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Default Re: PREGNANCY through RAPE is a gift from GOD!! - 03-11-2012, 07:56 PM

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All four of the current Republican Presidential candidates, who believe that abortion should not be permitted, even in cases of rape or incest.

Granted, #2 Rick Santorum is the most vocal of that position, but all four do share it. Even So-Often-Wrong Paul.

Of course rape is bad.

However, the baby resulting from the rape isn't bad. The pregnancy has only occurred because God allowed it to occur; He could easily have caused a failure to ovulate, or a failed fertilization, or spontaneous miscarriage. If He did not, it means He wants the woman to bear that child . . . which is a gift from Him!

So how can we possibly allow abortion in cases of rape or incest, when God has decided that the pregnancy should occur?
Thank you! You are the first person who is actually trying to help me understand. I really appreciate it. The child being born is a marvelous gift! I do agree! I agree even more when you say that "If He does not, it means He wants the woman to bear that child." However, could you please help me understand why some people on here make rape seem like it's the woman's fault, or etc. I mean sometimes it is the woman's fault, but it's not all the time like people are making it seem. Why do some people make rape seem like... a light hearted situation? I really don't understand. Thank you so much for you competence though! I mean, if you haven't seen my profile then you might want to look again before answering. I must be a pretty bad person.


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Default Re: PREGNANCY through RAPE is a gift from GOD!! - 03-12-2012, 07:43 AM

I'm glad we agree there are some cases where its the woman's fault. It gives us a place to start.

There is a case where its not, I agree. And the Bible lays that out for us:

Deuteronomy 22:25-27

25But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die:
26But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; [there is] in the damsel no sin [worthy] of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so [is] this matter:
27For he found her in the field, [and] the betrothed damsel cried, and [there was] none to save her.

That is to say, if an engaged girl is raped in a field then its not her fault.

If an engaged girl is raped in the city, though, she is put to death along with her rapist. (There's a long discussion elsewhere about rape of unengaged girls and I won't retread that ground.)

Why's that? Why put her to death? Well Deuteronomy 22:24 tells us:

24Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, [being] in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.

In short, being in the city someone would have heard her if she'd shouted out. Therefore she didn't, therefore she didn't want it to stop, therefore slut. With me?

People here don't think rape is a lighthearted situation. We think its deadly serious. However, we accept that its largely the woman's fault. We were the ones who got everyone kicked out of paradise, after all?

I'm not saying we should follow the Muslims at all, but think of their burkas. How often do you imagine they get raped? Not at all - there's nothing there to inflame lust. But if I go teetering down the street on six inch heels and a two inch skirt then I'm making myself a sex object and I really can't complain all that loudly when I'm treated as such can I.

Does that make sense?
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Default Re: PREGNANCY through RAPE is a gift from GOD!! - 03-12-2012, 05:45 PM

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I'm glad we agree there are some cases where its the woman's fault. It gives us a place to start.

There is a case where its not, I agree. And the Bible lays that out for us:

Deuteronomy 22:25-27

25But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die:
26But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; [there is] in the damsel no sin [worthy] of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so [is] this matter:
27For he found her in the field, [and] the betrothed damsel cried, and [there was] none to save her.

That is to say, if an engaged girl is raped in a field then its not her fault.

If an engaged girl is raped in the city, though, she is put to death along with her rapist. (There's a long discussion elsewhere about rape of unengaged girls and I won't retread that ground.)

Why's that? Why put her to death? Well Deuteronomy 22:24 tells us:

24Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, [being] in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.

In short, being in the city someone would have heard her if she'd shouted out. Therefore she didn't, therefore she didn't want it to stop, therefore slut. With me?

People here don't think rape is a lighthearted situation. We think its deadly serious. However, we accept that its largely the woman's fault. We were the ones who got everyone kicked out of paradise, after all?

I'm not saying we should follow the Muslims at all, but think of their burkas. How often do you imagine they get raped? Not at all - there's nothing there to inflame lust. But if I go teetering down the street on six inch heels and a two inch skirt then I'm making myself a sex object and I really can't complain all that loudly when I'm treated as such can I.

Does that make sense?
You really are wasting your time trying logic and Godly attitudes with feminazis. They think if they walked down the street naked people would still have no right to call them sluts and asking for it.



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Default Re: PREGNANCY through RAPE is a gift from GOD!! - 03-12-2012, 09:16 PM

I guess you're right. I'm too soft hearted with the hellbound - it is a real problem. Managing the balance between compassion and biblically commanded hatred.

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Default Re: PREGNANCY through RAPE is a gift from GOD!! - 03-18-2012, 02:43 AM

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Rape is a gift from God if it gets you pregnant.

That's the wording I prefer.
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I have never heard of an anal rape resulting in pregnancy.

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Default Re: PREGNANCY through RAPE is a gift from GOD!! - 03-18-2012, 03:10 AM

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Default Re: PREGNANCY through RAPE is a gift from GOD!! - 03-18-2012, 08:14 AM

It's not god saying that people deserve it. It's inconsiderate mindless, arrogant, untaught, druggies and pedofiles that do this! He put us here! Our actions not reflect anything he would wish


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It's not god saying that people deserve it. It's inconsiderate mindless, arrogant, untaught, druggies and pedofiles that do this! He put us here! Our actions not reflect anything he would wish
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Default Re: PREGNANCY through RAPE is a gift from GOD!! - 03-18-2012, 08:40 AM

