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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-04-2010, 06:21 PM

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So are oranges. I suppose you think oranges prove your conspiracy theory as well?

If God had made the world round, then he'd have made it possible to draw something with no edges on a piece of paper. The fact that He didn't consider it necessary to do so proves that He must have not created a spherical earth.

Eh? Are you sure that the planets orbit the sun?

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1: No, again you nutcases evade my point. A globe is a map of the earth, I suppose globes are the devils tools since obviously by your rules they defy you illogical flat-earth delusion?

2: That's simply retarded. The earth is round, proven time over and time over by science. Don't believe it? Go ahead, fly aROUND the world.

3: Yes actually, I know it to be true. If not for the suns gravitational pull we'd be floating aimlessly in cold space, with nothing to hold us in place.

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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-04-2010, 08:24 PM

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2: That's simply retarded. The earth is round, proven time over and time over by science. Don't believe it? Go ahead, fly aROUND the world.
You can go aROUND a piece of paper...





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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-04-2010, 09:19 PM

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1: No, again you nutcases evade my point. A globe is a map of the earth, I suppose globes are the devils tools since obviously by your rules they defy you illogical flat-earth delusion?
No, they're simply toys for children to help them exercise their imagination by dreaming of the nonsensical idea of a "round" world. Do you think that rabbits can talk?
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2: That's simply retarded. The earth is round, proven time over and time over by science. Don't believe it? Go ahead, fly aROUND the world.
So, you think that rabbits can talk, people can fly and the world is a sphere. I understand that secular biology is full of tosh and nonsense, but even you should be aware of the fact that people don't have wings.
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Eh? I thought that according to secular science, gravity was meant to be coming from the "centre" of the earth. Now you say it comes from the sun. I suppose next you'll be claiming that the sun goes around the moon next.


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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-04-2010, 11:02 PM

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The edges are located at the south pole. Just look at the map:

lol wow i get a kick out of you blind believers.

you're evidence is a flattened out image of a globe. Or did Australia just get realllllly skinny all of a sudden?

that's unspeakably, ridiculously, hilarious to me.

and no OP, you will never get a straight answer from these people.

g2g suck off Ted Haggard.

True story, my local priest just got arrested for child pornography..... add another one to the group of repressed pervs who should just get a playboy and whackoff instead of raping little kids.
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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-04-2010, 11:10 PM

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lol wow i get a kick out of you blind believers.
The consensus here is that you are the blind believer. You cling to some debunked theory even though all the evidence is to the contrary.

When people are trying to help you out, you are rude and hostile to them. That's really rude, friend.

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True story, my local priest just got arrested for child pornography..... add another one to the group of repressed pervs who should just get a playboy and whackoff instead of raping little kids.
Or he could become a Christian instead.

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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-04-2010, 11:19 PM

So is there any specific reason this thread is not in one of the many about the world being flat? Is the OP so very special that he can't be bothered reading one of those many threads?

I guess they're lucky I'm not a mod here. The rod would not be spared.


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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-05-2010, 04:25 AM

Someone please tell me these idiots are joking...
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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-05-2010, 04:31 AM

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Someone please tell me these idiots are joking...
Yes they are joking. Who would believe the earth is not flat.


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Someone please tell me these idiots are joking...
We are every bit as serious and truthful as the Bible itself, friend.


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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-06-2010, 10:37 AM

So I've been reading more and more in to this forum, and I have to say, you mormons surpass even my expectations of your run-of-the-mill religious nutjob.

When I ask a question you all ignore it, then put words in my mouth while pretending to be nice. Then, when I supply LOGICAL, PROVEN evidence that you are all completely and entirely wrong, you pretend it isn't there, supply no evidence to refute my point, and continue to simply quote the bible like an old piece of paper actually means anything more than you pretend it does.

I pity not only all of you, but your children as well since they will be raised in an abusive, misguided home that teaches nothing but lies, and gives your children a life of misery and pain that is your own fault.

