote scripture too! Here's a little something from 2nd Timothy. 1:9 to be precise.

Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

[Larry Lee]

The paucity of texts available to Jerome make his effort a shallow reflection of God's Word, which only a Catlicker would dream of denying.

[John Bois Ward]

Originally Posted by Clydeall12

The King James Version of the bible was written by Cult Light. The Vulgate was the first bible translated into Latin by St. Jerome it is truly the word of God, just as the Septuagint or the Old Testament in the Catholic bible is truly the word of God. It was good enough for Jesus, my Lord and Savior, why isn't it good enough for the King?

And the Masoretic Text was the basis for the translation of the Old Testament in the King James Bible. I didn't ask for a history of the papist book. I asked about the papist stance on following The Whole Bible, and not just "the Sermon on the Mount."

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Originally Posted by Clydeall12

The King James Version of the bible was written by Cult Light. The Vulgate was the first bible translated into Latin by St. Jerome it is truly the word of God, just as the Septuagint or the Old Testament in the Catholic bible is truly the word of God. It was good enough for Jesus, my Lord and Savior, why isn't it good enough for the King?

So you've read the original Greek then? Otherwise, how would you know the translations are accurate? I don't need some inbred country bumpkin Catholic telling me I'm wrong about being Saved! Shouldn't you be in line for Opry tickets?

Originally Posted by Clydeall12

What about it?

What about what Cletus?

[John Bois Ward]

Originally Posted by Clydeall12

The King James Version of the bible was written by Cult Light. The Vulgate was the first bible translated into Latin by St. Jerome it is truly the word of God, just as the Septuagint or the Old Testament in the Catholic bible is truly the word of God. It was good enough for Jesus, my Lord and Savior, why isn't it good enough for the King?

Also, are you saying the Septuagint, which was written in Greek, was good enough for Jesus? We won’t stand for you calling Jesus a Greek-speaking boy lover. That’s not accepted here. So Cletus, I suggest you get in your 4x4 pickup and drive to the open arms of your priest and leave us in peace.

[Clyde The Papist]

[edit] Christian use

The early Christian Church used the Greek texts since Greek was a lingua franca of the Roman Empire at the time, and the language of the Church. In addition the Church Fathers tended to accept Philo's account of the LXX's miraculous and inspired origin. Furthermore, the New Testament writers, when citing the Jewish scriptures or when quoting Jesus doing so, freely used the Greek translation, implying that the Apostles and their followers considered it reliable.[20]
When Jerome undertook the revision of the Old Latin translations of the Septuagint, he checked the Septuagint against the Hebrew texts that were then available. He came to believe that the Hebrew text better testified to Christ than the Septuagint.[21] He broke with church tradition and translated most of the Old Testament of his Vulgate from Hebrew rather than Greek. His choice was severely criticized by Augustine, his contemporary; a flood of still less moderate criticism came from those who regarded Jerome as a forger. But with the passage of time, acceptance of Jerome's version gradually increased until it displaced the Old Latin translations of the Septuagint.[5]
The Hebrew text diverges in some passages that Christians hold to prophesy Christ[22] and the Eastern Orthodox Church still prefers to use the LXX as the basis for translating the Old Testament into other languages. The Eastern Orthodox also use LXX untranslated where Greek is the liturgical language, e.g. in the Orthodox Church of Constantinople, the Church of Greece and the Cypriot Orthodox Church. Many modern critical translations of the Old Testament, while using the Masoretic text as their basis, consult the Septuagint as well as other versions in an attempt to reconstruct the meaning of the Hebrew text whenever the latter is unclear, undeniably corrupt, or ambiguous.[5]

[Clyde The Papist]

Many theologians, both Protestant and Catholic, believe that you cannot fully understand the book of John without reading the book of Wisdom.

[John Bois Ward]

Cletus,what is wrong with you? Is it the in-breeding or the moonshine that prevents you from answering questions?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

We follow the KJV1611 Bible because it is the only version transmitted directly from God. The fact that you follow a largely made-up version of the Bible means that you are as hellbound as any muslim or joo.

Go spew your hatred elsewhere, mary-worshiper.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Originally Posted by Clyde The Papist

More proof that Cletus can hold the control buton down while hitting the 'C' key snipped

You might as well be cutting and pasting pages from the Bass Pro Shops website for all the sense it makes. As to a couple of your inane questions:

The Baptist curch is the ORIGINAL Church of Jesus Christ. It is you Catlickers that got it wrong when you started worshipping Mary and "Il Papa" in 381. Your church went astray so long ago you don't even realize how wrong you are. You're all just a bunch of art-collecting kid-touchers!

Saying we worship John the Baptist is like saying you Catholics worship Cathy, when we all know you worship Mary. Our church believes in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, not some bunch of old men wearing dresses and silly hats!

Originally Posted by Clyde The Papist

Many theologians, both Protestant and Catholic, believe that you cannot fully understand the book of John without reading the book of Wisdom.

Many "theologians" think all kinds of crap, like you should go to church on Saturday, that Jesus came to America to hang out with a bunch of white Indians, that you shouldn't eat pork and that a cow has to be killed just right or the juicy steaks he contains will be unfit to eat!

Theologians? Pah! We need ONE theologian, and His name is God and His Instruction Manual is the KJV 1611! God said it, we believe it, case closed! Praise!

[John Bois Ward]

Originally Posted by Clyde The Papist

Many theologians, both Protestant and Catholic, believe that you cannot fully understand the book of John without reading the book of Wisdom.

And what God and Country loving Protestant believes one can not understand The Teachings of Jesus without understanding The Book of Wisdom, which was written in Greek by a Plato reading joo living in Alexandria? What is with this papist fascination for Greek love?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

A papist? On these Godly boards? Has this vile demon no shame! The facile stupidity of his beliefs indicate that he is completely under the thrall of the anti-Christ the vicar of Rome! His theology is as thin and weak as wet toilet tissue!

Take your heresy elsewhere Rome-boy.