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I'm trying to follow this. "After" means after the tribulation the sun is darkened?
Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
There's a darkened sun. What happened next? Is that what you're referring to?
Thanks, I appreciate the correction. Nevertheless, I am looking for the scripture that says the tribulation was seven years.


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Default Re: The End of The World and The Rapture - 04-15-2019, 08:34 PM

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Thanks, I appreciate the correction. Nevertheless, I am looking for the scripture that says the tribulation was seven years.
How about answering her question, instead of shifting to a whole new set of goalposts entirely? Let me remind you:
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The idea of the pre trib rapture is a lie from Satan. The early church taught no such thing...[/youtube]
What is your confusion, the timing of the Rapture or the duration?

I eagerly await your reply explaining how Pharaoh of Exodus could not have been Rameses II.


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Because it was Hatshepsut?
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Default Re: The End of The World and The Rapture - 04-17-2019, 10:28 PM

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Because it was Hatshepsut?
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Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken Matthew 24:29
"Yeah, and who taught that before Darby in the 19th century?"

Preceding Darby were Puritans such as Increase and Cotton Mathers, but the only real Christian™ to teach Pretribulationalism could be attributed to a 1788 essay of Morgan Edwards, First Baptist Church of Philadelphia.


However, all those men were testifying to what Jesus Christ, Himself, said:


"Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, 'til they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. (Matthew 16:24-28)


"... And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." (Revelation 13:17-18)
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Default Re: The End of The World and The Rapture - 05-03-2019, 02:16 PM

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Thanks, I appreciate the correction. Nevertheless, I am looking for the scripture that says the tribulation was seven years.
I'm not the one making claims here. Are you saying the tribulation occurred just after the sun was darkened in the first century or not?

An approx. seven year period consists of 1,335 days in Daniel 12:10-12 followed by 42 months in Revelation 12:17 – 13:7 but you'd need to consider whether the saints being persecuted were either present or absent at those times or resurrected or not. Is that what you're referring to?
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Gesundheit, Sister.
I understand that your female mind is too small to understand this but Hatshepsut was the fifth pharaoh of the Eighteenth Dynasty of Egypt, not a sign of the common cold.


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Default Re: The End of The World and The Rapture - 12-28-2020, 01:08 AM

Funny, Bible says that in the rapture we will be changed into glorified bodies (basically, God creating a new body for us), if He can do that huge change to fully developed humans, I'm sure He can make a brand new body for an unborn baby. It's simple!If you really sincerely believe that about pregnant women, I encourage you to ask God and wait upon his direct answer.
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...I'm sure He can make a brand new body for an unborn baby. It's simple!...
So there would suddenly be these adult bodies occupied by minds who haven't yet learned to breathe, let alone begin to understand the giant world outside of their mother's wombs.

And, because Heaven, eternal and unchanging, they are trapped in this confused, uncomprehending state FOREVER.

Every time a Christian describes their Heaven, it sounds more like Hell to me.


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Every time a Christian describes their Heaven, it sounds more like Hell to me.
You only say that because you have been banned from setting foot in Freehold Iowa, the home of the Landover Baptist Church and about as close as anyone can come to finding Heaven on Earth. No crime, no drugs, no jews or muslims, no oral sex or other sexual immorality, no rock-and-roll music or other Earthly entertainment, neighbors watching your every move to make sure you follow God's laws. Even the negro servants in Freehold act like civilized men! Verily, it is a True Christian™ paradise.

I know the Lord has called me to live in the den of iniquity that is New York City, but I truly miss Freehold.


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. . . Freehold Iowa, the home of the Landover Baptist Church and about as close as anyone can come to finding Heaven on Earth. No crime, no drugs, no jews or muslims, no . . . Even the negro servants in Freehold act like civilized men! Verily, it is a True Christian™ paradise.

I know the Lord has called me to live in the den of iniquity that is New York City, but I truly miss Freehold.
I am certain that you will make a fine witness for The Lord there in NYC. Just make certain that you cast a wary eye out for the Jews. I understand there are more of them in that location than there are in parts of Israel. Sure, until recently, they had an Italian mayor (and an Italian governor), but from what I've been reading, most Italians are something called a "crypto-Jew".

Above all, avoid something called a "delicatessen". It sounds all French and fancy, but I hear most of those things are fairly overrun with Jews.


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Default Re: The End of The World and The Rapture - 03-03-2022, 12:35 AM

I'm getting confused again; will unborn babies be raptured? What happens if the mother is an atheist or an idolator (such as a mohammedan who's never heard a true word spoken from one day to the next) or even a communist? Alternatively, sticking with idolators for the time being, what about the idea that nobody ever converts to a creed but only reverts to it – presumably that means everyone starts off as a whatever, then goes off the rails and turns into a Christian or Satanist or what they call the vilest of animals, (us, in other words)

then POOF one day reverts to moon worship just like they were before

the highlighting demonstrates what necessarily follows from the concept and what a mother brought up in that tradition necessarily thinks 1 about us in our as yet unreverted state 2 her unborn child and 3 herself.

3. She may never have deviated
2. The baby has not had the opportunity
1. and obviously, to her, there's no hope for us

In this scenario, in her mind, what happens to the baby? What happens if she becomes a Christian?
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