I am content to walk away and allow you people to live pointless, unrewarding lives as close-minded monsters that attack not only people of other religions, but people of YOUR OWN religion as well. As a self-spoken Agnostic, born Jewish, I can safely say that yours is the most aggressive, frowned upon and mocked religion. Others of your kind are the only, the ONLY people who will accept your racist, cruel, and overly aggressive attacking views on everything that does not comply with you.

But let's try something new here for a second. I want you to explain to me in detail how earth is flat, and I will proceed to debunk, mock and pick apart all of your self-proclaimed "Evidence".

So really, go ahead, hit me with all of your falsified biblical knowledge.
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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-06-2010, 10:57 AM

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No, they're simply toys for children to help them exercise their imagination by dreaming of the nonsensical idea of a "round" world. Do you think that rabbits can talk?

So, you think that rabbits can talk, people can fly and the world is a sphere. I understand that secular biology is full of tosh and nonsense, but even you should be aware of the fact that people don't have wings.

Eh? I thought that according to secular science, gravity was meant to be coming from the "centre" of the earth. Now you say it comes from the sun. I suppose next you'll be claiming that the sun goes around the moon next.
Not only do you put words in my mouth, but you know nothing of actual science and still you try to talk about it in an intelligent manner.

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Gravitation keeps the planets in orbit around the Sun. (Not to scale)


Gravitation, or gravity, is one of the four fundamental interactions of nature (along with the strong force, electromagnetism and the weak force), in which objects with mass attract one another.[1] In everyday life, gravitation is most familiar as the agent that gives weight to objects with mass and causes them to fall to the ground when dropped. Gravitation causes dispersed matter to coalesce, thus accounting for the existence of the Earth, the Sun, and most of the macroscopic objects in the universe. Gravitation is responsible for keeping the Earth and the other planets in their orbits around the Sun; for keeping the Moon in its orbit around the Earth; for the formation of tides; for convection, by which fluid flow occurs under the influence of a density gradient and gravity; for heating the interiors of forming stars and planets to very high temperatures; and for various other phenomena observed on Earth."

Essentially gravity is an entropic force present in ALL things with mass. The sun being the thing with the most mass in our solar system exerts the greatest gravitational pull, keeping all planets in a constant ring around it. The earth exerts enough gravitational pull to keep the moon, and all satellites in an orbit around it. The moon exerts enough gravitational pull to keep satellites in orbit as well, though the pull of the earth is much greater than that of the moon, and much weaker than that of the the sun. The reason minor things on earth do not exert serious gravitational pull is because they are simply not dense enough, density/mass=gravitational pull.

Essentially, gravity is relevant to size, and everything on earth is too small to exert true gravitational pull.

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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-06-2010, 11:18 AM

Hastur, the reason some people ignore you is because of your infantile whining. When a child cries, it should either be disciplined or ignored. You don't give it food whenever it demands so.

Why would anyone bother to write an intelligent response, only to have it dismissed with arguments along the lines of "just cause, jee.. u so stoopid.. idito christunss!!!"

Because I'm a Christian, I will point out some areas of improvement:

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So I've been reading more and more in to this forum (buildup to how "shocked" you are. No one cares. It's a signal that you're going to write something really boring), and I have to say, you mormons surpass even my expectations of your run-of-the-mill religious nutjob. (oh, an insult... yawn... the rest is probably useless drivel too)

When I ask a question you all ignore it (well duh, you distract us with your barrage of insults to God!), then put words in my mouth while pretending to be nice (another accusation... boring...). Then, when I supply LOGICAL, PROVEN evidence (evidence isn't "logical" or "proven" by virtue of labels alone. Is this a competition of who can use such words with the most emphasis??) that you are all completely and entirely wrong (yep, if something conflicts with your pre-conceived notions, it MUST be because God is wrong), you pretend it isn't there (oh, like you're pretending our proof is irrational nonsense?), supply no evidence to refute my point (there are several threads that each address every single point, try to READ), and continue to simply quote the bible like an old piece of paper actually means anything more than you pretend it does (so you go to a True Christian forum and DEMAND that we dismiss the Bible? Sure, Ms. Entitlement, whatever you COMMAND us to do... sheesh!)

