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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
10-17-2010, 12:54 PM
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so let me get this straight.God made men stronger so they can rape women?right
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Men are stronger, both physically and mentally. Because of this, women are inferior. Now, if you'd of read the words that cam before this, you'd see why rape is not always the mans fault. Just like the Devil, women use their wiles on a man to seduce him into committing acts against his free will. As everyone knows, free will is a gift from God and is not to be abused. So these evil women not only rape men but they defile a gift of from God. Deplorable!
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Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
10-25-2010, 01:38 PM
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The rapist is NOT the victim. The rapist is a criminal. No one forced him to whip out his johnson.
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I agree. How can the criminal be a victim? The girl is the only victim here. And if she will have the kid, the kid won`t be loved, cause it`s made by raping, not love.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
10-26-2010, 01:07 AM
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I agree. How can the criminal be a victim? The girl is the only victim here. And if she will have the kid, the kid won`t be loved, cause it`s made by raping, not love.
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It is not rape unless there is four witness. The victim is the man because she cannot call the four witnesses. The woman will be punished according to Allah's will.
You have lost your way with Allah (pigs be upon him). Jinnye read the following Sura's from The Holy Quran to help in your understanding.
SURA 4.
15. And as for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women, call to witnesses against them four [witnesses] from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them.
16. And as for the two who are guilty of indecency from among you, give them both a punishment; then if they repent and amend, turn aside from them; surely Allah is Oft-returning [to mercy], the Merciful.
SURA 24.
2. [As for] the fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them, [giving] a hundred stripes, and let not pity for them detain you in the matter of obedience to Allah, if you believe in Allah and the last day, and let a party of believers witness their chastisement.
3. The fornicator shall not marry any but a fornicatress or idolatress, and [as for] the fornicatress, none shall marry her but a fornicator or an idolater; and it is forbidden to the believers.
4. And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, flog them, [giving] eighty stripes, and do not admit any evidence from them ever; and these it is that are the transgressors,
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2. All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.
3. The Beneficent, the Merciful.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
10-26-2010, 01:16 AM
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It is not rape unless there is four witness. The victim is the man because she cannot call the four witnesses. The woman will be punished according to Allah's will.
You have lost your way with Allah (pigs be upon him). Jinnye read the following Sura's from The Holy Quran to help in your understanding.
SURA 4.
15. And as for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women, call to witnesses against them four [witnesses] from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them.
16. And as for the two who are guilty of indecency from among you, give them both a punishment; then if they repent and amend, turn aside from them; surely Allah is Oft-returning [to mercy], the Merciful.
SURA 24.
2. [As for] the fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them, [giving] a hundred stripes, and let not pity for them detain you in the matter of obedience to Allah, if you believe in Allah and the last day, and let a party of believers witness their chastisement.
3. The fornicator shall not marry any but a fornicatress or idolatress, and [as for] the fornicatress, none shall marry her but a fornicator or an idolater; and it is forbidden to the believers.
4. And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, flog them, [giving] eighty stripes, and do not admit any evidence from them ever; and these it is that are the transgressors,
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So this is why Islam has no rapes, the only way you're going to get 4 witnesses is in a gang-rape situation, and which 4 out of the group are going to squeal on the others?
No the Bible is very clear about this.
Raped out in the country and screams ~ Girl is innocent
Raped in the city and doesn't scream ~ Girl is guilty
Girl is raped and not betrothed, she marries her rapist.
It's all found in Deuteronomy 22
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
10-26-2010, 01:19 AM
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I agree. How can the criminal be a victim? The girl is the only victim here. And if she will have the kid, the kid won`t be loved, cause it`s made by raping, not love.
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Who cares what you think? We follow the Holy Word of God, not random feminazis who barge into our Christian forum unwelcomed.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
10-26-2010, 01:38 AM
You know, when my grandmother was 16, her parents let her eventual husband get a look at her. She was told not to look at him, of course.
Her father asked the guy a few questions, which he answered with lies, but other than that, the men settled things between themselves which is correct in God's Eyes.
My grandmother didn't get any say. The women in the Bible don't get any say. Marriage is too important a matter to be left in the hands of women, who have little authority as per God's directive.
If a girl refuses to obey her father and marry that man he gives her to, regardless of the circumstances, they should deny her a few meals, lace her toothpaste or whatever with a mild sedative and walk her up the aisle with a strong arm at her back. The father can then hold the daughter's hand as she signs the license. Done deal.
My grandmother had 12 children and supported them with a sewing business. She paid for the shoes that my grandfather made for them and endured regular beatings while cooking delicious meals. She was a woman who knew how to OBEY.
Today's women could learn much from her.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
10-27-2010, 08:06 AM
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I agree. How can the criminal be a victim? The girl is the only victim here. And if she will have the kid, the kid won`t be loved, cause it`s made by raping, not love.
