[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by Xanax

The Bible talks about "mysteries" and these are things that our human minds cannot comprehend or things that have not been revealed to us. If you read the Bible you will understand this. Job 11:7-8, “Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty? 8 They are higher than the heavens above—what can you do? They are deeper than the depths below—what can you know? "

Thank you for your answer. Yes, I agree that the Bible is filled with mysteries which we cannot comprehend with our weak rational minds, and their acceptance is the measure of our faith. The Bible says life on Earth was created in six days, while science points to millions of years. The Bible describes unicorns as real creatures. The Bible talks about a virgin giving birth. The Bible talks about pillars supporting foundations of the Earth. The Bible talks about a single God who is Three at the same time.

Accepting these things, which are contradictory to empirical evidence, is the test of our faith. These are the mysteries of the Bible which we cannot comprehend with our minds limited by rational thinking.

On the other hand, there are things in the Bible which are not so mysterious. These are rules according to which we have to live our lives in order to be Saved. That, like it ir not, includes women submitting to their husbands. There's nothing mysterious about it.

If we understand basic English, one would know that the Bible is referring to mankind when it says that man was created in the image of God. We read this in Genesis 5:1-2, "This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created." Here we see that he called male and female Adam, referring to mankind.

Let me get this straight: are you saying that God is androgenous? That He is not a He but some sort of fluid gender trannie He/She?

If this is what you think, then you are hovering dangerously close to blasphemy. I will pray that God may forgive you.

If, on the other hand, you agree with me that God created Adam, not Eve, in His Image, you will also agree that God is a He. Not some sort of gender fluid non-binary non-cis whatever new names they come up with every single day.

Love has every thing to do with it. Husbands are suppose to love their wives as Christ loved the Church and gave His life for the Church.

Yes. Jesus loves us so much that He will condemn us to burn in Hell forever if we offend Him in one single point (James 2:10).

And I agree, husbands also should be vengeful towards their wives who offend them in a single point (e.g., the soup was too salty). That's what the Christian Domestic Discipline is all about.

This kind of Agape love is not the same kind of love as you are implying. If men are suppose to love their wives as Christ loved the Church, how much should men sacrifice themselves for their wives as Christ sacrificed Himself.

Men do sacrifice themselves every day. They listen (or at least pretend to listen) to their wives meaningless chatter and endless whining. That's a sacrifice, just like Jesus' temporary death! On a smaller scale, of course, because men have limited lives while Jesus is an eternal being, so the sacrifices made have to be accordingly smaller.

It is a two way relationship. As the Bible says the two become one flesh. If they become one flesh, does this not imply equality if they are viewed as one.

So to clarify, for you, SUBMISSION = EQUALITY?

Here are the verses again for your reference:

Ephesians 5:22-24
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.