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Thumbs up Ceausescu's Romania shows pro-life policy works - 03-28-2011, 08:00 AM

Liberals have claimed that pro-life policies don't work, that back-alley and clothes-hanger abortions will increase (ignoring that we can also ban clotheshangers etc.). What liberals don't understand is that pro-life policies have been tried, and they worked, in a pro-life paradise that was Romania under the rule of Nicolae Ceaușescu:

From http://countrystudies.us/romania/37.htm:

"...the penal code was revised to provide penalties for those who sought or performed illegal abortions.

Other punitive policies were introduced. Men and women who remained childless after the age of twenty-five, whether married or single, were liable for a special tax amounting to between 10 and 20 percent of their income. The government also targeted the rising divorce rates and made divorce much more difficult....only 28 divorces were allowed nationwide in 1967, compared with 26,000 the preceding year....
Because contraceptives were not manufactured in Romania, and all legal importation of them had stopped, the sudden unavailability of abortion made birth control extremely difficult. Sex had traditionally been a taboo subject, and sex education, even in the 1980s, was practically nonexistent. Consequently the pronatalist policies had an immediate impact, with the number of live births rising from 273,687 in 1966 to 527,764 in 1967--an increase of 92.8 percent. Legal abortions fell just as dramatically with only 52,000 performed in 1967 as compared to more than 1 million in 1965. This success was due in part to the presence of police in hospitals...

...In 1984 the legal age for marriage was lowered to fifteen years for women, and additional taxes were levied on childless individuals over twenty-five years of age. Monthly gynecological examinations for all women of childbearing age were instituted, even for pubescent girls, to identify pregnancies in the earliest stages and to monitor pregnant women to ensure that their pregnancies came to term. Miscarriages were to be investigated...

Doctors and nurses involved in gynecology came under increasing pressure, especially after 1985, when "demographic command units" were set up to ensure that all women were gynecologically examined at their place of work. These units not only monitored pregnancies and ensured deliveries but also investigated childless women and couples, asked detailed questions about their sex lives and the general health of their reproductive systems...



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Default Re: Ceausescu's Romania shows pro-life policy works - 03-28-2011, 08:47 AM

Well, even though it smacks of government intervention, and who knows who the Romanians worship (Dracula?), these are policies any True Christian can get behind. I'm pretty sure most of us are living that way anyway. Personally I'm devoted to the Lord, and haven't had any need to find a wife or have children, but honestly, a %10 tax compared to all of the money I'm saving is pretty reasonable, if it goes to something like supporting the military, or those exams the article mentions.
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Default Re: Ceausescu's Romania shows pro-life policy works - 03-28-2011, 11:18 AM

You're kidding me, right? Did you even read the whole article you quoted from, or are you intentionally trying to mislead people?!

Quoting from the same article:

"The increase in live births was short-lived...

Although government expenditures on material incentives rose by 470 percent between 1967 and 1983, the birthrate actually decreased during that time by 40 percent. After 1983, despite the extreme measures taken by the regime to combat the decline, there was only a slight increase, from 14.3 to 15.5 per 1,000 in 1984 and 16 per 1,000 in 1985. After more than two decades of draconian anti- abortion regulation and expenditures for material incentives that by 1985 equalled half the amount budgeted for defense, Romanian birthrates were only a fraction higher than those rates in countries permitting abortion on demand...

Romanian demographic policies continued to be unsuccessful...

In 1989 abortion remained the only means of fertility control available to an increasingly desperate population. The number of quasi-legal abortions continued to rise, as women resorted to whatever means necessary to secure permission for the procedure. Women who failed to get official approval were forced to seek illegal abortions, which could be had for a carton of Kent cigarettes....

...The new approach, like previous attempts, met with little success..."
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Default Re: Ceausescu's Romania shows pro-life policy works - 03-28-2011, 12:15 PM

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illegal abortions, which could be had for a carton of Kent cigarettes....
What! Godly American Cigarettes™ were used as an item of barter for killing babies?

How could this have happened?

I thought the tobacco companies kept tighter control on their products. I'm just heartbroken.


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Default Re: Ceausescu's Romania shows pro-life policy works - 03-28-2011, 12:35 PM

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Liberals have claimed that pro-life policies don't work, that back-alley and clothes-hanger abortions will increase (ignoring that we can also ban clotheshangers etc.).
Banning clotheshangers sounds like a good idea, as long as they can be replaced with this one:

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Default Re: Ceausescu's Romania shows pro-life policy works - 03-28-2011, 09:48 PM

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Says beneath her name she's an atheist, and believes she was born from monkeys, so really, who can trust the meaningless ramblings of someone who doesn't have sense enough to believe in The Lord and eats bananas (like a homosexual) and flings their own feces around (excuse my language).
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Default Re: Ceausescu's Romania shows pro-life policy works - 03-29-2011, 01:48 AM

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Says beneath her name she's an atheist, and believes she was born from monkeys, so really, who can trust the meaningless ramblings of someone who doesn't have sense enough to believe in The Lord and eats bananas (like a homosexual) and flings their own feces around (excuse my language).
While I'm sure she does indeed fling her feces about her home, why would you think only homosexuals eat bananas?

Surely you aren't suggesting Kirk Cameroon and Ray Comfort are gayboys, are you?



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Default Re: Ceausescu's Romania shows pro-life policy works - 02-20-2012, 03:55 AM

Of course the anti-life liberals call this a "fail", but it proves that Romanian pro-life policy works!



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Default Re: Ceausescu's Romania shows pro-life policy works - 02-27-2012, 11:54 PM

I wonder if Romania would have had better success in increasing its birthrate by offering tax incentives for having children, the way we do in America?


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