No it's a forum for people to bitch about separation, Abolishment, and destruction of any logical sense. Making sure that anyone who dose not agree with anyone on this blind as a bat forum is considered "trash". Nice guess but I think you're Reading too much bible and not looking at a bigger picture for the world. I mean AT ALL! Homos are not bad people. in fact our scientific name is "homosapien" meaning "human" So you're insulting yourself too. also god just puts us here. our action as people make where we shall go. Most of you support hate and abolishment of things you rarely understand. You think ideals are bad but it's what keep all of us protected. I support anyone. To hate breeds bigotry and hate, two sins you overlook. It's unfair and unjust! I'm putting my big fat foot down on it too! I hate you not but i think you are misguided by what it means to be pure of heart, and i blame people that put ideas in your head for you. god makes good points. he tries to make us conform to make better peace. this forum these sites cause a lot of this kind of hate. In my opinion god loves every man, woman, and child. He has blessed each one with life. But some people believe it's voodoo from the devil that turns you gay, or conspiracies about the air, the candy we eat, or any other thing that seems colorful and nice. Bronies go to church with good morals, skittles come off the line from being processed with sugar, not evil and the copy paste of the handkerchief laws. i think the only pure hearted people are unified christians. they don't care about what you are or who you are. they get the message of love. and love is the world greatest asset. it's what helped you discover this man you praise, and by god i think love should be more thought of in this forum. I don't hate any of you. I just mock how silly you all are. to put up fists when people only want peace. We all live under one sky one earth and galaxy. that was put there for us why fight over it? we all go to the same destination anyway if we learn better. So why fight over being gay, or candy, things that don't need explaining? i think it's because you've read the bible and you took its words out of context. No one deserves to rot for an opinion. they deserve to rot for hurting someone they love, or cared for deeply. that is my moral and I'm sticking to it! no reason to hate something you don't understand, just understand it better!


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Is that your opinion or God's?

You seem to know a lot about God, friend, that He hasn't shared with the rest of us.



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Default Re: PREGNANCY through RAPE is a gift from GOD!! - 03-18-2012, 11:32 AM

All I gathered from your poorly thought out wall of text is that you think you know better than God

God gave us the Bible (KJV1611) so we would KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE THINKS!!!

Not some pansy arse liberal softly softly version that misses the fact the queers should be killed (Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them) or that murderers and the idolatrous and wizards will go to the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death).

You may think it funny to mock our beleifs and to mock God by ignoring the bits of GOD'S WORD you find dificult may work to keep your conscience nice and cozy in your make believe world but we follow God's word TO THE LETTER, oh yes!

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Default Re: PREGNANCY through RAPE is a gift from GOD!! - 03-18-2012, 05:00 PM

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No it's a forum for people to bitch about separation, Abolishment, and destruction of any logical sense. Making sure that anyone who dose not agree with anyone on this blind as a bat forum is considered "trash". Nice guess but I think you're Reading too much bible and not looking at a bigger picture for the world. I mean AT ALL! Homos are not bad people. in fact our scientific name is "homosapien" meaning "human" So you're insulting yourself too. also god just puts us here. our action as people make where we shall go. Most of you support hate and abolishment of things you rarely understand. You think ideals are bad but it's what keep all of us protected. I support anyone. To hate breeds bigotry and hate, two sins you overlook. It's unfair and unjust! I'm putting my big fat foot down on it too! I hate you not but i think you are misguided by what it means to be pure of heart, and i blame people that put ideas in your head for you. god makes good points. he tries to make us conform to make better peace. this forum these sites cause a lot of this kind of hate. In my opinion god loves every man, woman, and child. He has blessed each one with life. But some people believe it's voodoo from the devil that turns you gay, or conspiracies about the air, the candy we eat, or any other thing that seems colorful and nice. Bronies go to church with good morals, skittles come off the line from being processed with sugar, not evil and the copy paste of the handkerchief laws. i think the only pure hearted people are unified christians. they don't care about what you are or who you are. they get the message of love. and love is the world greatest asset. it's what helped you discover this man you praise, and by god i think love should be more thought of in this forum. I don't hate any of you. I just mock how silly you all are. to put up fists when people only want peace. We all live under one sky one earth and galaxy. that was put there for us why fight over it? we all go to the same destination anyway if we learn better. So why fight over being gay, or candy, things that don't need explaining? i think it's because you've read the bible and you took its words out of context. No one deserves to rot for an opinion. they deserve to rot for hurting someone they love, or cared for deeply. that is my moral and I'm sticking to it! no reason to hate something you don't understand, just understand it better!
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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: PREGNANCY through RAPE is a gift from GOD!! - 03-19-2012, 12:21 PM

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I have never heard of an anal rape resulting in pregnancy.

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What about Mohammed, Mr Jenkins? I thought he was born from an anus. Or was that Siddhartha? But perhaps it was an armpit — I always get them confused..
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Default Re: PREGNANCY through RAPE is a gift from GOD!! - 03-23-2012, 03:38 AM

You said that 99% of the time is is the girl's fault for getting raped. I have to disagree. I believe the they are 100% to blame.

Some may extremely offended by the image in this link, so be warned.

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As you can see, they are basically naked, swearing leg revealing shorts, tight tank tops and even flip flops. What do they expect to happen when they walk around in public like little sex addict whores, acting all cute to attract attention.

Rape is not a gift to girls like that, but an harsh but needed punishment from the Lord.


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Default Re: PREGNANCY through RAPE is a gift from GOD!! - 03-23-2012, 03:41 AM

Last time I checked, rape was physically abusive to anybody. But when it comes to women getting pregnant after she is raped, it'll be called a sin.
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Default Re: PREGNANCY through RAPE is a gift from GOD!! - 03-23-2012, 03:46 AM

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But when it comes to women getting pregnant after she is raped, it'll be called a sin.
Please post the Scripture that backs up your claim. I am unfamiliar with it.


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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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What about Mohammed, Mr Jenkins? I thought he was born from an anus.
Yes, but that was a pig's anus.


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