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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 01-20-2007, 04:35 AM

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Why would the spiders that hasn't been attacked by a wasp (and thus not died) evolve poision versus wasps?
The spiders would not perceive any threat of wasps anymore than a threat from polar bears. (not that it would matter)
Nor would there be any "natural selection" (as EVERY spider ever attacked by a wasp ALWAYS die!) so they might as well have started to develop hands!
It's just as silly.
Uhhh, your idea is silly. And who says that counter measures will never be developed? Evolution does take time you know. And remember, the predator is one step ahead of the prey.
Not to mention the spider probably would have mated before being eaten. Thus the eating not stopping it from mating. As with the species which eat their mate after mating. On that reasoning, do you see those species dying out? (Smart spiders, though, no pesky men)

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I know very well that the bible god is not loving, and oddly enough, so do you folk, however, a great many creationists do maintain the idea of a loving god.
And what I said STILL disproves intelligent design.

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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 01-20-2007, 05:06 AM

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Uhhh, your idea is silly. And who says that counter measures will never be developed? Evolution does take time you know. And remember, the predator is one step ahead of the prey.
Not to mention the spider probably would have mated before being eaten. Thus the eating not stopping it from mating. As with the species which eat their mate after mating. On that reasoning, do you see those species dying out?
God says counter-measures will never be devoloped since evilution isn't mentioned in the Holy Bible.
And I see you have all these fancy excuses when you cannot meet our arguments..
"It takes time" yap yap yap.. "The predator is one step ahead" yap yap yap...

And how could it ever mate if it's paralysed?
Also, once more: where would the wasp ever get the idea of starting to lay eggs inside of living things?
It wouldn't! It must be because of God!
It isn't even wise from an evilutional point of view as spiders could be hard to come by.

And I'm not talking about spiders eating their mates, nor am I interested in that argument since it's pointless.
As once they've mated, these "genes" will obviously be passed on already (as they've already mated), so it makes no difference then.

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I know very well that the bible god is not loving, and oddly enough, so do you folk, however, a great many creationists do maintain the idea of a loving god.
And what I said STILL disproves intelligent design.
It doesn't disprove jack. It only disproves that you could be intelligent.


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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 01-20-2007, 05:19 AM

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And how could it ever mate if it's paralysed?
Also, once more: where would the wasp ever get the idea of starting to lay eggs inside of living things?
It wouldn't! It must be because of God!
It isn't even wise from an evilutional point of view as spiders could be hard to come by.
Does it START OFF LIFE paralyzed? Don't be stupid, the spiders more than likely would have had ample chance to mate before getting stung and infected by the wasp. It doesn't get stung the moment it comes into being! Sheesh!
And the wasp merely has developed instincts, plain instincts over time. Reproduction. Survival. The two most basic instincts there are.

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And I'm not talking about spiders eating their mates, nor am I interested in that argument since it's pointless.
As once they've mated, these "genes" will obviously be passed on already (as they've already mated), so it makes no difference then.
It is no different from the wasp ridden spiders. The spiders would have most probably had ample chance to mate BEFORE getting stung initially and implanted. Don't you ever think outside the square?



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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 01-20-2007, 06:04 AM

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Does it START OFF LIFE paralyzed? Don't be stupid, the spiders more than likely would have had ample chance to mate before getting stung and infected by the wasp. It doesn't get stung the moment it comes into being! Sheesh!
Read my third point (counting this one.)

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And the wasp merely has developed instincts, plain instincts over time. Reproduction. Survival. The two most basic instincts there are.
You're dodging the real question like a demoncrap dodges a Godly draft..
Where would it get the idea to inject eggs into another living being?
Answer me, harlot!

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It is no different from the wasp ridden spiders. The spiders would have most probably had ample chance to mate BEFORE getting stung initially and implanted. Don't you ever think outside the square?
But before they were stung, no evilution could have taken place, as no "natural selection" would have taken place.
As such, any kind of "gene" would get passed on, not just "wasp resistant" ones..
And once stung, they have no chance of survival, nor mating.

Don't you ever think at all?



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I'm talking like I would actually recognise the existance of these "genes"..
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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 01-20-2007, 06:53 AM

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You're dodging the real question like a demoncrap dodges a Godly draft..
Where would it get the idea to inject eggs into another living being?
Answer me, harlot!
What I'm sure she won't say, is that these wasps were designed by God to paralyze spiders and lay eggs in them, so their little larvae could eat the spider alive as they grew, then burst out of it, much like the little critter in Alien.