I pity not only all of you (ad hominem attack... is that your idea of logic?), but your children as well (sure, attack our children too) since they will be raised in an abusive, misguided home that teaches nothing but lies (and also attack our parenting skills and those of our parents and grandparents...), and gives your children a life of misery and pain that is your own fault (our children are very happy, but thank you for speaking ON THEIR BEHALF like you're God).

I am content to walk away (that's the "mature" way to deal with an argument, I guess...) and allow you people to live pointless, unrewarding lives (yeah, because YOU decide who gets to live and who doesn't. Should we call YOU God?) as close-minded monsters that attack not only people of other religions, but people of YOUR OWN religion as well (we don't attack anyone, we just talk on our PRIVATE forum. You guys come barging in here with your demands) . As a self-spoken Agnostic, born Jewish, I can safely say that yours is the most aggressive, frowned upon and mocked religion (So? Jews are frowned upon, mocked and distrusted.... will that stop you from being joo?). Others of your kind are the only, the ONLY people who will accept your racist, cruel, and overly aggressive attacking views on everything that does not comply with you (this lecture is getting a bit long, isn't it... frustrated much).
Wow, so that was a long bitter litany of insults that includes the core of our beliefs, our children, our entire family history and so on. But hey, let's just shrug all that off, because Hastur HAS A QUESTION!

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But let's try something new here for a second. I want you to explain to me in detail how earth is flat, and I will proceed to debunk, mock and pick apart all of your self-proclaimed "Evidence".
You just said you wanted to walk away. Why should we spend time trying to educate you when you'll just mock us and walk away? That's not logical. It seems like you're trying to waste our time on purpose. We shall not be tricked, Devil!

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So really, go ahead, hit me with all of your falsified biblical knowledge.
No. I'm not going to waste time talking to a bigot.


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Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-06-2010, 11:32 AM

In picking apart my post in a way that made no sense relevant to what I said, you also managed to successfully avoid actually paying attention to the evidence supplied, while still supplying none of your own. This does nothing but confirm my belief that no logic, or sense will be hard here.
If I had a god to pray to, I would ask him/her/it to open up your simple minds just a little.
I honestly didn't expect to change any lives in coming here, it's just an entertaining way to waste time. I guess if you're all content enough to lead a life I can only describe as both fruitless in self-happiness and entirely self-destructive, then I should be proper and content living my own life, which although I cannot truthfully compare to any of yours, I can certainly say I find it much more satisfying.

If there is one parting message I would leave, since although I stated my being content to walk away, though never saying it was the action I intended to carry out, it is that I will now do so.

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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-06-2010, 12:05 PM

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In picking apart my post in a way that made no sense relevant to what I said, you also managed to successfully avoid actually paying attention to the evidence supplied, while still supplying none of your own. This does nothing but confirm my belief that no logic, or sense will be hard here.
If I had a god to pray to, I would ask him/her/it to open up your simple minds just a little.
I honestly didn't expect to change any lives in coming here, it's just an entertaining way to waste time. I guess if you're all content enough to lead a life I can only describe as both fruitless in self-happiness and entirely self-destructive, then I should be proper and content living my own life, which although I cannot truthfully compare to any of yours, I can certainly say I find it much more satisfying.

If there is one parting message I would leave, since although I stated my being content to walk away, though never saying it was the action I intended to carry out, it is that I will now do so.