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The girl shouldnt have tried to tempt him as a vile succubus in the first place then.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
10-27-2010, 12:07 PM
I must admit I am curious on something here. It is clearly written on what is to be done when a girl is raped. What if the woman agrees to abide by word of God and marry her rapist but the rapist refuses or disappears to where he can not be found? What becomes of the woman? Is she to remain unmarried? Allowed to be betrothed to another?
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
10-27-2010, 05:31 PM
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I must admit I am curious on something here. It is clearly written on what is to be done when a girl is raped. What if the woman agrees to abide by word of God and marry her rapist but the rapist refuses or disappears to where he can not be found? What becomes of the woman? Is she to remain unmarried? Allowed to be betrothed to another?
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She IS still married. You can't be "unmarried" unless you divorce, which GOD really hates big time.
I think this verse explains what should happen to such a woman. It is obvious that if the rapist runs off then she has done something to annoy him, probably like speaking over him or some other unGodly action - enough to drive any man crazy. The Bible is clear, the troublesome mischievous whore must be stoned to death.
Deuteronomy 22:13
If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate.... But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
10-27-2010, 11:32 PM
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She IS still married. You can't be "unmarried" unless you divorce, which GOD really hates big time.
I think this verse explains what should happen to such a woman. It is obvious that if the rapist runs off then she has done something to annoy him, probably like speaking over him or some other unGodly action - enough to drive any man crazy. The Bible is clear, the troublesome mischievous whore must be stoned to death.
Deuteronomy 22:13
If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate.... But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
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Unfortunately I think you may not fully have understood the situation in my question. First off, you said that the woman is married. Is it the rape that makes her married? As far as I am aware it is not one in the same but that the rape requires marriage. And when it comes to the rapist I am referrig to an already unGodly man that refuses to marry because he is not a Christian and does not believe in God; but the woman does. She did not provoke the rape, but is still abiding the word of God and trying to follow his word but being denied that ability.What is to be done?
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
10-29-2010, 08:01 PM
She is doing the right thing. The only advice you should give her is teach her how to cut his knackers off so he can't hurt another poor girl again.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
10-29-2010, 08:33 PM
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She is doing the right thing. The only advice you should give her is teach her how to cut his knackers off so he can't hurt another poor girl again.
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I cannot believe you, of all people, are posting in this thread. A harlot and self admitted whore, giving advice and opinion about rape.
That is what the police should do with 'Aaron'. A nigra living in sin with a weak minded girl. It is illegal for him to be doing what he is doing. I think a call to the officials in Kingston Upon Hull is in order.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
11-19-2010, 11:16 PM
Are you people INSANE!??!?! She has ever right to not want to marry a man who forced himself onto her AGENTS HER WILL. This is twisted and disgusting, I feel so sorry for that poor girl to be trapped with horrible people like you.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
11-19-2010, 11:31 PM
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Are you people INSANE!??!?! She has ever right to not want to marry a man who forced himself onto her AGENTS HER WILL. This is twisted and disgusting, I feel so sorry for that poor girl to be trapped with horrible people like you.
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This started 2 years ago, from what I understand (somewhere around page 30) they did get married and have children now.
Anyway, how can you say something that is Biblically correct is wrong.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
11-20-2010, 01:07 AM
So what dowery is the father getting form her rapist?
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
11-20-2010, 01:12 AM
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So what dowery is the father getting form her rapist?
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The Biblically correct amount, 50 sheckels. I think a goat was thrown in as a deal sweetener.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
11-20-2010, 01:12 AM
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So what dowery is the father getting form her rapist?
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Money. God wants us to punish the rapist by forcing him to marry the girl he raped and having him pay money to the father of the girl.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
11-20-2010, 04:28 AM
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Money. God wants us to punish the rapist by forcing him to marry the girl he raped and having him pay money to the father of the girl.
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Everybody skips over one of the worse punishments for the rapist. In the eyes of our Lord he loses the RIGHT, given males in the Bible, to divorce this woman, no matter how discontented he is with the situation.
1 Chronicles 16:15
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
11-20-2010, 04:33 AM
that poor girl.... she will most like kill herself in a few years from now. Being forced to look at a man who violated her in the most person way imaginable is so cruel.... my heart goes out to her. I really hope she finds some peace in death.....
And unless you brainwashed her none of you have any right to say she is happy. No one would be.
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Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? -
11-20-2010, 04:43 AM
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that poor girl.... she will most like kill herself in a few years from now. Being forced to look at a man who violated her in the most person way imaginable is so cruel.... my heart goes out to her. I really hope she finds some peace in death.....
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If she kills herself she goes to Hell. She did the right thing according to the Bible.
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And unless you brainwashed her none of you have any right to say she is happy. No one would be.
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Do you know her? Have you met her? How do you know what her life is like.
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