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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 01-20-2007, 09:46 AM

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You're dodging the real question like a demoncrap dodges a Godly draft..
Where would it get the idea to inject eggs into another living being?
Answer me, harlot!
It is pure instinct, it has EVOLVED to develop that as a habit. It has clearly evolved with the instinct to ensure its young is cared for and provided nutrition. It doesn't think. Wasps don't THINK, they do things by instinct.

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But before they were stung, no evilution could have taken place, as no "natural selection" would have taken place.
As such, any kind of "gene" would get passed on, not just "wasp resistant" ones..
And once stung, they have no chance of survival, nor mating.
You've completely twisted the point upside down and inside out. The spiders en masse would exist as per normal. Mate, eat, weave web, whatever spiders do to occupy themselves all day. Now some of these spiders would get stung then infected. More than likely they would have already mated, already have young. All the sting would do is prevent them from mating AGAIN.
And the relationship between the wasp and the spider is clearly demonstrative of a behavior evolved over time.....that of host and parasite.

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I'm talking like I would actually recognise the existance of these "genes"..
Know I truly don't however, as the holy KJV1611 doesn't mention them.
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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 01-20-2007, 05:42 PM

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It is pure instinct, it has EVOLVED to develop that as a habit. It has clearly evolved with the instinct to ensure its young is cared for and provided nutrition. It doesn't think. Wasps don't THINK, they do things by instinct.
As a scientist, I think that I am far more qualified to determine why wasps do things and why they don't. And I can tell you for CERTAIN that they didn't "evolve" instincts. First you guys say that they evolve away some things, then, in the same breath, you say that they evolved insome things. Can't even get your story straight can you?! There is a simple answer to all this: Jesus tells these wasps what to do! There is your so-called "instinct"!


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It is pure instinct, it has EVOLVED to develop that as a habit. It has clearly evolved with the instinct to ensure its young is cared for and provided nutrition. It doesn't think. Wasps don't THINK, they do things by instinct.
Why would they devolop instincts to inject their eggs into spiders?
It doesn't make sense, and it isn't an advantage!
It's a disadvantage since the wasps has to rely on spiders for their survival.

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You've completely twisted the point upside down and inside out. The spiders en masse would exist as per normal. Mate, eat, weave web, whatever spiders do to occupy themselves all day. Now some of these spiders would get stung then infected. More than likely they would have already mated, already have young. All the sting would do is prevent them from mating AGAIN.
And just why would these spiders offsbring ever evolve resistance to wasp poison?
They might as well devolop poison vs the polarbears mentioned earlier..
You cannot have "evilution" without "natural selection", that is "survival of the fittest", even your own scientists say so.
And no natural selection has taken place whatsoever.

No spiders have ever become resistant to wasp poison and none never will, because evilution isn't true!

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And the relationship between the wasp and the spider is clearly demonstrative of a behavior evolved over time.....that of host and parasite
No it isn't, the behavior might have been created by an intelligent designer just as well. And it was!
The Holy Bible tells us that God created all things and so He did. Praise God!
Surely, He has made wasps to disprove silly ideas like evilution.

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To Bobby Joe, the Cain question. Why are you presenting me with an argument that supports evolution? Lol, obviously if the bible were true and we all descended from the one source, we'd all be very much inbred by now. The fact that we aren't, and that we have a very wide gene pool clearly shows that the bible is wrong.
A very wide what? The Holy KJV1611 doesn't recognise genes..
Also, you too believe all life comes from a single source!
The so-called "primordial soup" of "amino acids."
So we'd all been inbred if evilution and genetics were true!

So why aren't we? Because "genes" doesn't exist and evilution isn't true!!
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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 01-20-2007, 09:19 PM

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It is pure instinct, it has EVOLVED to develop that as a habit. It has clearly evolved with the instinct to ensure its young is cared for and provided nutrition. It doesn't think. Wasps don't THINK, they do things by instinct.
So does man. You think sex drive, greed, etc. are a choice? A thought out and consciously driven means of existence? You think people chose to be sad after careful diliberation? Ha! you are driven by nature. Driven like a car. Free will... choice... it's all an illusion.

Your sitting in the park, musing over how miserable the world is and some comformist jerks playing fag ball hit you with the pigskin. The pain triggers the emotion of anger because you are in a state of discontent. The emotion of anger influences your thoughts which are already purely self-righteous and egotisical. Based on your past experiences, upbringing, likes, dislikes, etc you'll react to the situation. You stand up, look over at those jerks, and shout obscenities. All this has happened without a single thought. No demonstration of free will is expressed. You never choose to be anger, you never decided to think those nasty thoughts about those fags playing fag ball. you never thought before you mouthed off. Mindless animals. Comformist simpletons so trapped in the clutches of the natural order. So convinced of your own self will, your own superiority to the other organisms that fill this world . Ha! You are no better than a roach. Suck on that, conformist.

