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Arrow Why beastiality is wrong: New Zealanders take note! - 04-14-2010, 07:22 PM

Recently, we've been getting many emails from New Zealanders who are surprised and confused to find that the Bible bans beastiality. They are confused about the exact definition of beastiality, and why God condemns it. In particular, they want to know why God demands that the sheep also be killed.

Here is the scripture:

And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast - Leviticus 20:15

Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. - Leviticus 18:23

Now, God desn't just throw out rules for no reason. Here the reason is clearly stated -- because "it is confusion".

In John Gill's commentary, he explains that as follows

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it [is] confusion;

a mixing of the seed of man and beast together, a blending of different kinds of creatures, a perverting the order of nature, and introducing the utmost confusion of beings, from whence monsters in nature may arise.
God forbade sex with animals, not because of some sort of PETA-style animal-rights touchy-feely liberal squeamishness, but for a pragmatic practical reason: we don't want animal-human hybrid monsters running around. For example, if a bull impregnates a human woman, she might give birth to a minotaur. Some may say this is far-fetched, but remember that the Bible confirms the existence of unicorns, satyrs, dragons, giant man-swallowing fishes, sea serpents, giants, cockatrices, and so on.

This is confirmed by the fact that God orders the beast killed - but only when it lies with a man:

And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast - Leviticus 20:15

There's no point in killing a beast that lay with a woman, since that beast isn't pregnant - and thus, no monsters.

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Did God not offer Adam all the animals in Eden, to choose a 'mate'? When Adam wasn't attracted to any, he tore out a rib and made eve. The Bible condemns man who lie with a beast in the same way as a man lie with a woman who he has not married, i think. Otherwise why would he have offered Adam an animal bride if he did not intend them to mate?
I am too humble a man to claim I can read God's mind. I'm sure God knew what He was doing. I think this gives us all the more reason to praise Adam, for it would be a VERY different world if Adam had stopped with the llama and said "this'll do".

Though I'll admit, some days when I'm persecuted by feminazis and uppity women....I wonder what might have been.

Then I realize that this alternate history would result in the entire world being like New Zealand, and I snap out of it!


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Default Re: Why beastiality is wrong: New Zealanders take note! - 04-14-2010, 08:46 PM

Damn secular law. I've found messicans in the barn (mostly the 16 to 25 year olds) mounting my animals from time to time. I have to kill the animal, sell the messicans possessions and have him work off the expense of my loss. Secular law will not let me kill the messican though. It just does not seem fair sometimes. God, the most benevolent being decrees it is rioght and just and then some money grubbing demoncrat says I can only follow part of Gods law. I mean, it is not like they are Americans. That chafes my wheat, let me tell you.

Jeb, does New Zooland secular law enable them to kill the miscreant?


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Default Re: Why beastiality is wrong: New Zealanders take note! - 04-15-2010, 07:40 AM

it does not because that is murder


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Default Re: Why beastiality is wrong: New Zealanders take note! - 04-16-2010, 02:49 AM

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Default Re: Why beastiality is wrong: New Zealanders take note! - 04-17-2010, 05:40 PM

AMEN Brother:
Why is it that the heathen think that their way is right and not THE HOLY WORD OF GOD!


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Default Re: Why beastiality is wrong: New Zealanders take note! - 04-17-2010, 06:54 PM

@Freeks-Angel it is not murder if you stone a sinner! When one of my rabbits is bad I stone him!
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Default Re: Why beastiality is wrong: New Zealanders take note! - 04-18-2010, 05:24 AM

both stonning and murder is bad. murder is 10 times worse. i do not live near sheep and we dont do sheep either. you no nothing of this nation so stop accusing us of something you dont know of


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Default Re: Why beastiality is wrong: New Zealanders take note! - 04-18-2010, 05:36 AM

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both stonning and murder is bad. murder is 10 times worse. i do not live near sheep and we dont do sheep either. you no nothing of this nation so stop accusing us of something you dont know of
It's not murder if God orders it, okay?

For example, under God's direction, Moses' army defeats the Midianites. They kill all the adult males, but take the women and children captive. When Moses learns that they left some live, he angrily says: "Have you saved all the women alive? Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." So they went back and did as Moses (and presumably God) instructed, killing everyone except for the virgins. In this way they got 32,000 virgins --captive girl children virgins! ---- Numbers 31:1-54


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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Why beastiality is wrong: New Zealanders take note! - 04-18-2010, 06:04 AM

what you said made no sence


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Quoting the Bible makes no sense to you? How dare you! Why do you bother to come onto GOD's forum spouting your ignorance. If you gave Jesus just one bit of your time to dust off your Bible and read it, perhaps you would understand!



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Well i couldnt find the point sir. I will jive Jesus my time when i have enough money to buy a bible then hopefully some parts of the bible i will b more understandable. Its just the quote above to me made no sence.


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He DOES need to buy a dictionary, or at least a decent spell-checker!
I am a she. I do have one somewhere but its old


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Default Re: Why beastiality is wrong: New Zealanders take note! - 04-19-2010, 04:29 AM

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I am a she. I do have one somewhere but its old
OK she...it's not so old that it has misspelled words, is it?
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OK she...it's not so old that it has misspelled words, is it?
I admire your adherence to standard grammar, capitalization and punctuation, but I feel it's not in our best interests to browbeat this one over it.


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Default Re: Why beastiality is wrong: New Zealanders take note! - 04-20-2010, 05:58 AM

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the computer hurts my eyes if i read something on it so i like it better if its right infront of me
You can always print it off page by page.


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Default Re: Why beastiality is wrong: New Zealanders take note! - 04-20-2010, 08:07 AM

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You can always print it off page by page.
parents wont like me printing that many pages. we will run out of ink quickly.


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