Yours truly, Ḩ̻͎a̳̟̩̺͔͜͟s͙̰̼̝̖̣͎̝t̡́҉͓͕̦̯͈̤͈̘ų̢̖͈̳̹͎̳̖r̶̹̝ ̮͎̫
Consider this as you leave....Think about it before you take "cheap shots" at the Godly people here:
1 Corinthians 6:6 ( King James Version)

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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-06-2010, 12:21 PM

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In picking apart my post in a way that made no sense relevant to what I said,
I showed that 70-80% of your post consisted of nothing more than vacuous observations and insults that aren't relevant to the matter at hand.

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I honestly didn't expect to change any lives in coming here, it's just an entertaining way to waste time. I guess if you're all content enough to lead a life I can only describe as both fruitless in self-happiness and entirely self-destructive, then I should be proper and content living my own life, which although I cannot truthfully compare to any of yours, I can certainly say I find it much more satisfying.

And there you go again with the insults..........

Basically, your argument can be summarized as "you are stupid, so I'm right".

Instead of persecuting Christians, why not spend a few minutes learning about rational discourse and fallacies? Then you'd know that your barrage of ad-hominems are false reasoning.

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Oki, thanks for your persecution and all the fish!


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Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-06-2010, 05:30 PM

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So I've been reading more and more in to this forum, and I have to say, you mormons surpass even my expectations of your run-of-the-mill religious nutjob.

When I ask a question you all ignore it, then put words in my mouth while pretending to be nice. Then, when I supply LOGICAL, PROVEN evidence that you are all completely and entirely wrong, you pretend it isn't there, supply no evidence to refute my point, and continue to simply quote the bible like an old piece of paper actually means anything more than you pretend it does.

I pity not only all of you, but your children as well since they will be raised in an abusive, misguided home that teaches nothing but lies, and gives your children a life of misery and pain that is your own fault.

I am content to walk away and allow you people to live pointless, unrewarding lives as close-minded monsters that attack not only people of other religions, but people of YOUR OWN religion as well. As a self-spoken Agnostic, born Jewish, I can safely say that yours is the most aggressive, frowned upon and mocked religion. Others of your kind are the only, the ONLY people who will accept your racist, cruel, and overly aggressive attacking views on everything that does not comply with you.

But let's try something new here for a second. I want you to explain to me in detail how earth is flat, and I will proceed to debunk, mock and pick apart all of your self-proclaimed "Evidence".

So really, go ahead, hit me with all of your falsified biblical knowledge.
You seem like a nice person, you just have some issues. Why not try anger management?
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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-07-2010, 02:07 AM

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I honestly didn't expect to change any lives in coming here, it's just an entertaining way to waste time.
Really, absolutely nothing else to do? You can't go work in a soup kitchen, read to blind people, walk an SPCA dog. You're just too good to do such things? Or are you out of school and your parents think the computer is a good babysitter.


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How do you know if we're happy? If we aren't rolling in carnal sin we must be miserable? Well I can tell you I live a good Christian life and I'm very happy. I doubt you know the happiness of giving birth to a child, or watching it grow up. The pride in achieving awards for hard effort. No, unfortunately your generation has been robbed with this "everybody is special". Why bother to achieve when standing out is frowned on.

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Your kind always say you're leaving, yet you never do

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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-07-2010, 06:54 PM

HA HA HA.. You guys are dumb.. The bible was made to control society in the days when there was no control the days where they werent as smart and thought the world was really flat. They had to threatin you with shit like going to Hell and gettting raped by big demon dick and crap when really its all a joke we found out after we got smarter from Evolution and adapted are ideas to what is true and forgot about all this old age nonsense that aint which u are all stuck on becouse you guys are so freaking dumb u cant adapt and evolve.. just thing what happaned to all the animals that didnt evolve they all died leaving the smarter ones alive.. so live in the past who gives a shit you'll all die off soon and we wont have to put up with any of your bull shit like this.
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Default Re: If the Earth is flat... - 07-07-2010, 07:07 PM

Well shit you guys cant die off i forgot you guys mass reporduce in piffle farms to keep your bull shit alive.
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