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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 01-20-2007, 11:14 PM

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Well, I was rather sleep deprived at the time of my last post, thinking straight isn't easy. But the wasps actually support evolution more than they do intelligent design. Would a loving god create such an animal? No. Clearly, the wasp is an example of UN-intelligent design, and evolution in action when you think about it.

Wrong you idol worship harlot! God only loves us, not those luckless spiders He consigns to such a horrible, agonizing fate! Those spiders and wasps are a warning to you Rachael that is what life is like without Jesus; to be paralyzed from virtue, implanted by Satan with his demon seed and only having to look forward to having your soul devoured. Repent while you still can you filithy, blood spattered harlot!



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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 01-20-2007, 11:23 PM

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You've completely twisted the point upside down and inside out. The spiders en masse would exist as per normal. Mate, eat, weave web, whatever spiders do to occupy themselves all day. Now some of these spiders would get stung then infected. More than likely they would have already mated, already have young. All the sting would do is prevent them from mating AGAIN.
And those who hadn't been stung would be able to mate again. Thus they would have more offspring, and so there would be a better chance of their more numerous offspring being able to mate and pass on their "genes", as opposed to the fewer, weaker, non-wasp-resistant spiders. So over time, they would become the dominant breed, and the non-wasp-resistant spiders would die out. That's what'd happen if evilution made sense, but it hasn't, because it doesn't.

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And the relationship between the wasp and the spider is clearly demonstrative of a behavior evolved over time.....that of host and parasite.
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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 02-03-2007, 11:54 AM

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Why are no human ancestors mentioned in The Bible? The very fact that Neandertals, Homo-Erectuces are not mentioned in The Bible proves they are made up. I mean you would think God would have mentioned them 6,000 years ago when He wrote The Bible. duh.

Explain wasps with evolution. Wasp paralyze spiders and then implant their young in them to feed on living, but helpless insect. If evolution was true them spiders would have anti-wasp poison in their blood. But they don’t. The only way you can get such a horrific death as those countless spiders suffer is threw the power of God.

How could Cain could procreate with his sisters if evolution was true? If can was getting busy with his sister like The Bible relates then the human race should be a race of inbreed deformities like the English Royal Family. Instead we see the general population is healthy. This can only happen if Cain and his sister were of the pure first generation after Adam not corrupted by sins yet.

Face it Darwinist. You can't answere these simples questions so get down on your knees and accept Christ now.
Answer 1: Do you have any proof that the Bible is 100% correct?
Answer 2: Why would God hurt spiders. They didn't do anything wrong.
Answer 3: Do you have proof that he ever existed?
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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 02-03-2007, 12:02 PM

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Answer 1: Do you have any proof that the Bible is 100% correct?

Yes we do.

Answer 2: Why would God hurt spiders. They didn't do anything wrong.

God hurts, maims, squishes and even kills those He sees fit to hurt, maim, squish and kill. Including you, homer.

Answer 3: Do you have proof that he ever existed?

See #1

By the way, in America, Jesus' favorite country, we call them "questions". The part I did was the "answer".

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Question 1: Why do you hate God?

Question 2: Why do you hate Jesus?

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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 02-03-2007, 12:42 PM

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Question 1: Why do you hate God?

Question 2: Why do you hate Jesus?

Question 3: Why do you hate yourself?
I will answer your questions. I (and the dude) don't hate anyone. We are trying to make some people understand that they are wrong. You people hate everyone but yourself, God and Jezus. Explain ME why.
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I will answer your questions. I (and the dude) don't hate anyone. We are trying to make some people understand that they are wrong. You people hate everyone but yourself, God and Jezus. Explain ME why.
Exactly where is God wrong?


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Exactly where is God wrong?
It is possible that there is a God but i´m an evolutionist because the evolution theory is logic (and i don´t believe that there ever was something like the Flood.)
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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 02-03-2007, 12:51 PM

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Exactly where is God wrong?
I didn't mean that God is wrong and I don't say that your belief is wrong, I'm saying that hating the whole world is wrong.
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Default Re: Questions for Evolutionist to answer - 02-03-2007, 12:52 PM

Well, the Bible is a very wise book, with wise stories about wise people.
You can learn a lot from the Bible.

But it isn't written by God.
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